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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby nickname » Sun May 09, 2010 12:28 am

GWW wrote:
Peter Griffen wrote:Jono Beech - Gun!


Is he the son of the Beech (Dave?) who played for West in the 1980's?


I believe he's the son of Mick Beech who played for us in the 80s, not to be confused with Mark Beech who also played for us in the 80s and was a sensational player whose career was cut short by injury.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby Peter Griffen » Sun May 09, 2010 12:51 am

nickname wrote:
GWW wrote:
Peter Griffen wrote:Jono Beech - Gun!


Is he the son of the Beech (Dave?) who played for West in the 1980's?


I believe he's the son of Mick Beech who played for us in the 80s, not to be confused with Mark Beech who also played for us in the 80s and was a sensational player whose career was cut short by injury.[/

Definitely Mick's son. Was everywhere today. Not the quickest guy but silky smooth and just knows how to play footy!
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby ferret » Sun May 09, 2010 1:24 pm

Looks like Fuller put his personal vendetta to beat the Eagles above the club's future success. The effort to beat the Eagles looks to have drained the Panthers emotionally. The form shown by the Panthers against the Eagles should have had them easily beating the Magpies and Bloods.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun May 09, 2010 2:12 pm

One of the dumbest posts I have seen on this site, which says alot.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby saintal » Sun May 09, 2010 3:01 pm

ferret wrote:Looks like Fuller put his personal vendetta to beat the Eagles above the club's future success. The effort to beat the Eagles looks to have drained the Panthers emotionally. The form shown by the Panthers against the Eagles should have had them easily beating the Magpies and Bloods.


Yep, must have been the reason :roll:

I couldn't get to the game so can't comment in any great detail. Pretty hard game to listen to on the radio. Two weeks straight we've started favourites, only to be over-run in the second half. Very disappointing.

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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby blood bath » Sun May 09, 2010 3:33 pm

How did Scott Harding go in the Reserves yesterday? With a hamstring injury to Anderson, surely is a spot there for a player with his experience.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby bloods08 » Sun May 09, 2010 4:41 pm

blood bath wrote:How did Scott Harding go in the Reserves yesterday? With a hamstring injury to Anderson, surely is a spot there for a player with his experience.

Didn't play at all. Think he may be injured as well as he certaintly looked like he was carrying something over the last couple of weeks.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby Brodlach » Mon May 10, 2010 9:23 am

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blood bath wrote:How did Scott Harding go in the Reserves yesterday? With a hamstring injury to Anderson, surely is a spot there for a player with his experience.

Didn't play at all. Think he may be injured as well as he certaintly looked like he was carrying something over the last couple of weeks.


He hurt his ankle against Norwood in the night game a couple of weeks ago and doesnt seem to have fully recovered.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby pale ale » Mon May 10, 2010 10:01 am

Injury's are going to to be a problem with the Panthers Mid Season, good recuiting has made some difference but look at the Reserves and U/18s results this year and there is still a lot of improvement as a Club needed to be successfull on a regular basis.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby Blueandwhiteforever » Mon May 10, 2010 10:45 am

Certainly is disappointing Saintal and I agree with you. Not having the luck go our way at the moment against Port they had Cloke,Trengove and Clayton back and against West Lobbe, Pettigrew and Birss and we lost O'Keefe by the sounds of it. Three handy AFL inclusions against us both times which can make the difference. That's 4 quality players in there favour. Anyway what can you do they obviously have lost the flow, centre battles, getting first to ball, intensity and desire in last 2 weeks. Looks like the South of old. There seems to be a vicous cycle at South where they never get out of. Have a good win rest on your laurels think the next win will just come and get beaten a few times then loose confidence and direction get flogged for the rest of the season. How do you get this mentality out of the club. Has happened probably 9 out of the last 10 seasons like this. If Ronnie Fuller cant remove this noone can. At unley this week traditionally South will get done by over 10 goals this week. Lets see what they are made of. Sturt not travelling too well either and incredibly only 1 point from 8th to 3rd.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby nickname » Mon May 10, 2010 11:00 am

Blueandwhiteforever wrote:Certainly is disappointing Saintal and I agree with you. Not having the luck go our way at the moment against Port they had Cloke,Trengove and Clayton back and against West Lobbe, Pettigrew and Birss and we lost O'Keefe by the sounds of it. Three handy AFL inclusions against us both times which can make the difference. That's 4 quality players in there favour. Anyway what can you do they obviously have lost the flow, centre battles, getting first to ball, intensity and desire in last 2 weeks. Looks like the South of old. There seems to be a vicous cycle at South where they never get out of. Have a good win rest on your laurels think the next win will just come and get beaten a few times then loose confidence and direction get flogged for the rest of the season. How do you get this mentality out of the club. Has happened probably 9 out of the last 10 seasons like this. If Ronnie Fuller cant remove this noone can. At unley this week traditionally South will get done by over 10 goals this week. Lets see what they are made of. Sturt not travelling too well either and incredibly only 1 point from 8th to 3rd.


