SANFL equalisation

[Sam_goUUUdogs]

I've said before on this board that the dominance of Central is not to the benefit of the SANFL as a brand.

How can it be of no benefit to the SANFL as a brand? Surely Centrals setting a high standard for other clubs to strive towards in order to succeed can only be a positive thing for the quality of football being played and therefore a benefit to the SANFL as a brand.

I'm sure at those points in time people were getting pretty tired of one club dominating.

For me a certain period of time without a premiership for my club is the same regardless of who is winning them, wouldn't bother me in the slightest if 8 clubs took turns, or if one club won them all.
Surely Glenelg supporters wouldn't be content with things if North, Sturt and West won the next 3 premierships? I'd say they'd be equally as disappointed as if Centrals won the next 3.
While an us vs them mentality might seem like a bit of fun, we ultimately support 1 club, not 8.
Centrals regularly winning might take a little interest away for the neutrals, (and the genuine neutrals are a small minority, most followers of SANFL will have some affiliation to 1 particular club) but it really shouldn't, going into the grand final there is still 2 teams in with a chance, its far from a given that Centrals will end up winning it.

[Tassie Blues]

Back in 1999, Central decided to study Port Adelaide very very closely and see what made them successful. This study helped us become the club we are today. As some have already stated on here, this is what other clubs need to do. Study what has made Central a reasonable success over the past decade, use the club as a model but put in measures to surpass it.
Cheers

interesting that 2 clubs have both had centrals players as coach and neither club had much success or even lasted very long as coach. If i was running a business and got staff from a much more successful business i would that full advantage of how things are done at the more successful business. Maybe some are to set in there ways.

[sjt]

Back in 1999, Central decided to study Port Adelaide very very closely and see what made them successful. This study helped us become the club we are today. As some have already stated on here, this is what other clubs need to do. Study what has made Central a reasonable success over the past decade, use the club as a model but put in measures to surpass it.
Cheers

interesting that 2 clubs have both had centrals players as coach and neither club had much success or even lasted very long as coach. If i was running a business and got staff from a much more successful business i would that full advantage of how things are done at the more successful business. Maybe some are to set in there ways.

"Macgowan's influence on Sturt has been profound since he assumed the coaching mantle at the end of 2006, a season in which the Blues won just three matches.

In his first season in charge, Macgowan catapulted Sturt into the finals on the back of a 12-8 win-loss record, only to bow out in the elimination final.

In 2008, Macgowan's charges finished third after completing the minor round ranked second on the ladder with an impressive 15-5 win-loss record."
Healy well agreed not much success.
Alistair Clarkson did alright, but obviously wasn't a player.
A couple of other ex-players now in coaching roles, include Stewie Dew and Peter Jonas

[whufc]

Back in 1999, Central decided to study Port Adelaide very very closely and see what made them successful. This study helped us become the club we are today. As some have already stated on here, this is what other clubs need to do. Study what has made Central a reasonable success over the past decade, use the club as a model but put in measures to surpass it.
Cheers

interesting that 2 clubs have both had centrals players as coach and neither club had much success or even lasted very long as coach. If i was running a business and got staff from a much more successful business i would that full advantage of how things are done at the more successful business. Maybe some are to set in there ways.

"Macgowan's influence on Sturt has been profound since he assumed the coaching mantle at the end of 2006, a season in which the Blues won just three matches.

In his first season in charge, Macgowan catapulted Sturt into the finals on the back of a 12-8 win-loss record, only to bow out in the elimination final.

In 2008, Macgowan's charges finished third after completing the minor round ranked second on the ladder with an impressive 15-5 win-loss record."
Healy well agreed not much success.
Alistair Clarkson did alright, but obviously wasn't a player.
A couple of other ex-players now in coaching roles, include Stewie Dew and Peter Jonas

Radle Moller is also coaching somewhere in NSW as well, and Danny Stevens is a scout? for the Greater Western Sydney side

[FlyingHigh]

North Melbourne won premierships with average facilities. Collingwood (as yet) haven't won premierships with exceptional facilities.
I think its been covered a few times before, but I think success has been a result of a number of factors:

1) Recruiting quality players and players that are quality people. These players generally stay longer than a year.
2) Being financial and good facilities
3) Success breeds success
4) Bringing through quality local players to fill losses via recruitment (out) and retirement
5) Stable management, leadership, and coaching (that doesn't necessarily mean no changes in coaches)
6) A good club atmosphere
7) Not accepting, second best
retaining players, that will play a significant amount of SANFL games.
9) Disciplined leaders.

Fully agree sjt.
Point 4 is an interesting one, and this is sort of succession planning is one that people overlook.
To take the Centrals example, they have players like Reichart and Hynes (and others - you'll probably be able to come up with more names) close to ready in the 2's. Sibenalar, Graham and Aufderheide from memory are others who served a reasonable apprenticeship and as an opposition supporter you wondered if Centrals were on the slide when these blokes finally got regular games. Of course they weren't, because of all your points. Obviously the treatment of, and communication with, these players is vital so they know how they fit into the club's future.
Similarly, whether they are locals or not, Laird seems to be keen to try players in different roles to see whether they can offer something. Sure, he may have the luxury of doing so with so many other good players around him and often they are assured of a finals berth.
I reckon the Eagles as a club have done reasonably well over the last decade by all your criteria, except for point 4 and the related points I have added. We seem to have had a huge turnover of players who have been fringe league players and some who left just as their time was coming. Also, not too many have be reinvented in different spots, Stokes would be an example, now Symmons.

[Tassie Blues]

Back in 1999, Central decided to study Port Adelaide very very closely and see what made them successful. This study helped us become the club we are today. As some have already stated on here, this is what other clubs need to do. Study what has made Central a reasonable success over the past decade, use the club as a model but put in measures to surpass it.
Cheers

interesting that 2 clubs have both had centrals players as coach and neither club had much success or even lasted very long as coach. If i was running a business and got staff from a much more successful business i would that full advantage of how things are done at the more successful business. Maybe some are to set in there ways.

"Macgowan's influence on Sturt has been profound since he assumed the coaching mantle at the end of 2006, a season in which the Blues won just three matches.

In his first season in charge, Macgowan catapulted Sturt into the finals on the back of a 12-8 win-loss record, only to bow out in the elimination final.

In 2008, Macgowan's charges finished third after completing the minor round ranked second on the ladder with an impressive 15-5 win-loss record."
Healy well agreed not much success.
Alistair Clarkson did alright, but obviously wasn't a player.
A couple of other ex-players now in coaching roles, include Stewie Dew and Peter Jonas

a 5th and 3rd not really central standard of a successful year is it. maybe in the 80's and 90's the dog would have loved making the finals and maybe even winning one but now they would be very disappointed if they don't make a grand final and win it. Maybe the other 8 clubs need this kind of attitude. Mediocrity is not acceptable!

[Lynwood]

Interesting to note that Tony Bamford, the Port Magpies coach, was spotted at Central training down at AAMI last night...

I'd suggest Tony was watching how Roy went about things in a training session as they are the benchmark and other clubs, as am Bays perfectly put it, need to aspire to be better than Central at what they do best.

Amazing how the wheel turns as Central were once in a position through the 90's where they were the ones going to Maggies training sessions making notes.

As a Coach you always need to adapt and find that edge over opposition and watching the best side is one way to start that. Hopefully he learnt something from watching for the next few years.