ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

[Mickyj]

The amalgamated side (can't bring myself to mention their name) will continue to be a mudguard (all shiny on the outside and full of sh!t underneath)

Now Booney dont take offence mate

What a typical arrogant Port supporterX Runna is I hope my amalgamated side votes to kill you guys off .I bet every time we beat your team .Your one of those drongos that says they only won as they are a joined team enjoy 2010 you wont be around in 2011 !!!

Just think worse case for you guys Eagles and dogs share the magpies area

Arrogant comments are everywhere, but that one belongs on BigFooty only. Actually more like narrow-minded, which ironically those claims are put forward elsewhere on this thread about the actual topic itself. Nevertheless we look forward to Round 2.

Yep round 2 eagles v magpies at Fortress Woodville .Gods Eagle army will be out in force(because I'll be going on and on and on thanks for the wake up call Xrunna) .What a way to start the year an ailing Port and an Eagles team out to play attacking flamboyant footy .
I wonder how many Magpies fans will show up ?
I wonder how many will be wearing the Power colours instead of the magpies colours ?

Footy bring it on !!!!

[Macca19]

Even though Port did not want a side in the SANFL when the Power joined the AFL, the 8 other clubs forced the situation for their own benefit, I am sure the Maggies do want to stay around.

Its actually the other way around.

[Pseudo]

Even though Port did not want a side in the SANFL when the Power joined the AFL, the 8 other clubs forced the situation for their own benefit,

The above claims are demonstrable rubbish. Check out the sports pages in the local fishwrap circa February 1995. The 8 other SANFL clubs were all clamouring to kick Port out, rather than keep them in the comp. Port was meanwhile bending over backwards to demonstrate that a continuing Magpie presence would not be aligned with the AFL club. They even went so far as to suggest a merger between the Magpies and Port Districts to ensure their survival. Had Port genuinely wanted no SANFL presence, it had the perfect opportunity to kill the Magpies at this point in time.

[Pseudo]

Even though Port did not want a side in the SANFL when the Power joined the AFL, the 8 other clubs forced the situation for their own benefit, I am sure the Maggies do want to stay around.

Its actually the other way around.

Spot on the money Macca. Wish I'd read your post before I replied.

[Spideroncall]

Read in today’s paper Sunday Mail, that players in the SANFL aligned with other clubs will not play with the Magpies if the merger goes ahead BUT players recruited to the Power in the future would not be aligned with other SANFL clubs but would play with the Magpies. Basically in my words this would make the Magpies over time a reserves team for the Power and obviously be able to purchase some highly paid recruits as the majority of the Magpie players would be paid by the Power allowing more $ in their salary cap to be shared across fewer players. This merger must be voted against in fairness to the SANFL competition and the other 8 SANFL clubs.

[DOC]

I am not saying this to wind up Port supporters, just as a concerned SANFL lover who has NO interest in the GAYFL... for our comp to survive ( if we are committed to thrwing money at basket cases like South & even my own club) then the SANFL MUST make some tough decisions - one of which is to STOP BAILING OUT lost causes.

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The SANFL has never bailed South out.

No but Mike Ryan's Government did actually 'wipe' the $ 1/2 million for owed for Noarlunga

The SA Govt has not ever given South $5000,000 for Noarlunga oval or any other purpose. South lease the oval from Onkaparinga council and have a 99 year lease.

[Punk Rooster]

I am not saying this to wind up Port supporters, just as a concerned SANFL lover who has NO interest in the GAYFL... for our comp to survive ( if we are committed to thrwing money at basket cases like South & even my own club) then the SANFL MUST make some tough decisions - one of which is to STOP BAILING OUT lost causes.

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The SANFL has never bailed South out.

No but Mike Ryan's Government did actually 'wipe' the $ 1/2 million for owed for Noarlunga

The SA Govt has not ever given South $5000,000 for Noarlunga oval or any other purpose. South lease the oval from Onkaparinga council and have a 99 year lease.

albeit a peppercorn rental.
However, we digress..

[The Sleeping Giant]

What a way to start the year an ailing Port and an Eagles team out to play attacking flamboyant footy .

I always thought the only thing missing from the Eagles jumper was sequins and feather boas.............not that there is anything wrong that.

[The Apostle]

What a way to start the year an ailing Port and an Eagles team out to play attacking flamboyant footy.

I always thought the only thing missing from the Eagles jumper was sequins and feather boas.............not that there is anything wrong that.