Lobbe was the only AFL inclusion for us. Pettigrew has been with us all year (as McKernan and Talia have been for you), and Birss is not an AFl player, and has played Reserves the last 2 weeks. In fact, we lost Harding and gained Lobbe so numerically there was no net gain at all.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby Sojourner » Mon May 10, 2010 11:17 am

Blueandwhiteforever wrote:Certainly is disappointing Saintal and I agree with you. Not having the luck go our way at the moment against Port they had Cloke,Trengove and Clayton back and against West Lobbe, Pettigrew and Birss and we lost O'Keefe by the sounds of it. Three handy AFL inclusions against us both times which can make the difference. That's 4 quality players in there favour. Anyway what can you do they obviously have lost the flow, centre battles, getting first to ball, intensity and desire in last 2 weeks. Looks like the South of old. There seems to be a vicous cycle at South where they never get out of. Have a good win rest on your laurels think the next win will just come and get beaten a few times then loose confidence and direction get flogged for the rest of the season. How do you get this mentality out of the club. Has happened probably 9 out of the last 10 seasons like this. If Ronnie Fuller cant remove this noone can. At unley this week traditionally South will get done by over 10 goals this week. Lets see what they are made of. Sturt not travelling too well either and incredibly only 1 point from 8th to 3rd.


Before we rush out to press the panic button, lets get some things in perspective. For a number of players in our team this is their seventh ever SANFL game, others like Perry are starting to cement a spot on the league list after having been reserves players and have increased their form to warrant inclusion, yet again lack match experience at this level. Both West and South have recruited well, yet South have focused their attention towards players aged between 19-21 as opposed to players like Briss and others who are older and far more experienced players. Its obvious we have gone this way to build the side from the ground up and their is no secret that we are the first year into a five year plan and I do think the club is going well, despite the losses when the entire plan is taken into account.

Expect at the end of this season to see several players cut from the club and other 19-21 yro recruits brought in to take their place. Fuller is going to turn our list over until it is right and I do think already we have seen some high quality players unearthed that will do well for the club going forward. South can and will improve against Sturt this week and I have a lot more confidence in this game than any game played in the last three years under the old regime of the club.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby bloods08 » Mon May 10, 2010 11:31 am

Sojourner wrote:
Blueandwhiteforever wrote:Certainly is disappointing Saintal and I agree with you. Not having the luck go our way at the moment against Port they had Cloke,Trengove and Clayton back and against West Lobbe, Pettigrew and Birss and we lost O'Keefe by the sounds of it. Three handy AFL inclusions against us both times which can make the difference. That's 4 quality players in there favour. Anyway what can you do they obviously have lost the flow, centre battles, getting first to ball, intensity and desire in last 2 weeks. Looks like the South of old. There seems to be a vicous cycle at South where they never get out of. Have a good win rest on your laurels think the next win will just come and get beaten a few times then loose confidence and direction get flogged for the rest of the season. How do you get this mentality out of the club. Has happened probably 9 out of the last 10 seasons like this. If Ronnie Fuller cant remove this noone can. At unley this week traditionally South will get done by over 10 goals this week. Lets see what they are made of. Sturt not travelling too well either and incredibly only 1 point from 8th to 3rd.


Before we rush out to press the panic button, lets get some things in perspective. For a number of players in our team this is their seventh ever SANFL game, others like Perry are starting to cement a spot on the league list after having been reserves players and have increased their form to warrant inclusion, yet again lack match experience at this level. Both West and South have recruited well, yet South have focused their attention towards players aged between 19-21 as opposed to players like Briss and others who are older and far more experienced players. Its obvious we have gone this way to build the side from the ground up and their is no secret that we are the first year into a five year plan and I do think the club is going well, despite the losses when the entire plan is taken into account.

Expect at the end of this season to see several players cut from the club and other 19-21 yro recruits brought in to take their place. Fuller is going to turn our list over until it is right and I do think already we have seen some high quality players unearthed that will do well for the club going forward. South can and will improve against Sturt this week and I have a lot more confidence in this game than any game played in the last three years under the old regime of the club.

Good post. This is exactly what Andy Collins did when he came to our club 3 years ago. South are definitely heading down the right path at the moment.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby human_torpedo » Mon May 10, 2010 11:34 am

Let me start by saying Ferret, you are complete moron. One of the most ridiculous posts I have seen in some time there.. Pull your head out of your Rear End (cleaned up for the moderators) mate..

