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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby tigersupporter » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:03 pm

CENTURION wrote:WTF? I've just got home from THE CLUB and you guys are STILL going on about this! FFS! That was yesterday! He did the wrong thing, he is remorseful but he is also a man of his word & has GREAT CHARACTER & CONVICTION. At least he had the BALLS to say that he did it deliberately & FOR A REASON! Have you guys seen HIS face? Those boys cop a s***t-full DAY IN-DAY OUT & UNFORTUNATELY HE SNAPPED AT THE MOST INAPPROPRIATE TIME!
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby Blacky » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:09 pm

so it is ok for a north player to king hit someone from behind
but nobody is allowed to hit a north player
ok fair enough
wonder what mat simpson has to say about that
spent a night in hospital
t sims brags about it at propect
thats right this is a north adelaide thread
not allow brag north boys
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby bulldogproud » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:18 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Wedgie, can you clarify who you're saying the liar is?


bulldogproud wrote:The two incidents are related because North supporters are saying that they have never seen anything anywhere near as bad on the football field.

Lie

doggod wrote: And why did Gowans chase him down with a bleeding mouth?

Lie


As for my comment, Wedgie, it is not a lie. Read the comments your supporters have made on The Roost.
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby bulldogproud » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:21 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Kahuna wrote:
goraw wrote:gowans just apoligised for the incident on the news=he did the wrong thing.was a cheap shot and deserves a holiday for it.end of story.

And they also showed the footage of Schubert hitting Gowans in a remarkably similar looking incident to that which is the focus of discussion here.

Well if your assessment of Schubert's push in the back is correct he'll get games.
If he doesn't you're wrong and we have another liar on our hands.
Honestly mate, how could you call a push to Gowans which didn't even scratch James similar to a roundhouse left that required stitches above an eye? I hope you're joking. :roll:

PS This is the 3rd story we're hearing now. 1st it was payback for Howard accidentally stomping Chris, 2nd it was payaback for a cut chin before the incidnet, now its payback for a push in the back that was a "similar looking incident" to a round house left that required stitches above an eye. Wonder what the next version will be, the tooth fairy got in his way when he was visiting Santa Claus? Be more believable than most of the crap we've heard. :roll:


Wedgie, you have misquoted me here. What I said at the time was that I had seen no incident where Schubert had done anything to James or Chris so I posed the question of whether it was payback for Dean Howard's stomp. I knew it was unlikely but you never know.... I certainly did not say that it was. However, the ABC did say at the time of Howard's stomp that the action would likely draw a payback later in the game.
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby bulldogproud » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:23 pm

BJ Ernest wrote:Seriously how can u blokes even excuse what Gowans did.
Blatantly runs past his team mate makes a bee-line for schubert and whacks him. THeres nothing more to the story than that. They always niggle and push and hit off the play and for once someone gave them as much as he give and he didnt like it.
Surely Gowans should have just reminded schubert they were getting towelled up and that would have said more than a lame cheap shot off the play.
Defending the action is disgraceful, just let it go it was a disgrace and shouldnt go unpunished.


BJ, noone on this thread has defended what James did!
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby rod_rooster » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:24 pm

woodwt wrote:
bulldogproud wrote:
BPBRB wrote:
once_were_warriors wrote:The Howard incident was accidental NOTHING in that.


Agreed as did the rdio commentators on 5AA later say the same. The Gowans have to have some piss weak excuse to justify the cowardly action and if it was a square up even the Gowans are not dumb enoguh to king hit the wrong player so the piss weak excuses for the incident continue to have less credibility as the day goes on.


BP, I don't think that any Central supporter is excusing James for the action. They are just trying to explain that it was a retaliatory hit. It was stupid, reckless, unnecessary and James will pay a penalty for it. However, it was no worse than an action that Skipworth did during the Preliminary Final last year.



FFS hey we go with this skipwroth dribble again!! :evil: :evil:
Get over it!! he did nothing and everyone knew it even the tribunal!!
Unlike your mate James! :?


