Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby JK » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:19 pm

csbowes wrote:
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Voice wrote:As can be seen by the pics on AdelaideNow, Weslo were doing nothing to diffuse the situation and they were informed by police that they hadn't done their job properly.
The fact of the matter is that if the player in question was moved on after he made the comments that Weslo heard, none of this would have happened.


Or if people were secure enough to brush off comments, it perhaps wouldn't have happened either?

Agreed.

However, if Treeby did what was alleged, he is a piss poor representative of the club. I'd have his contract terminated.


Completely agree with that too
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby The Apostle » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:21 pm

csbowes wrote:But going off what has been written on AdelaideNow

You're not taking the comments on there seriously are you??? :roll: ...I wouldn't!!!
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby CENTURION » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:26 pm

CONSPIRACY THEORY! It didn't happen, just a media beat-up, to get a lot of people to Unley Oval this weekend. The haves v The have-nots, hope the Emos are there again this year ;)
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby tigermad » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:28 pm

that right too the jaw might cost the big fella $$$ if the guy sues him :lol:
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Voice » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:30 pm

CENTURION wrote:CONSPIRACY THEORY! It didn't happen, just a media beat-up, to get a lot of people to Unley Oval this weekend. The haves v The have-nots, hope the Emos are there again this year ;)

Don't forget about the only supporters in the league to still wear Eminem tops and Dada trackies with the fake 50cent bling ;) :lol:
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby CENTURION » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:34 pm

Voice wrote:
CENTURION wrote:CONSPIRACY THEORY! It didn't happen, just a media beat-up, to get a lot of people to Unley Oval this weekend. The haves v The have-nots, hope the Emos are there again this year ;)

Don't forget about the only supporters in the league to still wear Eminem tops and Dada trackies with the fake 50cent bling ;) :lol:

hmmm...I won't mention fiddy cent, Bay supporters know why :roll:
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Pseudo » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:34 pm

To my mind the lowest thing about this whole affair is that it made page 3 of the weekend bumwipe.

It is a sad, sad indictment on the media when the only time the SANFL can feature so prominently is when a few supporters have a punch up.

The Adelaide press is little better than a women's gossip magazine. The editors of that sad little tabloid need to stand in front of a mirror and take a long, hard look at what they see.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Voice » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:36 pm

Pseudo wrote:To my mind the lowest thing about this whole affair is that it made page 3 of the weekend bumwipe.

It is a sad, sad indictment on the media when the only time the SANFL can feature so prominently is when a few supporters have a punch up.

The Adelaide press is little better than a women's gossip magazine. The editors of that sad little tabloid need to stand in front of a mirror and take a long, hard look at what they see.

And they should probably find a more credible 'eye-witness' too! CHK CHK- BOOM
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Pseudo » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:37 pm

PS - the ones who should be wearing the blame here are the ones who threw punches, regardless of team supported, regardless of provocation. Rude names never hurt anyone. HTFU.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Voice » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:42 pm

Pseudo wrote:PS - the ones who should be wearing the blame here are the ones who threw punches, regardless of team supported, regardless of provocation. Rude names never hurt anyone. HTFU.

To use an analogy, you can poke a bear, but it's the bears fault for retaliating?
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Barto » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:54 pm

Voice wrote:
Pseudo wrote:PS - the ones who should be wearing the blame here are the ones who threw punches, regardless of team supported, regardless of provocation. Rude names never hurt anyone. HTFU.

To use an analogy, you can poke a bear, but it's the bears fault for retaliating?


The pics show an Eagle supporter throwing a punch ;)

Oh that's right, all the Sturt supporters are at fault.
It's all the SANFL's fault.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:55 pm

csbowes wrote:The discussion here should not be on who has the worst supporters or whose supporters cause the most trouble, the discussion should be about how does the league do something about it? Can they? Can the clubs?


Agreed. This discussion should not be littered by people taking cheap shots at other clubs, it should be a discussion about general behaviour. As you quite rightly point out, each and every club has their share of tosser supporters.

Generally, since the Crows entered the AFL, I've been happy with crowd behaviour, and my theory was that only genuine lovers of SANFL footy were attending games, and all the wankers gravitated to the AFL. Sure, you will always have the odd argument in the crowd, just last week there were a group of West and Norwood supporters having an ongoing argument, but at no stage did it ever threaten to become physical. Sanity prevailed.

However, at a game earlier this season, my team was well ahead at 3/4 time. I was walking across the ground to see if some mates were on the other side, and opposition supporters had gathered in the middle, obviously not happy, and some of them were really spitting poison at their players and the umpires. I recall thinking that it would only take these people to be standing next to opposition supporters with the same lack of discipline, and no doubt there would be trouble.

I find it reprehensible that a player would get involved in this sort of behaviour, and if it were a player from my club, I would be very comfortable with his immediate dismissal. I don't care if he was a perpetrator or not, a player should exhibit more discipline and restraint than this.