[Macca19]

Read in today’s paper Sunday Mail, that players in the SANFL aligned with other clubs will not play with the Magpies if the merger goes ahead BUT players recruited to the Power in the future would not be aligned with other SANFL clubs but would play with the Magpies. Basically in my words this would make the Magpies over time a reserves team for the Power and obviously be able to purchase some highly paid recruits as the majority of the Magpie players would be paid by the Power allowing more $ in their salary cap to be shared across fewer players. This merger must be voted against in fairness to the SANFL competition and the other 8 SANFL clubs.

Whilst Port have always been happy to pick up talent from interstate, youd be hard pressed to fit half a team or more of AFL listed players in the one side.

Port had 19 interstate players on its list in 09. The most any played in the SANFL at the one time was 6 players, which happened in Round 16 (Banner, Carr, Farmer, Lobbe, Trengove and Laurie....a real 'whos who' of SANFL stardom there). Most weeks there were 3-4 playing at once, some weeks there were zero. To add to this, these players arent freebies, a match payment goes towards the salary cap...and with the import rule coming in, I think this is even more of a mute point.

[am Bays]

Read in today’s paper Sunday Mail, that players in the SANFL aligned with other clubs will not play with the Magpies if the merger goes ahead BUT players recruited to the Power in the future would not be aligned with other SANFL clubs but would play with the Magpies. Basically in my words this would make the Magpies over time a reserves team for the Power and obviously be able to purchase some highly paid recruits as the majority of the Magpie players would be paid by the Power allowing more $ in their salary cap to be shared across fewer players. This merger must be voted against in fairness to the SANFL competition and the other 8 SANFL clubs.

I think the claim was prefaced with the words "rumoured" or "thought to entail". Thats the problem very few details on what this proposal contains. However your quote is teh common belief on what is proposed.

[Barto]

Even though Port did not want a side in the SANFL when the Power joined the AFL, the 8 other clubs forced the situation for their own benefit, I am sure the Maggies do want to stay around.

Its actually the other way around.

Perhaps you need to let your brethren on BF know this. They seem convinced the SANFL clubs forced them to stay in the comp.

[UK Fan]

Don't see your point in blaming the Power for moving the Magpies from Alberton when everyone knows it was an SANFL stipulation.

With the announcement in 1995 of course Port and Jack had time to prepare, which is why John Cahill stepped down mid 1996, giving Stephen Williams the opportunity to win the GF against Cennnntraaals.

I'll concede errors were made. Trying to distance from the Port Adelaide of old and be a "Crows Lite" was a BIG mistake. But 20-20 hindsight is a beautiful thing. That has nothing to do with the Magpies losing income streams, sponsors, facilities, etc. which everyone seems to think happened overnight. It's been happening for 13 years and a lesser club probably wouldn't have survived this long.

BeenReal you and I know the SANFL in no way said you must kick Port Magpies out of Alberton. That must be the Power's AFL base from now on. The stipulation was they could not have the same base.

It was your club(Buccy Cunningham i believe) in its infinite wisdom that decided Port power's base was better at Alberton than At AAMI (where you play your home games). And Port Magpies needed to be booted out of their 100 plus year home and would be fine at Ethelton. WHilst the Power tries to take all the Magpies history/premierships with them into the AFL. A pretty dumb idea granted. But that was not the SANFL decision and to try and blame them is puss weak and makes you Power fans no better than any inknowledgable crows fan.

You choose this model. Not us.

One more thing Been Real. If your hero and former president of numerous seasons Matthew Richardson can sell out your club without giving a monkeys about anyone else but himself. WHy shouldnt the SANFL clubs do the same Been Real???

You (and others) need to check your facts and not just spout off baseless (inknowledgable?!) hyperbole. The PAFC was always going to remain at Alberton. If you want to believe the propaganda that the Power kicked out the Magpies then go right ahead. Hell even some misguided Magpie supporters believe it. It was in fact the Power that lead the charge to eventually get them back from Ethelton.

And Mathew Richardson joined the Power as head of special projects. And what do you know, one of those projects just happens to be overseeing the merger.

Even though Port did not want a side in the SANFL when the Power joined the AFL, the 8 other clubs forced the situation for their own benefit, I am sure the Maggies do want to stay around.

Its actually the other way around.

Thankyou!!! SO Been Real which is it ?? .

Do we let you die to undo our severe wrong doings early on according to you.

Or are you happy to live and be forever centrals biatches ??? Cos I can assure you Ill lose no sleep no matter what ???

