AFL Reserves Discussion...

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Are you in favour of the proposal for the Crows Reserves to join the SANFL League competition?

Yes
35
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No
148
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Not fussed either way
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9%
 
Total votes : 201

Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby auto » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:50 am

CENTURION wrote:I don't want Port Maggies to go, I love the history, the floggings, the abuse, the good laughs with Harold, Wrighty & Donga. But most of all, I want the c***s to make a Grand Final against Us, so We can finally beat the bastards! ;) You can't lose that sort of stuff, just because of the greedy bloody AFL.


Apart from being 700 years old and carrying the nickname Yoda, hes a good bloke.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby CENTURION » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:59 am

auto wrote:
CENTURION wrote:I don't want Port Maggies to go, I love the history, the floggings, the abuse, the good laughs with Harold, Wrighty & Donga. But most of all, I want the c***s to make a Grand Final against Us, so We can finally beat the bastards! ;) You can't lose that sort of stuff, just because of the greedy bloody AFL.


Apart from being 700 years old and carrying the nickname Yoda, hes a good bloke.

must be all the cones ;)
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Wedgie » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:12 am

It is a shame the real Port will be the first thing to fall over at the expense of keeping the turquoise pretenders going a bit longer. A proud club going by the wayside because of a joke of a club will be a sad day.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby CENTURION » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:14 am

Wedgie wrote:It is a shame the real Port will be the first thing to fall over at the expense of keeping the turquoise pretenders going a bit longer. A proud club going by the wayside because of a joke of a club will be a sad day.

but they're One Club, remember?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Harry the Horse » Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:33 pm

Well, Keith Thomas thinks all Power listed players should play for the Magpies in the SANFL AND that the Magpies should retain all their zones as well! Champagne comedy ...

Oh, and they'll "honour" SANFL finals by playing full strength sides rather than resting players.

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2 ... ceo-june-4
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby CENTURION » Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:35 pm

Harry the Horse wrote:Well, Keith Thomas thinks all Power listed players should play for the Magpies in the SANFL AND that the Magpies should retain all their zones as well! Champagne comedy ...

Oh, and they'll "honour" SANFL finals by playing full strength sides rather than resting players.

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2 ... ceo-june-4

in reality, he wants 5 sides.
All power listed players CAN play for the Power, after all, they listed them.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Ronnie » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:08 pm

Harry the Horse wrote:Well, Keith Thomas thinks all Power listed players should play for the Magpies in the SANFL AND that the Magpies should retain all their zones as well! Champagne comedy ...

Oh, and they'll "honour" SANFL finals by playing full strength sides rather than resting players.

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2 ... ceo-june-4


I wouldn't mind a bigger house, no mortgage, private school fees paid off, no health concerns...

And why start "honouring" the SANFL finals now when you've had years to do so.

In reality still about AFL Reserves in the league comp. Not bad comedy from Keith.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby on the rails » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:34 pm

Keith Thomas has sold his "SANFL" soul now he has half his brain removed and indoctrinated into the selfish PAFC way!

His commentary on the AFL Reserves situation is both uneducated and selfish at the same time!

If, let's say by some miracle all the Power players were moved into the Magpies and played in our League Comp - how would a Salary Cap apply to them vs. how it applies to the stand alone SANFL Clubs? Even the AFL rookies earn more than the top SANFL players as general rule so the poor performing Magpies would all of a sudden get resources to be very strong with their existing SANFL only listed players without having to technically spend a cent under the present Salary Cap rules. This model would also encourage mature age recruit targets to look to going to the PAFC as in addtion to them being able to "buy" with more $$$, there is greater lure / opportunity re training resources etc. to give them a "spotlight" to be drafted vs. what say a Sturt FC could offer yet playing in the same comp. The more the PAFC have AFL listed players in a team competing in the SANFL League comp means more spare money to fill up the other spots with the types of players SANFL clubs target as recruits. The same scenario would apply to the Crows - stand alone or aligned.

How is any of what I raised not unfair???

Given this then the only option for SA re the Crows and Power Reserves side is the model put up by Rucci!
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Lynwood » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:54 pm

This is how they view recruitment zones "we also believe that the retention of its recruitment zone and junior structures are culturally significant to the Club, and provide a uniquely powerful connection to the community which must be retained." KT should mention that they are important to build players into SANFL league footballers for the Magpies. Shows we are only a marketing tool for them.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby CENTURION » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:58 pm

your underage sides are only there for the players to be groomed for the AFL, might as well get rid of the Maggies now :(
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:58 pm

Lynwood wrote:This is how they view recruitment zones "we also believe that the retention of its recruitment zone and junior structures are culturally significant to the Club, and provide a uniquely powerful connection to the community which must be retained." KT should mention that they are important to build players into SANFL league footballers for the Magpies. Shows we are only a marketing tool for them.


