How To Fix The Foxtel Cup

[redandblack]

These games aren't too hard on the players.

The quarters are only just over 20 minutes and there are 4 interchange players, I think.

[Big Phil]

These games aren't too hard on the players.

The quarters are only just over 20 minutes and there are 4 interchange players, I think.

Was hard on Adam Hartlett when he got injured. I guess the risk of getting injured is something the particpating players take the risk with.

[redandblack]

There were very few injuries due to the Foxtel Cup.

I think Nat Caruso dislocating his ankle the week after a Foxtel Cup game, against North, was far worse.

[ElizabethVCRThief]

There were very few injuries due to the Foxtel Cup.

I think Nat Caruso dislocating his ankle the week after a Foxtel Cup game, against North, was far worse.

Agreed, West should withdraw form the SANFL so they can focus all efforts on the Foxtel cup.

[Wedgie]

There were very few injuries due to the Foxtel Cup.

I think Nat Caruso dislocating his ankle the week after a Foxtel Cup game, against North, was far worse.

Agreed, West should withdraw form the SANFL so they can focus all efforts on the Foxtel cup.

Makes sense since the prize money is better in the Foxtel Cup than the SANFL and prize money seems to be such an issue with some.

[Jim05]

If the AFL want it to succeed why dont they offer a better incentive?
How about the 2 grand finalists gain entry into the NAB cup, would give the teams plenty of national exposure and would be more competitive than GWS

[Magpies96]

If the AFL want it to succeed why dont they offer a better incentive?
How about the 2 grand finalists gain entry into the NAB cup, would give the teams plenty of national exposure and would be more competitive than GWS

How about some SANFL Clubs pull their head in and do what's best for the SANFL and not what they think is best for them.

SANFL clubs complain about the AFL, how they don't do enough to promote and grow the SANFL and when they do do something with national exposure and added prize money some SANFL turn their noses up.

Surely it is the duty of everyone to promote Australian Football, not just left to the AFL.

[once_were_warriors]

Some clubs see benefits , some don't.

Personally I'm not too interested in it (other than a good excuse for a football trip), wouldn't lose sleep if it disappeared and would not celebrate winning it any greater than a minor round game.

The premiership is where it is, by a country mile.

Good luck to those SANFL clubs that compete.

[Big Phil]

Some clubs see benefits , some don't.

Personally I'm not too interested in it (other than a good excuse for a football trip), wouldn't lose sleep if it disappeared and would not celebrate winning it any greater than a minor round game.

The premiership is where it is, by a country mile

Good luck to those SANFL clubs that compete.

Here here

[Wedgie]

Oh great. The big red writing is back.
Does an obvious comment that noone has ever disagreed with really require this treatment?

[Booney]

If the AFL want it to succeed why dont they offer a better incentive?
How about the 2 grand finalists gain entry into the NAB cup, would give the teams plenty of national exposure and would be more competitive than GWS

How about some SANFL Clubs pull their head in and do what's best for the SANFL and not what they think is best for them.

SANFL clubs complain about the AFL, how they don't do enough to promote and grow the SANFL and when they do do something with national exposure and added prize money some SANFL turn their noses up.
Surely it is the duty of everyone to promote Australian Football, not just left to the AFL.

Excellent point.

[JK]

If the AFL want it to succeed why dont they offer a better incentive?
How about the 2 grand finalists gain entry into the NAB cup, would give the teams plenty of national exposure and would be more competitive than GWS

How about some SANFL Clubs pull their head in and do what's best for the SANFL and not what they think is best for them.

SANFL clubs complain about the AFL, how they don't do enough to promote and grow the SANFL and when they do do something with national exposure and added prize money some SANFL turn their noses up.
Surely it is the duty of everyone to promote Australian Football, not just left to the AFL.

Excellent point.

Which clubs?

[CUTTERMAN]

If the AFL want it to succeed why dont they offer a better incentive?
How about the 2 grand finalists gain entry into the NAB cup, would give the teams plenty of national exposure and would be more competitive than GWS

How about some SANFL Clubs pull their head in and do what's best for the SANFL and not what they think is best for them.

SANFL clubs complain about the AFL, how they don't do enough to promote and grow the SANFL and when they do do something with national exposure and added prize money some SANFL turn their noses up.

