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Re: robert shirley

Postby NO-MERCY » Thu May 21, 2009 11:37 pm

eaglehaslanded wrote:Having now seen the footage I don't believe robbie should have even had a case to answer to. All this is a hard tackle gone horribly wrong - it's clearly an accident and not rough or wreckless conduct. The Eagles have made the right decision in appealing all the SANFL now have to do is reverse the suspension - case closed. Thanks for all the hype and hysteria though bayman it's been enjoyable. Maybe you should personaly apologise to robbie shirley for dragging his good charachter through the mud.


You got to be kidding don't you?
This bloke deserves 5 weeks & its a joke the Crows have got involved & asked for an appeal,
No- way can this bloke get off if he does its a farce. :evil:
Reid is also a w-nker aswell as a hypocrite!
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Re: robert shirley

Postby Strawb » Fri May 22, 2009 12:07 am

I have just watched the incident and from the angle i saw it not too good for Robert Shirley. That is going by what i saw. I feel he was lucky to get 2 weeks he could have got more but didn't. If the crows play Robert and win they will lose far more than 4 points and it was very foolish to name him in their squad after seeing the vision that I saw. If we had the different angle might have been different. IMO he was reckless and shouldn't have dumped Ben like he did. The case is now closed he has two weeks off and lets get on with belting the WAFL.
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Re: robert shirley

Postby eaglehaslanded » Fri May 22, 2009 12:18 am

bayman wrote:
eaglehaslanded wrote:Having now seen the footage I don't believe robbie should have even had a case to answer to. All this is a hard tackle gone horribly wrong - it's clearly an accident and not rough or wreckless conduct. The Eagles have made the right decision in appealing all the SANFL now have to do is reverse the suspension - case closed. Thanks for all the hype and hysteria though bayman it's been enjoyable. Maybe you should personaly apologise to robbie shirley for dragging his good charachter through the mud.


maybe shirley should apologise to the fair minded football people & perhaps you should apologise to me for bringing my name through the mud


You started a rubbish tread mate with no other intent but to tarnish a decent man's name. Having seen the incident mate it wasn't worth half the hysteria you have caused.
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Re: robert shirley

Postby Dutchy » Fri May 22, 2009 12:25 am

eaglehaslanded wrote:
bayman wrote:
eaglehaslanded wrote:Having now seen the footage I don't believe robbie should have even had a case to answer to. All this is a hard tackle gone horribly wrong - it's clearly an accident and not rough or wreckless conduct. The Eagles have made the right decision in appealing all the SANFL now have to do is reverse the suspension - case closed. Thanks for all the hype and hysteria though bayman it's been enjoyable. Maybe you should personaly apologise to robbie shirley for dragging his good charachter through the mud.


maybe shirley should apologise to the fair minded football people & perhaps you should apologise to me for bringing my name through the mud


You started a rubbish tread mate with no other intent but to tarnish a decent man's name. Having seen the incident mate it wasn't worth half the hysteria you have caused.


So we cant call an incident how we see it? The SANFL tribunal, the appeals board and many other observers all agreed it was worth a suspension

"decent man" .....LMAO
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Re: robert shirley

Postby JK » Fri May 22, 2009 12:28 am

eaglehaslanded wrote:
bayman wrote:
eaglehaslanded wrote:Having now seen the footage I don't believe robbie should have even had a case to answer to. All this is a hard tackle gone horribly wrong - it's clearly an accident and not rough or wreckless conduct. The Eagles have made the right decision in appealing all the SANFL now have to do is reverse the suspension - case closed. Thanks for all the hype and hysteria though bayman it's been enjoyable. Maybe you should personaly apologise to robbie shirley for dragging his good charachter through the mud.


maybe shirley should apologise to the fair minded football people & perhaps you should apologise to me for bringing my name through the mud


You started a rubbish tread mate with no other intent but to tarnish a decent man's name. Having seen the incident mate it wasn't worth half the hysteria you have caused.


I've met Rob Shirley a few times and he is undoubtedly an exceptional bloke .. But to be fair, the incident itself and how it's been played out thereafter among various bodies, has been most worthy of discussion, 10 pages probably attests to that .. Most people will always blindly defend their own, try it without the "blindly" perhaps?
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Re: robert shirley

Postby NO-MERCY » Fri May 22, 2009 12:34 am

He's lucky he didn't get what he deserved & thats 5-6wks, take your 2 weeks & shut up.
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Re: robert shirley

Postby Dirko » Fri May 22, 2009 12:38 am

NO-MERCY wrote:He's lucky he didn't get what he deserved & thats 5-6wks, take your 2 weeks & shut up.


