Port Adelaide Future

[Wedgie]

Of course it wasn't Port who came up with the idea of leaving a club in the SANFL as that was one of the few (maybe only) smart thing done at the time. At least it makes their amalgamation back to being 1 club in the SANFL only a lot easier down the track even if it will require a shit load of charity from others still. If it wasn't for that condition Port supporters would have absolutely nothing left by 2020.

[beenreal]

Of course it wasn't Port who came up with the idea of leaving a club in the SANFL as that was one of the few (maybe only) smart thing done at the time. At least it makes their amalgamation back to being 1 club in the SANFL only a lot easier down the track even if it will require a shit load of charity from others still. If it wasn't for that condition Port supporters would have absolutely nothing left by 2020.

Forget about making more of your sanctimonious predictions about the future of the PAFC Wedgie. With your kind of foresight you should be concentrating on making your fortune on the Stockmarket... or winning the Lottery?

[Dutchy]

I still remember Fos Williams facing the media scrum outside of Alberton Oval when Port Adelaides first bid for the AFL was announced. Fos emphatically stated that they did not plan to retain a side in the SANFL and that Port Adelaide would move fully across as a club to the AFL. Its my understanding that this was the will and desire of those involved and those supporting the bid at the time. I suspect that the PAFC may revisit this position to address the current loss making situation and are posturing towards it at present in the way that they are feeding information out to the media.

At the risk of winding UK Fan up into another 500 post tirade....this was an SANFL requirement ( keeping the Magpies ).

*bangs head against wall*
It was an SANFL requirement that the PAFC agreed too and signed off on!
Dont blame the SANFL, if Port started looking at ways to improve themselves and not blame others they may have a chance of correcting their position. If they continue to play the blame game they are dead in the water.

*Rolls eyes*

Due to our actions of the time, what were our choices?

I'm not playing the blame game FFS...

Negotiate? Find other conditions? Don't enter the AFL?

[Wedgie]

Of course it wasn't Port who came up with the idea of leaving a club in the SANFL as that was one of the few (maybe only) smart thing done at the time. At least it makes their amalgamation back to being 1 club in the SANFL only a lot easier down the track even if it will require a shit load of charity from others still. If it wasn't for that condition Port supporters would have absolutely nothing left by 2020.

Forget about making more of your sanctimonious predictions about the future of the PAFC Wedgie. With your kind of foresight you should be concentrating on making your fortune on the Stockmarket... or winning the Lottery?

Unfortunately a bit of common sense and at least half a brain wont get you far with the lottery.
Not sure about the stock market but never taken an interest.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Just don't let Port anywhere near the stock market. Ffs.

[SDK]

Does not take any foresight to predict Port Power's future it is an absolute certainty not speculation.
$2mill loss this year $2mill budgeted loss next year = $3 mill.
2014 instant success and $6 mill profit !!!!!!!!!!!!! I think not.

Just stop propping them up at all clubs expense is all I ask.

[UK Fan]

Of course it wasn't Port who came up with the idea of leaving a club in the SANFL as that was one of the few (maybe only) smart thing done at the time. At least it makes their amalgamation back to being 1 club in the SANFL only a lot easier down the track even if it will require a shit load of charity from others still. If it wasn't for that condition Port supporters would have absolutely nothing left by 2020.

Forget about making more of your sanctimonious predictions about the future of the PAFC Wedgie. With your kind of foresight you should be concentrating on making your fortune on the Stockmarket... or winning the Lottery?

Wedgies continued accuracy with his pafc predictions continues to exceed expectations wouldn't you say Beeny??

[FOURTH ESTATE]

When the next TV deal comes up and the AFL own the Power licence and not the SANFL and they are still a basket case off to Tasmania or NT they will go!!

Andy D will will make it happen as they won't prop them up!!!

[Barto]

Port DID want to keep a side in the SANFL. The original tendering process for the second licence was supposed to include how the bid would result in an 8 team SANFL competition, Port's proposal didn't address this but was accepted anyway.