Karma caught up with Skipworth :)
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby BPBRB » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:27 pm

Blacky wrote:so it is ok for a north player to king hit someone from behind
but nobody is allowed to hit a north player
ok fair enough
wonder what mat simpson has to say about that
spent a night in hospital
t sims brags about it at propect
thats right this is a north adelaide thread
not allow brag north boys


Where does any North supporter say it was okay what he did!!! Regardless of the provocation used in that case from the first quarter and a bit, what he did was cowardly and he duly got 12 games. As for bragging about it, have you been at Prospect to hear him speak have you? Must have missed those appearances. It would have been comedy gold though because it involved West Adelaide and they are always a big joke and laugh!

P.S. It's Steven Sims - not t sims as you put it so go have another drink and recall the days of Kerley and Ray Hayes for starters if you want to bring up old thugs.
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby Hasbeen » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:29 pm

Hopefully a 10 week suspension will be enough to piss the 2 wankers back off to Victoria. I didn't think I could hate those two any more but the GF proved me wrong. He will probably get off with a reprimand as usual.
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby RustyCage » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:31 pm

bulldogproud wrote:
BJ Ernest wrote:Seriously how can u blokes even excuse what Gowans did.
Blatantly runs past his team mate makes a bee-line for schubert and whacks him. THeres nothing more to the story than that. They always niggle and push and hit off the play and for once someone gave them as much as he give and he didnt like it.
Surely Gowans should have just reminded schubert they were getting towelled up and that would have said more than a lame cheap shot off the play.
Defending the action is disgraceful, just let it go it was a disgrace and shouldnt go unpunished.


BJ, noone on this thread has defended what James did!


He kinda got defended by KG on 5AA after the game. he said he didn't condone what Gowans did, but said it was fair enough as it was a square up for what happened to him. He didn't elaborate though.
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby BPBRB » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:34 pm

bulldogproud wrote: Wedgie, you have misquoted me here. What I said at the time was that I had seen no incident where Schubert had done anything to James or Chris so I posed the question of whether it was payback for Dean Howard's stomp. I knew it was unlikely but you never know.... I certainly did not say that it was. However, the ABC did say at the time of Howard's stomp that the action would likely draw a payback later in the game.
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Payback for the early Howard incident. Firstly if either of the "two twins" thought that was a bad incident (described as a stomp - looked like an accident!) then they would have either:
(1) Got the "square up" at the time or
(2) Got Howard later. It was Schubert that was king hit and neither of them appear so dumb that they could have possibly have mixed the two players up!!!

Stop clutching at straws and get on with enjoying your SANFL dominance instead of making up piss weak excuses or borrowing the ABC theory in trying to defend a cowardly act or at least get a better excuse!!!
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby Hondo » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:34 pm

pafc1870 wrote:He kinda got defended by KG on 5AA after the game. he said he didn't condone what Gowans did, but said it was fair enough as it was a square up for what happened to him. He didn't elaborate though.


KG hadn't seen the TV footage of the incident at that point tho

I was listening at the same time as you by the sounds - KG was relying on callers ringing in who had seen the incident on the TV but was struggling to be convinced it was as bad as it was ....
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby Blacky » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:35 pm

comment HONDO 71...
1 1986, age 15, sat with family about 3 rows up from the Glenelg cheer squad :roll:
2 Darren Jarman's left foot goal from 50m on run on boundary 1st qu 1987 GF
3 S Sims incident 1991 GF
4 See (2)

sorrry i got the name wrong
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby rod_rooster » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:36 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
bulldogproud wrote:
BJ Ernest wrote:Seriously how can u blokes even excuse what Gowans did.
Blatantly runs past his team mate makes a bee-line for schubert and whacks him. THeres nothing more to the story than that. They always niggle and push and hit off the play and for once someone gave them as much as he give and he didnt like it.
Surely Gowans should have just reminded schubert they were getting towelled up and that would have said more than a lame cheap shot off the play.
Defending the action is disgraceful, just let it go it was a disgrace and shouldnt go unpunished.