Marketing? :shock:

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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:08 pm

Ecky wrote:One issue with the AFL reserves in SANFL reserves comp idea that I haven't really seen discussed yet is

- say a Crows player gets delisted but still has a strong desire to play in the AFL. Would they be tempted to become a "top up" player for the Crows Reserves rather than play for a SANFL League team? There would need to be a very low salary cap enforced for these top up players, if there wasn't then you could see the Crows offering these types of players more than they would get at SANFL clubs, as it would also be in their best interests to have top up players who already know their game plan etc.

- similarly, would there be players at other SANFL clubs who would prefer to play a Reserves game against the Crows on Adelaide Oval instead of a League game at Noarlunga, in the belief that this would enhance their prospects of getting drafted?

- and would the AFL-centric media give more coverage to the Reserves or the League competition?

So putting these things together I think there could be a risk of an identity crisis as to which is the stronger and more prestigious competition unless it is managed very carefully.


I think the AFL clubs would even prefer to see a potential top up player playing in a top level state league side against quality opposition. Not sure dominating a reserves competition is going to carry much weight. Especially as the SANFL reserves comp would not be the 2nd best competition in the state, below the league.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby UK Fan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:34 pm

Booney wrote:
Lynwood wrote:This is how they view recruitment zones "we also believe that the retention of its recruitment zone and junior structures are culturally significant to the Club, and provide a uniquely powerful connection to the community which must be retained." KT should mention that they are important to build players into SANFL league footballers for the Magpies. Shows we are only a marketing tool for them.


Marketing? :shock:

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Which part of the maggies are a marketing tool for the power are u not comprehending mr boon
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby beenreal » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:37 pm

Lynwood wrote:This is how they view recruitment zones "we also believe that the retention of its recruitment zone and junior structures are culturally significant to the Club, and provide a uniquely powerful connection to the community which must be retained." KT should mention that they are important to build players into SANFL league footballers for the Magpies. Shows we are only a marketing tool for them.


Shows nothing of the sort. The club is the Magpies, the Magpies are the club. It's only hard to comprehend if you want it to be.

As for Keith Thomas being indoctrinated into the Port Adelaide way, GREAT!

Perhaps if clubs like North Adelaide had a similar mentality over the years, they might have been more successful.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:40 pm

UK Fan wrote:
Booney wrote:
Lynwood wrote:This is how they view recruitment zones "we also believe that the retention of its recruitment zone and junior structures are culturally significant to the Club, and provide a uniquely powerful connection to the community which must be retained." KT should mention that they are important to build players into SANFL league footballers for the Magpies. Shows we are only a marketing tool for them.

Marketing? :shock:
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Which part of the maggies are a marketing tool for the power are u not comprehending mr boon


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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:41 pm

beenreal wrote:
Lynwood wrote:This is how they view recruitment zones "we also believe that the retention of its recruitment zone and junior structures are culturally significant to the Club, and provide a uniquely powerful connection to the community which must be retained." KT should mention that they are important to build players into SANFL league footballers for the Magpies. Shows we are only a marketing tool for them.

Shows nothing of the sort. The club is the Magpies, the Magpies are the club. It's only hard to comprehend if you want it to be.
As for Keith Thomas being indoctrinated into the Port Adelaide way, GREAT!
Perhaps if clubs like North Adelaide had a similar mentality over the years, they might have been more successful.


Unlikely, but I guess anything would have been better than nothing.

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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby smac » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:42 pm

UK Fan wrote:
Booney wrote:
Lynwood wrote:This is how they view recruitment zones "we also believe that the retention of its recruitment zone and junior structures are culturally significant to the Club, and provide a uniquely powerful connection to the community which must be retained." KT should mention that they are important to build players into SANFL league footballers for the Magpies. Shows we are only a marketing tool for them.


Marketing? :shock:

Marketing is the process of communicating the value of a product or service to customers, for the purpose of selling the product or service. It is a critical business function for attracting customers.



Which part of the maggies are a marketing tool for the power are u not comprehending mr boon

I presumed the "attracting customers" part.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:45 pm

Two different (I hate using the term) products, for two different markets?

Been the long standing philosiphy of many regarding the Magpie / Power supporter base.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby UK Fan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:08 pm

Booney wrote:Two different (I hate using the term) products, for two different markets?

Been the long standing philosiphy of many regarding the Magpie / Power supporter base.


But One Team well for marketing purposes anyway.

Just as Lynwood described . :-)
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