Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

[beenreal]

The way I read it, there was the Port Adelaide Football Club, established 1870, in the SANFL, and subsequently the same team that joined the AFL comp in the 1990's.

At the same time (as the PAFC joined the AFL), a new entity, the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club, was formed, and began in the SANFL.

FWIW, the PAMFC haven't been too successful in their current format.

Also FWIW, if I am not right, why are they merging? If they were the same club, they wouldn't need to merge, right?

I don't bother myself with legalities in sport. What I voted on was to move to the AFL and continue in the SANFL. Whether that means the Magpies are a new club I'm not sure. It certainly doesn't feel that way when I'm copping heat for past injustices from opposition supporters.

And thanks to the current separation setup enforced through the wisdom (paranoia) of the SANFL, they haven't been too successful.

The South Adelaide FC example is exactly why. Even with it's limited success, limited supporter base and limited Membership, it still posts a yearly profit. Why? Because it has its own well run Function Centre and keeps all the revenue that it generates.

Let's put another SAFC, sharing the same name, the same supporter base and taking 75-85% of that Function Centre revenue at Hickenbotham Oval and see how the landscape changes.

[o five]

Do most of us a favour and one of ya`s fold for god sake
Atleast then this broken record can be thrown out once and for all.

[Barto]

For a period of history, there was only one Germany until 1945. When they were divided, which was the real one?

The one on the left.

[Jim05]

The magpies are the real port adelaide they have all the history and the power was made up to enter the afl. It was a mistake right from the start it does not matter where they play they are not going to get any more supporters. They cant sponge off everyone forever

[Media Park]

The way I read it, there was the Port Adelaide Football Club, established 1870, in the SANFL, and subsequently the same team that joined the AFL comp in the 1990's.

At the same time (as the PAFC joined the AFL), a new entity, the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club, was formed, and began in the SANFL.

FWIW, the PAMFC haven't been too successful in their current format.

Also FWIW, if I am not right, why are they merging? If they were the same club, they wouldn't need to merge, right?

I don't bother myself with legalities in sport.

You just want to pull the emotional heartstring for your argument to sound good, but bugger the realistic side?

[beenreal]

The way I read it, there was the Port Adelaide Football Club, established 1870, in the SANFL, and subsequently the same team that joined the AFL comp in the 1990's.

At the same time (as the PAFC joined the AFL), a new entity, the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club, was formed, and began in the SANFL.

FWIW, the PAMFC haven't been too successful in their current format.

Also FWIW, if I am not right, why are they merging? If they were the same club, they wouldn't need to merge, right?

I don't bother myself with legalities in sport.

You just want to pull the emotional heartstring for your argument to sound good, but bugger the realistic side?

Yep, I thought you were on the path to a rational discussion but you suckered me in, then selectively quoted. Well done MP, you lived up to your name.

[Media Park]

The way I read it, there was the Port Adelaide Football Club, established 1870, in the SANFL, and subsequently the same team that joined the AFL comp in the 1990's.

At the same time (as the PAFC joined the AFL), a new entity, the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club, was formed, and began in the SANFL.

FWIW, the PAMFC haven't been too successful in their current format.

Also FWIW, if I am not right, why are they merging? If they were the same club, they wouldn't need to merge, right?

I don't bother myself with legalities in sport.

You just want to pull the emotional heartstring for your argument to sound good, but bugger the realistic side?

Yep, I thought you were on the path to a rational discussion but you suckered me in, then selectively quoted. Well done MP, you lived up to your name.

It's taken me all day!

[Sojourner]

If the merger does go ahead albeit in more of a restricted form, will the Magpies in the SANFL be wearing the Power colours and or guernsey?

[beenreal]

If the merger does go ahead albeit in more of a restricted form, will the Magpies in the SANFL be wearing the Power colours and or guernsey?

No it's Admin/ Membership only.

[PhilH]

Not according to the report in the Age ... specifically refers to Power reserves team in SANFL.

Thats when I realised the report may not reflect reality.

For mine an admin / membership merger is possible ... but the parties have to overcome a skeptic commission / club directors by selling some benefits to the SANFL competition as a whole.
- ie Would ability to directly market SANFL games to Power only members, drive up Magpie crowds at away games when no AFL in Adelaide?


However the Magpies being the Power reserves side is not on.

To maintain the integirty of the competition the Magpies need to be a seperate team whose sole goal (like the other 8 SANFL clubs) is to win the premiership, not be a feeder to the Power.

[birdmanptr]

However the Magpies being the Power reserves side is not on.

To maintain the integirty of the competition the Magpies need to be a seperate team whose sole goal (like the other 8 SANFL clubs) is to win the premiership, not be a feeder to the Power.