Surely it is the duty of everyone to promote Australian Football, not just left to the AFL.

Straight from the book of Denial

[Wedgie]

If the AFL want it to succeed why dont they offer a better incentive?
How about the 2 grand finalists gain entry into the NAB cup, would give the teams plenty of national exposure and would be more competitive than GWS

How about some SANFL Clubs pull their head in and do what's best for the SANFL and not what they think is best for them.

SANFL clubs complain about the AFL, how they don't do enough to promote and grow the SANFL and when they do do something with national exposure and added prize money some SANFL turn their noses up.
Surely it is the duty of everyone to promote Australian Football, not just left to the AFL.

Excellent point.

Agreed. IMHO some clubs are nothing but leeches when it comes to the big picture.

[Pseudo]

Oh great. The big red writing is back.
Does an obvious comment that noone has ever disagreed with really require this treatment?

YES

[HOORAY PUNT]

Oh great. The big red writing is back.
Does an obvious comment that noone has ever disagreed with really require this treatment?

Comes in black too.

[FlyingHigh]

How about putting up the prize money.

I think they did.

How to fix the Foxtel Cup? Don't have SANFL Clubs, the only ones in the country boycott it because they would rather focus all their footballing efforts on winning the SANFL Premiership.

Edited for accuracy.

Didn't bother Claremont, won the WAFL.

Didn't bother Williamstown, 2nd to the unbeaten Port Melbourne.

Claremont didn't play the second best team in the WAFL this year, which was West Perth. They played Subi, who won their last 7 minor round games to just scrape into the finals. Would have been similar to a Centrals/South GF.

Not sure whether this has been mentioned, but how about the Foxtel Cup becoming a league v league competition, so we may play 2 state games plus potentially a final each year? Might give more meaning to the state games, plus present a higher standard of footy on Foxtel. It could be split into two div's, WAFL, SANFL, VFL and TFL, NEAFL, QAFL the other, with a promotion relegation on one team each year. This would finally give a definitive answer as to the best state league.
The implications for the program would be the major downside, with potentially three weeks without footy, but as M96 said, perhaps we need to put footy ahead of our own interests.

[Hondo]

Yes, it is excrutiating to keep hearing "the premiership is where it is at" over and over like it is some sort of previously unheard of new discovery or something that anyone disagrees with.

On the topic, given the other state league teams don't have the same issues with the Foxtel Cup that our clubs seem to have I'd argue that the premise of this whole thread is presumptious and possibly flawed because of it. You fix something that is broken. The Foxtel Cup may not be perfect in terms of prize money (what is perfect though?) but for us here in Adelaide to start claiming the concept is broken just because some of our teams won't participate could be deflecting where the actual problem really is.

If our best clubs won't compete then I agree that something is wrong somewhere. I am not saying the problem lies solely with some of our SANFL Clubs but to claim it lies soley with the concept of the Foxtel Cup is a leap I reckon. If we made the changes that PhilH is suggesting would the Eagles, Central and Norwood immediately accept their invite? I don't think so. If not, then we have "fixed" the Foxtel Cup but the core problem remains. So what does that tell us?

[Pseudo]

... but for us here in Adelaide to start claiming the concept is broken just because some of our teams won't participate ....

Cart before horse.

Some of our teams won't participate because the concept is broken.

[Hondo]

On the idea of the WAFL, VFL and SANFL teams getting the first 2 rounds off I think that comprises the whole idea of the competition. The beauty of sport is that the underdog sometimes gets to take on the champion. David gets to play Goliath. Often it's a thrashing but that's not reason enough not to do it. You never know when the upset might come or maybe it's an individual player from the minnow team that shines in the opportunity.

It's part of the colour of these sort of knock out competitions. Do we let the top 8 seeds off the early rounds in tennis?

These early games are shortened and can be used by the strong teams to give their best players the bye they feel they so badly need.

Once you start down the road of different roads to the grand final for different teams depending on what competition they play in then I think you may as well cull the minnows altogether and just have a WAFL/VFL/SANFL compeition. As I said though, even if you did that I still think some of our SANFL clubs would decline anyway so what are we achieving?