Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Nobody should be in a cheer squad over the age of 21. Their supposed to be for kids to have some fun, organize events & liaison with the club. Older members just encourage alcohol use & profanity. A club official with a current police check should be helping out.

does that apply to the AFL also then sheik? most clubs have junior supporter groups which is totally different, most outlandish statement you have ever said Sheik.

Thats where I first actually took note of it some 5 years ago at Princess Park, 40yo's getting the kids to cart around banners & gear while the oldies were barking instructions like the Luftwaffe.

[LPH]

Hogan!!!!

Shultz!!!

Klink!!!

[spell_check]

The SCS are partly to blame as to where they set themselves near the WWTCS. Normally at Fortress Woodville Oval, Eagles CS is at the Northern end behind the goals and the othere CS is at the Southern end goals, why Sturt set themselves I don't know, why the players placed themselves where they did, I don't know. I think from now on all non Eagles CS should go to the Southern end so that these type of things don't happen.

Although the Eagles CS did move to the southern end before the start of the last quarter. I've got no idea what went on at that northern end until after the match (being down the other end all day), but they weren't there when the incidents in question happened.

[Dog_ger]

Enough Said.

Shut this thread down...!

SANFL doesn't need this.

No Competition needs this.

[locky801]

Enough Said.

Shut this thread down...!

SANFL doesn't need this.

No Competition needs this.

Agreed, enough is enough, think everyone has made their point

[Mickyj]

The SCS are partly to blame as to where they set themselves near the WWTCS. Normally at Fortress Woodville Oval, Eagles CS is at the Northern end behind the goals and the othere CS is at the Southern end goals, why Sturt set themselves I don't know, why the players placed themselves where they did, I don't know. I think from now on all non Eagles CS should go to the Southern end so that these type of things don't happen.

Although the Eagles CS did move to the southern end before the start of the last quarter. I've got no idea what went on at that northern end until after the match (being down the other end all day), but they weren't there when the incidents in question happened.

I was absorbed in watching the game from the Jarman stand.When my lad said "DAD there's a fight in the crowd".It was kind of like watching a scene from a cartoon .The crowd was just moving as one and fighting and moving .Surreal thing to watch.
Not what we need at the SANFL!!

[CUTTERMAN]

This is just trolling, can we shut this down until the SANFL have finished their look into the matter.

[on the rails]

LOL Sheik - not that the old cheer squads of the late 60's and 70's were great breeding grounds of morality and setting a social example. I agree with your comments about people over 21 and in Cheer Squads - at that age and in this day and age, they should be well and truly getting the rounds in with the Grog Squad!

[csbowes]

You want him kicked out? Fine. I think it still would be a bit harsh, but it wouldn't bother me because he embarrassed a lot of parties.

I'd dismiss him for the year as a minimum. It's harsh, but I'd be appalled at a Sturt player getting involved in a fight with fans, what does that say about the player and his respect for the reputation of the club?

Defending yourself when attacked is one thing, but you can't condone a player acting like a dumb ass fan and provoking or instigating this type of situation. Again, he's not the only one at fault, but unfortunately he holds a position whereby the repercussions for him are a lot more serious than they may turn out to be for those members of the public who were involved. I'm sure all clubs will be sitting down their players and reinforcing the "walk away" policy...

and the Sturt "supporters" ?

The same punishment as handed out to the Eagles supporters...

[csbowes]

I cannot disagree at all. If it was less than the rest of the year, I am sure you'd say that's not good enough. However, I'm also positive there will be differing opinions on what is a fair penalty.

It is a tough one as if there were only 3-4 weeks left of the season, then yeah I could see people saying "well that's hardly much of a penalty", but to be honest I'd probably still be happy with that.

Torrens are going to play finals, so kicking him out even with only 1 or 2 games to go still sends a message that regardless of his standing within the team, his actions were not good enough.

[csbowes]

Sure Treeby started it but seriously its the Sturt fans who started the violence, both hard parts to play but Id be going harder on the Sturt fans, they could have ignored the taunt, moved on or laughed it off but chose to get violent

Do we know for sure they were the first one's to physically "touch" someone else?

I'm not saying they didn't, I just don't know, I wasn't there.

I still maintain I'd go much harder on a player than the public. Simply because I have less expectations of the public and when it comes down to it, the league has ZERO appetite to enforce social norms at grounds.

[csbowes]

Hopefully security will be more pro-active in the future and "supporters", will realise it's a game at the end of the day.

No chance of either of those happening.

[bayman]

Seems like now Voice, this may actually give you an opportunity to get rid of the bad element from your CS. Hopefully, with the clubs assistance, it can help you in your attempts to improve the CS from now on.

Agreed.

A few years there were a pair of absolute w@nkers who attended Centrals game, a skinny bald young bloke and his bearded mate. Caused hassles at every game I saw them at; pushed a middle aged guy over at Prospect Oval for no reason whatsoever and had about 20 Centrals fans absolutely livid with them afterwards, and there were many, many other incidents.

My mate rang the club up the Monday after the Prospect game, gave them all the info they needed and I haven't seen them at a game since.

They aren't missed one bit.

the 'skinny bald young bloke' may now have a mop of hair & have added on some weight while the 'bearded mate' could have had a shave & therefore basically undetected & perhaps behaving themselves

[csbowes]

You want him kicked out? Fine. I think it still would be a bit harsh, but it wouldn't bother me because he embarrassed a lot of parties.

I'd dismiss him for the year as a minimum. It's harsh, but I'd be appalled at a Sturt player getting involved in a fight with fans, what does that say about the player and his respect for the reputation of the club?

Interested in your thoughts on what you think a coach striking a fan at presentations should receive as punishment then.

Assuming you're talking about a coach hitting a fan without being struck himself, I'd say he should be sacked.

[csbowes]

I reckon if anyone chases another person around in public trying whack them then they've got to expect that other members of the public might step in. If this Sturt supporter hadn't chased Treeby 50m with the sole intent of hitting him then this particular incident would not have occurred.

Geez you wouldn't want to be a cop chasing someone with areaman around?

50m? You measured it did you?

[eddie-eagle]

I was not near the incident, but was at the game.

I simply note that Stuart Totham is quoted on this publicly available article which is still active and linked below, saying in late 2008, less than 2 years ago, regarding the sturt cheer squad

“I think it’s disgraceful, not acceptable and frankly I’ve had a gutful of the behaviour of some members of the cheer squad".

http://east-torrens-messenger.whereiliv ... e-fallout/

That is all

[Mr Irate]

Bloody Hell, 12 pages.



Maybe next time Treeby could just light a flare........

[Mr Irate]

You want him kicked out? Fine. I think it still would be a bit harsh, but it wouldn't bother me because he embarrassed a lot of parties.

I'd dismiss him for the year as a minimum. It's harsh, but I'd be appalled at a Sturt player getting involved in a fight with fans, what does that say about the player and his respect for the reputation of the club?

Defending yourself when attacked is one thing, but you can't condone a player acting like a dumb ass fan and provoking or instigating this type of situation. Again, he's not the only one at fault, but unfortunately he holds a position whereby the repercussions for him are a lot more serious than they may turn out to be for those members of the public who were involved. I'm sure all clubs will be sitting down their players and reinforcing the "walk away" policy...

and the Sturt "supporters" ?

The same punishment as handed out to the Eagles supporters...

So, Treeby for a year, but no further view......go on, have a crack.........

[bayman]

seeing treeby has been named & shamed should all others involved be named & shamed as well ?

[Barto]

I reckon the first punch came from the vicinity of a grassy knoll.

Hrm.. his head IS going back and to the left... back and to the left...