BJ, noone on this thread has defended what James did!


He kinda got defended by KG on 5AA after the game. he said he didn't condone what Gowans did, but said it was fair enough as it was a square up for what happened to him. He didn't elaborate though.


KG's a moron. There, finally something we can all agree on :lol:
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby Hondo » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:36 pm

Blacky wrote:comment HONDO 71...
1 1986, age 15, sat with family about 3 rows up from the Glenelg cheer squad :roll:
2 Darren Jarman's left foot goal from 50m on run on boundary 1st qu 1987 GF
3 S Sims incident 1991 GF
4 See (2)

sorrry i got the name wrong


I said the same thing about the Sims incident earlier in this thread what's your point?
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby Blacky » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:45 pm

just repeating what you said
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby RustyCage » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:47 pm

hondo71 wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:He kinda got defended by KG on 5AA after the game. he said he didn't condone what Gowans did, but said it was fair enough as it was a square up for what happened to him. He didn't elaborate though.


KG hadn't seen the TV footage of the incident at that point tho

I was listening at the same time as you by the sounds - KG was relying on callers ringing in who had seen the incident on the TV but was struggling to be convinced it was as bad as it was ....


I think you're right Hondo.
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby Brucetiki » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:57 pm

rod_rooster wrote: KG's a moron. There, finally something we can all agree on :lol:


I'll agree with that comment
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby cennals05 » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:07 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
bulldogproud wrote:
BJ Ernest wrote:Seriously how can u blokes even excuse what Gowans did.
Blatantly runs past his team mate makes a bee-line for schubert and whacks him. THeres nothing more to the story than that. They always niggle and push and hit off the play and for once someone gave them as much as he give and he didnt like it.
Surely Gowans should have just reminded schubert they were getting towelled up and that would have said more than a lame cheap shot off the play.
Defending the action is disgraceful, just let it go it was a disgrace and shouldnt go unpunished.


BJ, noone on this thread has defended what James did!


He kinda got defended by KG on 5AA after the game. he said he didn't condone what Gowans did, but said it was fair enough as it was a square up for what happened to him. He didn't elaborate though.


That's what I heard too. If you were listening to the game on FIVEaa, you would not have known it was a king hit and you would definitely have been under the impression that it was a retaliation. From what I heard, I thought Gowans and Schubert were going toe to toe, with Schubert having thrown the first punch.

Then when they spoke to James after the game and asked him about it, he said it was a payback for being king hit himself.

I haven't seen the incident yet, I will have to wait until my parents send me over the dvd. However even if it was a retaliation it wasn't called for. However in the heat of the battle who knows how anyone would react. I'm pretty sure if Gowans could take it back he would.

EVERY team has had an incident like this, so it just feels like we are all throwing stones in our glass houses by calling Gowans all the names under the sun. Of course Centrals supporters are going to stick up for him but I don't think too many of us have condoned what he did. Similar to reading posts about 1991, when North supporters whilst not condoning Simm's actions said the incident was payback for all the cheap shots at Hart in the packs all day. It will always be this way, supporters sticking up for their own. Which is why arguing about it is useless. The two players involved in the incident know what happened and justice will be served at the tribunal.
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby Hazydog » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:09 pm

The actions of J Gowans were unnecessary & not be condoned. However those that teed off without waiting for the full story to unfold are now looking particularly foolish in light of the channel 7 footage on tonights news.

Apologies obviously will be appearing soon Hondo :oops: ?? Watch this space!
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Re: what if gowans retires & could legal action be taken ?

Postby Hondo » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:10 pm

Hazydog wrote:Apologies obviously will be appearing soon Hondo :oops: ?? Watch this space!


Why am I being singled out on this one - that's 2 posts now dumping me in it :?
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