Glenelg v West Adelaide Post Match Review

[Blacky]

undiscipline rabble will not win another game this year
another wasted season so why do i bother

[am Bays]

Well done to zero sponsorship on the original strip. Is it the maiden victory in that guernsey?

depending on if we had changed to the gold with a black V guernsey for Rd 1 1925. Unsure from TPOTB when that occured.

[dedja]

Random observations ...

- the shortest path between 2 points is a straight line ... someone must have mentioned that to the Bays players today
- Glenelg vs West in Indigenous round ... you know it makes sense
- if you keep pissing off the umpires they learn to not like you very much ... someone forgot to mention that to a few Westies players today
- 3 goals with 4 kicks ... has that ever been done before?
- Super Carey on Snouts Hill ... every week ... legend
- is Hippie is Good
- crap year with plenty of disappointments but win next week and 1/2 game off third spot ... WTF?
- West should google the word discipline
- nearly 10 goals in it early in the last quarter ... up for a change

[blackandred]

Two struggling teams playing for their season at windy Glenelg oval today but only one team played with the skill, determination and discipline necessary to win. The other team was a rabble. Dreadful disposal, lack of endeavour and discipline, shocking skills, uneven team performance, yep, this team was West Adelaide.
Motlop, Bornholm and Kirk played with Blesing and Homburg dropping out. For the Bays Chad Cornes was called up by the Power and Salopek and Hitchcock came in.
The start was ominous for Westies. A free to the Bays before the first bounce - and so it went for the whole game. The Bays kicked with a strong nor-westerly and slammed on 6 with Westies getting a single major from young 192cm Brad Kirk with his first kick in senior footy. The Bays dominated the air taking 14 marks to Westies 4. 1Q Gl 6.4, WA 1.0.
Second Q was Westies turn and they played good direct footy to create opportunities up forward. 5 minutes before half time they hit the front and led 7.3 to 6.6. Then a combination of appalling umpiring decision and a lack of discipline from a few Westies players saw the Bays kick 3 gls in a minute including one gl from a free paid before the ball went back to the centre. There was a lot of pushing and shoving from both teams but Westies paid the price with several 25m penalties gifting the Bays easy goals and ultimately, the game. Half time Gl 9.6, WA 7.3.
The breeze dropped a little in the third Q but Gl played their best footy totally outclassing a shell-shocked Westies by booting 6.5 to 1 gl. 3Q Gl 15.11, WA 8.3.
The pressure was off in the last and Westies took advantage to kick 6 gls but the Bays added 5 into the breeze. Final score Gl 20.15, WA 14.6.
Westies can take some consolation from kicking 14 gls but that’s about it. They never really came to grips with the wind and regularly kicked the ball out on the full to gift possession to the Bays. They also turned the ball over with some monotony.
The skill level of this team has not improved in 4 years and there is a lot of room for improvement. Cute little Crows type handballs, loopy handballs all that put team mates under unnecessary pressure and cost possession.
Logan Hill and Bricknell were probably our best with Beech, Birss and Davenport doing some useful things. Morris limped off with what looked to be a serious leg injury but came back after half time albeit a little restricted. Motlop made only a minimal contribution, Shearer struggles at this level, Ezard is badly out of form and Brad Fisher is costing us about $1000 per kick. We were belted in the ruck and at the stoppages and coughed the ball up to the Bays through our terrible disposal and decision making.
Some mention must be made of the umpiring. It was simply shocking (from a WA perspective). So intent were they to impose themselves on the game that they over umpired, paying far too many technical decisions rather than allowing the game to flow and this frustrated the hell out of the West players (to their cost). The 25m penalty rule changes have also provided far too much power to the umpires and are detracting from the game by gifting too many goals for seemingly minor or unknown infringements.
Where to from here for Westies? They cannot play finals on their current form. The bye next week, perhaps get the umpires coach in to explain a few things to the players, regroup (again!), review the game plan (again!) , but it will get a whole lot harder in coming weeks.

[nickname]

Who out of Brad Fisher, Ferguson and Hartlett played today.

Without wanting to feed a troll, what is your point? I have asked you previously to expand beyond your mindless trolling and you don't seem to be up to the task. So put up or shut up.

My point is without these three big men West really really struggle and are nothing more than a lower ranked side without them.

Rubbish, Hartlett has had no impact. We've played very well either without him or with him making no contribution.