What to do? Security guards need to patrol the area, and anyone exhibiting feral behaviour, physical or otherwise should be escorted from the ground. Don't allow the situation to fester and turn into situations that occured yesterday. Not good enough.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby The Apostle » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:58 pm

Just collected the Sunday Mail from the front yard (12:45pm :oops:). Turn to page 3 to have a look at the story...recognised "Ralph the Mouth" (Sturt supporter) in the big picture...an absolute tosser!!! :evil:
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Mr Irate » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:02 pm

csbowes wrote:The discussion here should not be on who has the worst supporters or whose supporters cause the most trouble, the discussion should be about how does the league do something about it? Can they? Can the clubs?

I'm sure if we polled everyone in this forum about incidents they've had with other fans, we'd probably find every club has had some of its supporters act like total tossers at some point in time... though I've personally never come across a nasty South supporter! :-)

Centrals have been highlighted a lot in recent years...

Sturt have been highlighted a lot in recent years...

Maybe those two are the worst, but surely every other club isn't supported by angels and angels alone...


Maybe we could get Big Phil on here to provide a concise view :roll:
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Aerie » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:13 pm

If Treeby said anything to the cheer squad he should know better. A stupid thing for him to do. He should be stood down from the leadership group.

Physical violence should not be tolerated, but if you are chased and man handled you've got to defend yourself.

Why were the Sturt cheer squad down that end of the oval? I've never seen an opposition cheer squad set themselves up there before. Looking for trouble? A security issue that Weslo and the SANFL could and should do something about with set positions for cheer squads at each ground (which there usually are anyway).

Yesterday and recent events would suggest the Sturt cheer squad should be disbanded and banned - at least from Woodville Oval.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Dutchy » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:17 pm

Voice wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:
Voice wrote:As can be seen by the pics on AdelaideNow, Weslo were doing nothing to diffuse the situation and they were informed by police that they hadn't done their job properly.
The fact of the matter is that if the player in question was moved on after he made the comments that Weslo heard, none of this would have happened.


Or if people were secure enough to brush off comments, it perhaps wouldn't have happened either?

It wasn't the comments directly that caused the fraca. It was the fact that some of our supporters went up to Weslo to ask why some of our supporters were threatened with eviction when the player relating to this incident wasn't even looked at. The player continued on with it while our supporters were talking to Weslo.
If the mods will allow it I can post on here what transpired from start to finish (without naming anyone) so as to end speculation.


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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Mr Irate » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:26 pm

Pseudo wrote:PS - the ones who should be wearing the blame here are the ones who threw punches, regardless of team supported, regardless of provocation. Rude names never hurt anyone. HTFU.


Your a _ _ _ _ _ _ , Pseudo :lol:
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Voice » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:10 pm

Aerie wrote:If Treeby said anything to the cheer squad he should know better. A stupid thing for him to do. He should be stood down from the leadership group.

Physical violence should not be tolerated, but if you are chased and man handled you've got to defend yourself.

Why were the Sturt cheer squad down that end of the oval? I've never seen an opposition cheer squad set themselves up there before. Looking for trouble? A security issue that Weslo and the SANFL could and should do something about with set positions for cheer squads at each ground (which there usually are anyway).

Yesterday and recent events would suggest the Sturt cheer squad should be disbanded and banned - at least from Woodville Oval.

That was actually a decision made by myself as the other end of the ground is very, very boring. There would be 30-50 people up that end other than the cheersquad and I wanted to be involved in the atmosphere of the game. In hindsight it was probably a bad idea.
We moved up that end last year to be at the same end as Chambo when he kicked his 10th goal, and thouroghly enjoyed it.
We will be back to the 'quiet' end when we return to Woodville in a few weeks time.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Bluedemon » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:12 pm

Aerie wrote:If Treeby said anything to the cheer squad he should know better. A stupid thing for him to do. He should be stood down from the leadership group.

Physical violence should not be tolerated, but if you are chased and man handled you've got to defend yourself.

Why were the Sturt cheer squad down that end of the oval? I've never seen an opposition cheer squad set themselves up there before. Looking for trouble? A security issue that Weslo and the SANFL could and should do something about with set positions for cheer squads at each ground (which there usually are anyway).

Yesterday and recent events would suggest the Sturt cheer squad should be disbanded and banned - at least from Woodville Oval.


Aerie you just keep writing some silly stuff dont you, we know you hate Sturt but why should the sturt cheer squad be the blame. what were weslo doing beside eating all the pies. i agree with you that cheer squads should be at seperate end of the grounds and weslo had the chance to do that yesterday but they didnt, they are the big blame.

treeby as a senior player should have know better not to have a crack at the opposition supporters and so should have a collection of reserves players who would have been following his lead.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Voice » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:24 pm

One thing I forgot to mention was that for the whole last qtr the cheer squads were at opposite ends of the ground. Eagles had moved to the quiet end and we were still at the northern end. The matter isn't to do with rival cheersquads, it's to do with one of the Eagles players in a group provoking our cheersquad and weslo's inability to recognise what was needed to diffuse the situation.
I'll get to writing a full report later as Dutchy has given the all clear but I'm a bit busy right now.
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