Interesting observation on SANFL

[Bunton]

that would all be fine of the SANFL gave the clubs back the responsibility to drive participation in their zones (as was the case around 10 years ago). How is it fair for the SANFL to say, "we drive participation - but if we don't have much success in a particular area, then that is just bad luck for the club in that area".

Either give clubs back the responsibility to drive participation, or if not, split participants evenly.

[Dirko]

Either give clubs back the responsibility to drive participation, or if not, split participants evenly.

Clubs do have the responsibility to drive participation, unless South haven't got the same set up as most clubs...

[Mickyj]

Either give clubs back the responsibility to drive participation, or if not, split participants evenly.

Clubs do have the responsibility to drive participation, unless South haven't got the same set up as most clubs...

Well said SJABC
Is this a case of South Adelaide being reactive rather than proactive !!!
Get off your bums and copy Central Districts for a few years .Then get back to the sanfl if that doesnt work .

[Barto]

This has been a problem for a few decades now, it's not just recent. Cant force a bloke to put in the amount of commitment required.

It's not just 'laziness' though. If a young bloke has the nous to go to uni and set up a long term lucrative career or is learning a trade with the option of going to the mines and earning $100K a year, cant really knock him for turning his back on SANFL footy.

Here's a challenge for the average supporter: get down to training each for each and every session and see how much time it takes out of the week. This doesn't even take into account the physical effort.

[Mickyj]

This has been a problem for a few decades now, it's not just recent. Cant force a bloke to put in the amount of commitment required.

It's not just 'laziness' though. If a young bloke has the nous to go to uni and set up a long term lucrative career or is learning a trade with the option of going to the mines and earning $100K a year, cant really knock him for turning his back on SANFL footy.

Here's a challenge for the average supporter: get down to training each for each and every session and see how much time it takes out of the week. This doesn't even take into account the physical effort.

Very true Barto .I go to eagles training start off twice a week prexmas drop back to Wednesdays until the season starts .
Those guys do a hell of a lot of work out there .And i feel guilty this week I had to miss going as i "had to " work Over time .

[CENTURION]

i hope that I don't say the wrong thing here, just passing on an observation someone made, someone from down south named Matt. He told me that the south's problem in general is drugs...and the beach. together they create a "Nimbin" sort of attitude to life, if you know what I mean.

[southee]

i hope that I don't say the wrong thing here, just passing on an observation someone made, someone from down south named Matt. He told me that the south's problem in general is drugs...and the beach. together they create a "Nimbin" sort of attitude to life, if you know what I mean.

Mods???

Crap post!!!

Get out of here tool!!!

[SDK]

Hate to say it but it all revolves around work ethic.
In the southern suburbs we have far too many who are 3rd generation unemployed and have not been exposed to working towards a goal. Grandpa was on the dole ...dad is on the dole ...I will be on the dole.
This lack of goal seeking reflects in their attitude to football.
Look at the great players from the country over the years and present day. Country kids who were taught to work and work hard for a living. This work ethic is reflected in their football attitude.

[redandblack]

I don't think it needs moderating, southee. The north has copped plenty of stick on here as well.

You're right, though, it's an ignorant crap post and is best just ignored.

[southee]

I don't think it needs moderating, southee. The north has copped plenty of stick on here as well.

You're right, though, it's an ignorant crap post and is best just ignored.

Come on, to say the D word when there is no proof??? (Total heresay)

Great for the club that is trying to step in the right direction.

Posts like that should not be allowed on this forum. (BTW I have no idea what is being said about North).

If its not going, I will just ignore it then.

Just hope people who read it are not thick enough to believe s**t like what the tool has posted.

Im sure the club would love to read it

[redandblack]

Read more carefully, southee.

The post said "THE south's" problem, not South Adelaide.

As I said, though, I agree with you. Personally, I think all posts stigmatising people or a suburb or location in general are not only ignorant and boring, but reflect poorly on the poster.

It was a crap post and most would see it as such.