What the SANFL did demand was that the two clubs were completely separate both legally and financially because of the fears that the Magpies being attached to an AFL side would be an unstoppable juggernaut that couldn't be matched by clubs with only a SANFL link. As we've seen, that fear was unfounded.

[Spargo]

What the SANFL did demand was that the two clubs were completely separate both legally and financially because of the fears that the Magpies being attached to an AFL side would be an unstoppable juggernaut that couldn't be matched by clubs with only a SANFL link. As we've seen, that fear was unfounded.

It is now - it may have been different in '97.

[Dog_ger]

The SANFL/AFL/PORT POWER really stuffed this "Once Mighty Club."

In hind sight, if we could only have the opportunity again to start over.

So many greedy mistakes were made...

Why did they want all their SANFL Premierships to count in AFL....

If they only had started afresh....

We Are The Power From SA.

Possibly home ground at Norwood.

Footy in this "Great State" could have been a little better.

Alberton didn't want to know the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club at one stage.

Shame.

Wasn't their home at Ethelton..? Thanks to Ethelton.

Get a shovel out and dig up Jack guys, to coach the Port Magpies.

I don't see a future in SANFL - PAFC.

[Macca19]

I still remember Fos Williams facing the media scrum outside of Alberton Oval when Port Adelaides first bid for the AFL was announced. Fos emphatically stated that they did not plan to retain a side in the SANFL and that Port Adelaide would move fully across as a club to the AFL. Its my understanding that this was the will and desire of those involved and those supporting the bid at the time. I suspect that the PAFC may revisit this position to address the current loss making situation and are posturing towards it at present in the way that they are feeding information out to the media.

At the risk of winding UK Fan up into another 500 post tirade....this was an SANFL requirement ( keeping the Magpies ).

*bangs head against wall*

It was an SANFL requirement that the PAFC agreed too and signed off on!

Dont blame the SANFL, if Port started looking at ways to improve themselves and not blame others they may have a chance of correcting their position. If they continue to play the blame game they are dead in the water.

Well it wasnt. Port wanted to retain a side in the SANFL. The SANFL and its clubs wanting the Magpies out of the competition. In the end they agreed for Port to stay in the SANFL but with very stringent operating rules.

Port moving away from teh SANFL may have been the case in 1990, but it wasnt the case in 1994.

[on the rails]

Well it wasnt. Port wanted to retain a side in the SANFL. The SANFL and its clubs wanting the Magpies out of the competition. In the end they agreed for Port to stay in the SANFL but with very stringent operating rules.

Port moving away from teh SANFL may have been the case in 1990, but it wasnt the case in 1994.

The other clubs voted not to have the Magpies in the comp but the Commission at the time over rode that decision and kept them in. That decision also forced a change in the voting constitution so that the decision of the League Directors (the Clubs) cannot be over ridden in most circumstances otherwise there is no point in having League Directors voting on anything.

[am Bays]

Well it wasnt. Port wanted to retain a side in the SANFL. The SANFL and its clubs wanting the Magpies out of the competition. In the end they agreed for Port to stay in the SANFL but with very stringent operating rules.

Port moving away from teh SANFL may have been the case in 1990, but it wasnt the case in 1994.

So it wasn't the SANFL making the Magpies stay in 1994??? A bit different to this jerker's assertions:

Well blame the SANFL Commission for that one too. They're ones that demanded the PAFC field an SANFL side but then shafted them off to Ethelton.

http://www.safooty.net/forum/posting.php?mode=quote&f=1&p=1591633

One club, two different stories...

[Sojourner]

Gloating over Port's financial situation may give some SANFL followers a thrill, its not quite so funny when you realize that when Port are losing money so is the SANFL - if Port were making money so would the SANFL and revenue would be going back to the SANFL clubs.

I'm led to believe that only three SANFL clubs are currently running at a profit. I am further led to believe that two potentially three SANFL clubs are facing some pretty grim financial problems that have no actual solution in sight. If Port were making money then so would they be.