[whufc]

Has Westies lost a game this year where the umps werent against them

[Brodlach]

Has Westies lost a game this year where the umps werent against them

How many West games have you seen this year? Yes there have been losses where the umpires have not been the deciding factor.

[whufc]

Has Westies lost a game this year where the umps werent against them

How many West games have you seen this year? Yes there have been losses where the umpires have not been the deciding factor.

I have seen a couple of West games this year and each time they were very good but every West loss has followed by at least one West supporter on here saying how the umpires were 'against' West etc etc, it's just an observation.

[Brodlach]

Has Westies lost a game this year where the umps werent against them

How many West games have you seen this year? Yes there have been losses where the umpires have not been the deciding factor.

I have seen a couple of West games this year and each time they were very good but every West loss has followed by at least one West supporter on here saying how the umpires were 'against' West etc etc, it's just an observation.

I think every club has someone say the same thing when their team loses. Hit the front at the 20 minute mark of the second quarter and for Glenelg to be "gifted" three goals to an end where it was almost impossible to score goals, I think West supporters are entitled to ask the question. There are a few very fair minded supporters that dont question the umpires ever on the Bloods forum that were dismayed by the decisions yesterday.

[am Bays]

Point #1
As I demonstrated on Saturday at Myponga umpiring is a bloody hard job and damn easy from the sidelines!!! So my comments below are made knowing how hard it is and I'd like to think a rudimentry appreciation of the actual laws of Australian Football and their current interpretations

Point #2.
I wonder if any West supporters will admit to the absolute ride they got in the 1st quarter. Yes we had the better of the decisions late second and early in the 3rd but we should have been at least 8 goals up with hanging on decisions to our forwards and non-holding the ball decisions in our forward. To quote Digger from the Coodabeen Champions the game should've been totally ruined as a contest by qtr time if we had been paid what we should have.

In between those times the umpiring, from the perspective of this white maggot, was pretty even and obvious decisions paid to the player who made the footy his objective.

<Edit> Following Brodlachs post Westies supporters should read Law 12.4.2, Free kicks after all clear has been given, and then consider if the slinging of the smallest Glenelg player to the ground (as opposed to the pushing and shoving done by both sides) if that warrents a free kick as the ball is being taken back to the centre by the boundary umpires.

You can argue the toss if you pay it but the free kick was definately there. After the first qtr, finally we got a 50:50!!!!

[CENTURION]

West got smashed, the umpiring would have made no difference.

[Dutchy]

Clutching at straws if you think umpires make the difference in any game let alone a 8 goal hiding.

Start looking within West and you might have some success.

[Brodlach]

Clutching at straws if you think umpires make the difference in any game let alone a 8 goal hiding.

Start looking within West and you might have some success.

All I am suggesting Dutchy is that at a time when West were clearly on top that certain umpiring decisions changed the momenum of the game.

[The Sleeping Giant]

If you don't play within the rules of the game, expect to be punished.

[Mopar Dog]

Clutching at straws if you think umpires make the difference in any game let alone a 15 goal hiding.

5 day breaks on the other hand.....

[nickname]

If you don't play within the rules of the game, expect to be punished.

Start looking within West and you might have some success.

Thanks for these pearls guys, I'll pass them on to the coach. Anyone else got any insightful proverbs, aphorisms or bon mots?

[CENTURION]

you can't play footy like The Richmond Rockers?

[Dutchy]

Clutching at straws if you think umpires make the difference in any game let alone a 8 goal hiding.

Start looking within West and you might have some success.

All I am suggesting Dutchy is that at a time when West were clearly on top that certain umpiring decisions changed the momenum of the game.

And your players put themselves in the position for the umpire to make the decision, dont put yourself in that situation in the first place is what a coach should be saying.

[CENTURION]

yep, whenever one of The Twins goes off the rails, He is dragged immediately, or He takes Himself off! Responsibility & accountability comes from the players themselves firstly, then the coach.

[Brodlach]

Clutching at straws if you think umpires make the difference in any game let alone a 8 goal hiding.

Start looking within West and you might have some success.

All I am suggesting Dutchy is that at a time when West were clearly on top that certain umpiring decisions changed the momenum of the game.

And your players put themselves in the position for the umpire to make the decision, dont put yourself in that situation in the first place is what a coach should be saying.

Looking at todays paper, coach didnt think they did put thm in that situation