[southee]

Read more carefully, southee.

The post said "THE south's" problem, not South Adelaide.

As I said, though, I agree with you. Personally, I think all posts stigmatising people or a suburb or location in general are not only ignorant and boring, but reflect poorly on the poster.

It was a crap post and most would see it as such.

Written by a Central supporter too!! Maybe he can look in his own backyard???

Point taken R&B

[jim5112]

Read more carefully, southee.

The post said "THE south's" problem, not South Adelaide.

As I said, though, I agree with you. Personally, I think all posts stigmatising people or a suburb or location in general are not only ignorant and boring, but reflect poorly on the poster.

It was a crap post and most would see it as such.

Written by a Central supporter too!! Maybe he can look in his own backyard???

Point taken R&B

Are you trying out for the Hypocrite of the Year award?

You are whining about posts that say mean things about your own club while at the same time doing exactly the same thing yourself!!!

[southee]

Read more carefully, southee.

The post said "THE south's" problem, not South Adelaide.

As I said, though, I agree with you. Personally, I think all posts stigmatising people or a suburb or location in general are not only ignorant and boring, but reflect poorly on the poster.

It was a crap post and most would see it as such.

Written by a Central supporter too!! Maybe he can look in his own backyard???

Point taken R&B

Are you trying out for the Hypocrite of the Year award?

You are whining about posts that say mean things about your own club while at the same time doing exactly the same thing yourself!!!

[Bunton]

Either give clubs back the responsibility to drive participation, or if not, split participants evenly.

Clubs do have the responsibility to drive participation, unless South haven't got the same set up as most clubs...

Well said SJABC
Is this a case of South Adelaide being reactive rather than proactive !!!
Get off your bums and copy Central Districts for a few years .Then get back to the sanfl if that doesnt work .

Mickyj, for someone who brags about spending all his time at his club, I thought you might know a bit more. Ask your beloved Footy Manager or CEO who hires, pays and asseses your development manager Brad Geddes? Similarly at Glenelg with Lachlan Button. Then tell me who has the responsibility for driving participation.

[redandblack]

Bunton, that's just semantics.

Regardless of who pays the Development Manager, it's up to each club to work their zone for the best results.

Perhaps South's problem has been that they look to blame everyone but themselves.

[Bunton]

Bunton, that's just semantics.

Regardless of who pays the Development Manager, it's up to each club to work their zone for the best results.

Perhaps South's problem has been that they look to blame everyone but themselves.

South do plenty in their zone to complement what the SANFL now do (see one example below from their web-site) but as opposed to arrangements 10 years ago, they do not set the agenda for driving participation any more, as is the case at all clubs.

http://safc.com.au/index.php?option=com ... d3eda2f2c2

[nickname]

This is a broader problem for football, rather than just for South. And I would have thought the two AFL clubs could and should play a role here (or a bigger one if they do it to some extent now) in promoting the code and the local SANFL clubs with a lot more physical presence by high profile players (current and former) in these zones. I'm told it's not easy to get the AFL clubs interested in this.

[Wedgie]

This is a broader problem for football, rather than just for South. And I would have thought the two AFL clubs could and should play a role here (or a bigger one if they do it to some extent now) in promoting the code and the local SANFL clubs with a lot more physical presence by high profile players (current and former) in these zones. I'm told it's not easy to get the AFL clubs interested in this.

Considering the local AFL clubs recruit more people from other states than here and will get propped up financially if they don't get people going to games why would they bother?

[redandblack]

Bunton, that's just semantics.

Regardless of who pays the Development Manager, it's up to each club to work their zone for the best results.

Perhaps South's problem has been that they look to blame everyone but themselves.

South do plenty in their zone to complement what the SANFL now do (see one example below from their web-site) but as opposed to arrangements 10 years ago, they do not set the agenda for driving participation any more, as is the case at all clubs.

http://safc.com.au/index.php?option=com ... d3eda2f2c2

That's excellent, mate. Good to see.