And Booney if you think the comp will be cheapened cos the premier didnt beat Port your an idiot. Centrals have never beaten Port once do you honestly think we give two Buccy Cunninghams??? Guess what Sturt braggged about in 2002. Do you honestly think they cared it was not you.

Imbociles.?? Or atre you just upset that your position in the SANFL was easily taken over by the only true and great loyal club left in this comp CENTRALS.

[beenreal]

I stand by every fact I've stated, because that's exactly what they are, FACTS.

Port Adelaide did not want to keep a side in the SANFL but it was stipulated by the Controlling Body (SANFL)

The PAFC did not force the Magpies from Alberton, the other 8 clubs did.

Port Magpies financial woes are a direct result of not having effective access to its own revenue stream, or a generous benefactor such as Rob Gerard.

And finally, Port Adelaide did not cause the extinction of the Dinosaurs, nor is it responsible for Global Warming, or the assassination of JFK.

Anyone disputing the above needs to provide tangible evidence to the contrary.

[Macca19]

Port Adelaide did not want to keep a side in the SANFL but it was stipulated by the Controlling Body (SANFL)

This part is the other way around. Whilst originally Port did want to leave completely, and the 2nd licensee leaving to reduce the SANFL to an 8 club competition is what the SANFL wanted, Port as part of their tender convinced the SANFL and the other clubs that having a Port influence in the SANFL was the way to go. Their original tender involved joint membership and sponsorship opportunities as well as sharing similar admin and some facilities. After Port won the license, it was actually the other SANFL clubs that did not want Port to be a part of the SANFL anymore, but again Port convinced them otherwise, but the SANFL commision and the other club directors made sure there was zero link anywhere, which leads to:

The PAFC did not force the Magpies from Alberton, the other 8 clubs did.

Which is 100% correct. The other clubs made sure as part of Port staying in the SANFL, that they had to be Port, essentially, in name only.

Port Magpies financial woes are a direct result of not having effective access to its own revenue stream, or a generous benefactor such as Rob Gerard.

I also agree with this.

[Jimmy]

what port fans need to do is rally up and get behind their club....they havent had to do this before to this extent and their fans need to band as one ala north, sturt etc when those clubs were close to dying...port fans have had a nice ride but when the chips are down where are they? i think blacky can finally post 'FRONTRUNNERS' and have it actually mean something now. come on port fans, step up and save your club!

[beenreal]

what port fans need to do is rally up and get behind their club....they havent had to do this before to this extent and their fans need to band as one ala north, sturt etc when those clubs were close to dying...port fans have had a nice ride but when the chips are down where are they? i think blacky can finally post 'FRONTRUNNERS' and have it actually mean something now. come on port fans, step up and save your club!

Sorry but again you are talking in cliche's. Port supporters have a history of supporting their club when the chips are down, eg. the $2 campaign which is still going. Port Adelaide are also in the top 2 in Memberships and attendances, all in a year when they played like crap.

I write again, it is off-field revenue that is most important. Take South Adelaide for example. Hardly any members or supporters but a highly effective revenue stream from the function/ gaming centre, which they get to keep.

[Ronnie]

what port fans need to do is rally up and get behind their club....they havent had to do this before to this extent and their fans need to band as one ala north, sturt etc when those clubs were close to dying...port fans have had a nice ride but when the chips are down where are they? i think blacky can finally post 'FRONTRUNNERS' and have it actually mean something now. come on port fans, step up and save your club!

Sorry but again you are talking in cliche's. Port supporters have a history of supporting their club when the chips are down, eg. the $2 campaign which is still going. Port Adelaide are also in the top 2 in Memberships and attendances, all in a year when they played like crap.

I write again, it is off-field revenue that is most important. Take South Adelaide for example. Hardly any members or supporters but a highly effective revenue stream from the function/ gaming centre, which they get to keep.

Same issue as has faced Sturt and Norwood for example. Throw in North not all that long ago.
All have had difficulties restructuring their off field operations to increase revenue. Again, why Port so different?

[topsywaldron]

I stand by every fact I've stated, because that's exactly what they are, FACTS...Port Magpies financial woes are a direct result of not having effective access to its own revenue stream

And I'll ask again. Is the Prince of Wales solely owned by the PAMFC?

[beenreal]

As far as North Adelaide is concerned, I've already mentioned Rob Gerard but I'd like to understand how Norwood and Sturt turned things around.