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Re: robert shirley

Postby eaglehaslanded » Fri May 22, 2009 12:38 am

Constance_Perm wrote:
eaglehaslanded wrote:
bayman wrote:
eaglehaslanded wrote:Having now seen the footage I don't believe robbie should have even had a case to answer to. All this is a hard tackle gone horribly wrong - it's clearly an accident and not rough or wreckless conduct. The Eagles have made the right decision in appealing all the SANFL now have to do is reverse the suspension - case closed. Thanks for all the hype and hysteria though bayman it's been enjoyable. Maybe you should personaly apologise to robbie shirley for dragging his good charachter through the mud.


maybe shirley should apologise to the fair minded football people & perhaps you should apologise to me for bringing my name through the mud


You started a rubbish tread mate with no other intent but to tarnish a decent man's name. Having seen the incident mate it wasn't worth half the hysteria you have caused.


I've met Rob Shirley a few times and he is undoubtedly an exceptional bloke .. But to be fair, the incident itself and how it's been played out thereafter among various bodies, has been most worthy of discussion, 10 pages probably attests to that .. Most people will always blindly defend their own, try it without the "blindly" perhaps?


I call it the way I see it constance - I've viewed the incident. It's definately not a spear tackle. It was a bloke playing good hard footy mate with an unfortunate outcome. I don't believe for one second that robbie's intention was to drive the poor kids head into the turf. Maybe we should be paying more attention to the westies bloke that layed out Nathan Daniel (now that was intentional and wreckless)
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Re: robert shirley

Postby purch » Fri May 22, 2009 12:48 am

eaglehaslanded wrote: Maybe we should be paying more attention to the westies bloke that layed out Nathan Daniel (now that was intentional and wreckless)


Maybe we should be paying more attention to the bloke with numbness in his neck. Let's hope for a speedy recovery. Any reports on how he's going?
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Re: robert shirley

Postby JK » Fri May 22, 2009 12:57 am

eaglehaslanded wrote:I call it the way I see it constance - I've viewed the incident. It's definately not a spear tackle. It was a bloke playing good hard footy mate with an unfortunate outcome. I don't believe for one second that robbie's intention was to drive the poor kids head into the turf. Maybe we should be paying more attention to the westies bloke that layed out Nathan Daniel (now that was intentional and wreckless)


Fair enough mate, although it sounds as though you're hedging your bets there .. Good hard footy has gone past tackles like that IMHO .. Personally I reckon you're protecting one of your own without any respect to reason, but hey, that's what tribalism is about I guess ...
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Re: robert shirley

Postby NO-MERCY » Fri May 22, 2009 1:02 am

eaglehaslanded wrote:I call it the way I see it constance - I've viewed the incident. It's definately not a spear tackle. It was a bloke playing good hard footy mate with an unfortunate outcome. I don't believe for one second that robbie's intention was to drive the poor kids head into the turf. Maybe we should be paying more attention to the westies bloke that layed out Nathan Daniel (now that was intentional and wreckless)


Oh shut up please, your over the top & a typical Eagles supporter. The spear tackle deserved 5-6 weeks, appreciate the 2 weeks that you got.
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Re: robert shirley

Postby RustyCage » Fri May 22, 2009 2:12 am

SJABC wrote:Had to laugh when I heard what Reid said to Cornes/Rowe re the appeal. No wonder so many Crows people are glad he's going. He's a f****** hypocrite....


What did Reid say?
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Re: robert shirley

Postby Jimmy » Fri May 22, 2009 9:59 am

RoosterMarty wrote:
Jimmy wrote:is there youtube footage of this tackle?


It is towards the end of this report:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UJ0VJ-ya2M


after seeing it, it didnt look like a 'typical spear' tackle, but certainly reckless and dangerous and deserves a 2-3 week ban.

There was no need to pick the bloke up and drop him on his head and I can understand the hysteria about it as we dont want to see players doing that anyway, regardless of fear of penalty, its just not right.
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Re: robert shirley

Postby mal » Fri May 22, 2009 10:37 am

eaglehaslanded wrote:
bayman wrote:
eaglehaslanded wrote:Having now seen the footage I don't believe robbie should have even had a case to answer to. All this is a hard tackle gone horribly wrong - it's clearly an accident and not rough or wreckless conduct. The Eagles have made the right decision in appealing all the SANFL now have to do is reverse the suspension - case closed. Thanks for all the hype and hysteria though bayman it's been enjoyable. Maybe you should personaly apologise to robbie shirley for dragging his good charachter through the mud.


maybe shirley should apologise to the fair minded football people & perhaps you should apologise to me for bringing my name through the mud


You started a rubbish tread mate with no other intent but to tarnish a decent man's name. Having seen the incident mate it wasn't worth half the hysteria you have caused.


WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
BAYMAN did not do this thread to tarnish Robbie Shirley
I was sitting next to Bayman watching this game
2 nuetral supporters who love watching SANFL footy
That tackle was in front of us
It appeared crude , Bayman, myself, and large sections of the crowd voiced our disapproval
To suggest we singled out Robbie is proposterous.
BAYMAN posted this on behalf of fair minded football supporters

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IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANY OF THE 42 PLAYERS IN THIS GAME DOING THIS SAME TACKLE
AND BAYMAN WOULD HAVE POSTED THE SAME THREAD
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HYPE maybe
SHIRLEY bashing an emphatic NO

PS
BAYMAN is a crows follower, the same team Robbie Shirley plays for
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Re: robert shirley

Postby Wedgie » Fri May 22, 2009 10:44 am

No offence mal, you and bayman may have been neutral supporters at the game but despite both being great blokes you two are the biggest drama queens I've ever come across and I've learnt to take what either of you say with a grain of salt despite how neutral you may be.
Keep up the good work though as you're both an entertaining read more times than not. ;)
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Re: robert shirley

Postby Dirko » Fri May 22, 2009 10:50 am

pafc1870 wrote:What did Reid say?


In a nutshell, Rowey asked whether they were funding the appeal. Reid said no, then a minute later was on about how Shirley was a Crows player and how they were assisting WWT with the appeal by getting evidence and helping them out with it. Reid also said that he thought Shirley should get off. Rowey backed off, but Cornesy fired up and told Reidy that it's an SANFL manner and the Crows should butt out. Reidy mumbled around and was hardly conclusive in his argument.

Just came across as a hypocrite, and he seemed to contradict himself on several occasions. Sounds like a Bullying tactic by the Crows. Glad the SANFL stood by it's ruling.
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Re: robert shirley

Postby Wedgie » Fri May 22, 2009 10:58 am

SJABC wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:What did Reid say?


In a nutshell, Rowey asked whether they were funding the appeal. Reid said no, then a minute later was on about how Shirley was a Crows player and how they were assisting WWT with the appeal by getting evidence and helping them out with it. Reid also said that he thought Shirley should get off. Rowey backed off, but Cornesy fired up and told Reidy that it's an SANFL manner and the Crows should butt out. Reidy mumbled around and was hardly conclusive in his argument.

Just came across as a hypocrite, and he seemed to contradict himself on several occasions. Sounds like a Bullying tactic by the Crows. Glad the SANFL stood by it's ruling.

I disagree.
Shirley is employed by the Crows, not the Eagles.
As his employer of course they're going to take an interest especially when it may impact on them.
It'd be no different if he'd got in a drunken fist fight at night time, the Crows of course would be taking an interst in matters that impact on them and their employee. Common sense I would have thought?
The Crows or John Reid wouldn't be doing their job if they listened to that moron Cornes.
(And I'm no Crows fan as most will attest to)
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Re: robert shirley

Postby Dirko » Fri May 22, 2009 11:01 am

If he came out and was conclusive and was on the front foot, saying they were doing it then no worries. Just the way he was talking came across as if they were going the backdoor* , and trying to influence the SANFL with undue pressure.
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Re: robert shirley

Postby Wedgie » Fri May 22, 2009 11:21 am

SJABC wrote:If he came out and was conclusive and was on the front foot, saying they were doing it then no worries. Just the way he was talking came across as if they were going the backdoor* , and trying to influence the SANFL with undue pressure.



'Reid said how Shirley was a Crows player and how they were assisting WWT with the appeal by getting evidence and helping them out with it.'

Stating that on a high rating radio program doesn't sound backdoor to me.
The only thing that sounds backdoor is Cornes' stupid comment.
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Re: robert shirley

Postby whufc » Fri May 22, 2009 11:26 am

Wedgie wrote:
SJABC wrote:If he came out and was conclusive and was on the front foot, saying they were doing it then no worries. Just the way he was talking came across as if they were going the backdoor* , and trying to influence the SANFL with undue pressure.



'Reid said how Shirley was a Crows player and how they were assisting WWT with the appeal by getting evidence and helping them out with it.'

Stating that on a high rating radio program doesn't sound backdoor to me.
The only thing that sounds backdoor is Cornes' stupid comment.


my only issue with the crows assisting with footage is that would the footage have become available if it was a non-crows player who laid the tackle. I doubt this very much.
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