They become one club and the PAFC become the Port Power reserves side no fear of that.

[Slots It Through]

You will find that the Magpies have no interest in being the Powers reserves side at all. They have no interest in changing the colours at all.

The Power are pushing this merger, and its got or is getting the support of the big wigs at the AFL, so i think it will be just a matter of time.

[nickname]

You will also find that The Power couldn't care less about the Magpies. Makes for an interesting merger.

[beenreal]

You will also find that The Power couldn't care less about the Magpies. Makes for an interesting merger.

Really? And your impeccable source is...?

[Sojourner]

When and if this is announced, will Bohdan Jaworskyj be then going ahead with his plan to "pursue their (NAFC) options with the Crows" for a similar arrangment?

[nickname]

You will also find that The Power couldn't care less about the Magpies. Makes for an interesting merger.

Really? And your impeccable source is...?

Impeccable is a very good word to describe my source.
The Power believe the Magpies are fragmenting their supporter base. They'd be happier if the Magpies folded.

[Media Park]

However the Magpies being the Power reserves side is not on.

To maintain the integirty of the competition the Magpies need to be a seperate team whose sole goal (like the other 8 SANFL clubs) is to win the premiership, not be a feeder to the Power.

They become one club and the PAFC become the Port Power reserves side no fear of that.

More likely the Power would be the Reserves side, based on current form...

[beenreal]

When and if this is announced, will Bohdan Jaworskyj be then going ahead with his plan to "pursue their (NAFC) options with the Crows" for a similar arrangment?

When the Crows move into Menzies Crescent and call themselves the North Adelaide Football Club, I'll have no problem with it.

[finn]

If the Magpies become a reserves side of the Power, what happens to Port's under 18 and reserves sides? Do they become a feeder side to fill in the reserves and what happens to the Magpies country zones as they would then be the only club with a designated zone? What happens to SANFL players drafted by the Power? What happens to those supporterswho don't identify solely with either - eg the kid in the prelim budget who was a Magpies and Crows supporter?

Merging administration would give the Magpies more money to spend as this would be covered by the AFL club and potentially the tv earnings etc from the AFL (correct me if wrong here). The SANFL have loaned the Power money - would this then be used to pay Magpie admin costs?

I also believe that if a reserves side is ok'd then adelaide will understandably want their own leading to a further draining of players from the local clubs to fill this side. It seems to be a thin edge of wedge stuff to me and one step closer to the AFL being godfather to all competitions.

North, Sturt, Norwood all had financial problems brought about by bad business decisions, especially with regards to location of pokie emporiums, Port Magpies are paying the price for locating theirs within earshot of the Power club and relocation to another site within their zone, or renovation within the present site may change their receipts. I don't believe that the other SANFL clubs should pay for these bad decisions with a threat to the competition.

I'm happy to be convinced of the need to merge especially if it upholds the strength and integrity of the SANFL.

[CUTTERMAN]

If the Magpies become a reserves side of the Power, what happens to Port's under 18 and reserves sides? Do they become a feeder side to fill in the reserves and what happens to the Magpies country zones as they would then be the only club with a designated zone? What happens to SANFL players drafted by the Power? What happens to those supporterswho don't identify solely with either - eg the kid in the prelim budget who was a Magpies and Crows supporter?

Merging administration would give the Magpies more money to spend as this would be covered by the AFL club and potentially the tv earnings etc from the AFL (correct me if wrong here). The SANFL have loaned the Power money - would this then be used to pay Magpie admin costs?

I also believe that if a reserves side is ok'd then adelaide will understandably want their own leading to a further draining of players from the local clubs to fill this side. It seems to be a thin edge of wedge stuff to me and one step closer to the AFL being godfather to all competitions.

North, Sturt, Norwood all had financial problems brought about by bad business decisions, especially with regards to location of pokie emporiums, Port Magpies are paying the price for locating theirs within earshot of the Power club and relocation to another site within their zone, or renovation within the present site may change their receipts. I don't believe that the other SANFL clubs should pay for these bad decisions with a threat to the competition.

I'm happy to be convinced of the need to merge especially if it upholds the strength and integrity of the SANFL.

Well put Finn, and I hear myself say again, what happens when Sturt or any other SANFL club is on the verge of folding, who do they merge with?
AND, can someone please explain how PAMFC can be so financially strained if their attendences are equal to that of Sturts as is their memberships and probably the income generated by TPOW compared to Barzaar for Sturt, add to that Sturts matchday expenses are considerably more than any other club in the comp.
This is bullshit bullshit bullshit, once again this is BULLSHIT!
This arsehole club will be the end of the SANFL.