So what if Port agreed to keep a side in the SANFL when they signed a contract to enter the AFL? No doubt any other side or cartel or merged entity that was chosen would have done the same thing. The fact is that its not working and its the SANFL and some of the SANFL clubs that are now getting their ar$e served up to them on a plate in terms of debt and interest to be paid on that debt.

Like it or not Port can not sustain the additional costs of running the Magpies in the SANFL, either can the rest of the SANFL under that model. All well and good to try and ignore it, yet Port will not fall over under the current model as they are guaranteed survival by the AFL for the TV rights. No such arrangement exists for your SANFL club and rest assured its far more likely that one of the 7 SANFL clubs will fall over well before the Power does, if nothing is done about it.

[Apachebulldog]

As i have said before the Maggies should of been folded up back in 1996 the majority of supporters back then wanted to join the AFL as they had outgrown the SANFL and wanted to chase glory and kudos in a stronger competition so really all you bleaters cannot blame anyone else for the current predicamnet the club is in the blame rests SOLELY on the shoulders of the PAFC end of story.

[beenreal]

Well it wasnt. Port wanted to retain a side in the SANFL. The SANFL and its clubs wanting the Magpies out of the competition. In the end they agreed for Port to stay in the SANFL but with very stringent operating rules.

Port moving away from teh SANFL may have been the case in 1990, but it wasnt the case in 1994.

So it wasn't the SANFL making the Magpies stay in 1994??? A bit different to this jerker's assertions:

Well blame the SANFL Commission for that one too. They're ones that demanded the PAFC field an SANFL side but then shafted them off to Ethelton.

http://www.safooty.net/forum/posting.php?mode=quote&f=1&p=1591633

One club, two different stories...

Some of you only remember what you want to remember.

It was a condition of the second License that the successful club/cartel field a side in the SANFL, which Port Adelaide complied with.

Upon getting the nod there was movement from other clubs to expell the Magpies from the competition, which Brian Cunningham staunchly and publicly defended against.

Part of the ensuing compromise was shunting the Magpies off to Ethelton to spend the majority of their dividend from the asset split on creating a new training base.

[Barto]

Well it wasnt. Port wanted to retain a side in the SANFL. The SANFL and its clubs wanting the Magpies out of the competition. In the end they agreed for Port to stay in the SANFL but with very stringent operating rules.

Port moving away from teh SANFL may have been the case in 1990, but it wasnt the case in 1994.

So it wasn't the SANFL making the Magpies stay in 1994??? A bit different to this jerker's assertions:

Well blame the SANFL Commission for that one too. They're ones that demanded the PAFC field an SANFL side but then shafted them off to Ethelton.

http://www.safooty.net/forum/posting.php?mode=quote&f=1&p=1591633

One club, two different stories...

I'd back Macca's version. One of the few knowledgeable Port supporters around.

[Pseudo]

Well it wasnt. Port wanted to retain a side in the SANFL. The SANFL and its clubs wanting the Magpies out of the competition. In the end they agreed for Port to stay in the SANFL but with very stringent operating rules.

Port moving away from teh SANFL may have been the case in 1990, but it wasnt the case in 1994.

So it wasn't the SANFL making the Magpies stay in 1994??? A bit different to this jerker's assertions:

Well blame the SANFL Commission for that one too. They're ones that demanded the PAFC field an SANFL side but then shafted them off to Ethelton.

http://www.safooty.net/forum/posting.php?mode=quote&f=1&p=1591633

One club, two different stories...

I'd back Macca's version. One of the few knowledgeable Port supporters around.

Seconded. Both sentences.

[Gravel]

To help clarify-
Extracts from November, 2002 ‘Fact sheet' from club president Greg Boulton and chief executive Brian Cunningham.
3. Tender for second AFL licence
- The proposal of the tenderer had to include how the SANFL competition would be reduced to 8 teams.

The Port Adelaide Football Club lodged its tender document on 14 September 1994 and addressed the below issues that impacted on the SANFL competition and the Magpies.
- The tender document strongly supported the continuation of the Magpies in the SANFL competition..
- The PAFC tender document did not support nor agree to the pre-condition of a merger to create 8 SANFL teams was fundamental to the granting of the licence.