South supporters, you must be expecting too be somewhat inconsistent this season. You have a new coach, basically a new side that has been put together this season, and a completely new culture at the club (from what i have heard). I have only seen you play 2 games this season (the wins against Norwood and the Eagles), and there are signs of definite improvement from the South of previous years in those 2 games. Yeh you lost too Port last week, but after a 5 day back up from an emotional stirring victory, I wasnt overly suprised. The character your lads showed at the Parade was very promising, and its those kind of performances you should be taking more out of, rather than the let-downs against Port and West. West arent a bad side, they are sitting third, North pumped you's because you have a lack of defensive size and they took advantage of that, no suprise there..

In Nick Liddle, you have one of, if not the, premier midfielder in the comp this year alongside Jimmy Allen from North. Cockshell is dominant in the ruck, he appears revitalised under Fuller. Mckernan and Talia are 2 young guns who will only improve, Talia especially. O'Keefe, Thewlis and are also pretty solid players moving forward.. Depth is an issue, but in the next season or 2, Ronnie will add too that depth by cunning recruiting, something he is known for..

All in all, stick by your side this year and ride the wave of up and down performances you are going too see.. You have more points this season than you did last season already, and there are signs that things are in the improve and heading in the right direction..
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby Blueandwhiteforever » Mon May 10, 2010 1:08 pm

Sojourner I really hope your right. I want to beleive in this and think Souths process is generally pretty good. It does not change the culture though. You must have to agree with this. How long will it be till this changes.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby Blueandwhiteforever » Mon May 10, 2010 1:32 pm

Nickname you cant compare McKernan and Talia against Lobbe and Pettigrew. Pettigrew is a tried and tested AFL player and Lobbe has had some recent AFL experience. McKernan played one or two games last year and Talia has played none and is fairly ordinary at the moment. I'm sure they will both improve. O'Keefe
is a very good player as well. Purely on ins and outs surely you can see you had the better deal out of it. Not to mention you have Willits,Ferguson and Ezard with AFL experience. What about all our other crow players which we never get Mckay, Van Berlo, Cook, Doughty that were all getting a game in last few years. Good luck to Westies they are playing some good footy by the sounds of it and good to see them on the up.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby nickname » Mon May 10, 2010 2:11 pm

Blueandwhiteforever wrote:Nickname you cant compare McKernan and Talia against Lobbe and Pettigrew. Pettigrew is a tried and tested AFL player and Lobbe has had some recent AFL experience. McKernan played one or two games last year and Talia has played none and is fairly ordinary at the moment. I'm sure they will both improve. O'Keefe
is a very good player as well. Purely on ins and outs surely you can see you had the better deal out of it. Not to mention you have Willits,Ferguson and Ezard with AFL experience. What about all our other crow players which we never get Mckay, Van Berlo, Cook, Doughty that were all getting a game in last few years. Good luck to Westies they are playing some good footy by the sounds of it and good to see them on the up.


You were talking about us getting a better deal with AFL players coming in against you. We had one come in and one go out from our previous side. it's hardly a hard luck story fpr South.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Mon May 10, 2010 3:46 pm

Can someone remind me who kicked 5 or so goals for South when they last won?
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby nickname » Mon May 10, 2010 4:14 pm

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:Can someone remind me who kicked 5 or so goals for South when they last won?


Exactly.
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Re: RD7 South v West Post Match Review

Postby southee » Mon May 10, 2010 8:28 pm

human_torpedo wrote:Let me start by saying Ferret, you are complete moron. One of the most ridiculous posts I have seen in some time there.. Pull your head out of your Rear End (cleaned up for the moderators) mate..

South supporters, you must be expecting too be somewhat inconsistent this season. You have a new coach, basically a new side that has been put together this season, and a completely new culture at the club (from what i have heard). I have only seen you play 2 games this season (the wins against Norwood and the Eagles), and there are signs of definite improvement from the South of previous years in those 2 games. Yeh you lost too Port last week, but after a 5 day back up from an emotional stirring victory, I wasnt overly suprised. The character your lads showed at the Parade was very promising, and its those kind of performances you should be taking more out of, rather than the let-downs against Port and West. West arent a bad side, they are sitting third, North pumped you's because you have a lack of defensive size and they took advantage of that, no suprise there..

In Nick Liddle, you have one of, if not the, premier midfielder in the comp this year alongside Jimmy Allen from North. Cockshell is dominant in the ruck, he appears revitalised under Fuller. Mckernan and Talia are 2 young guns who will only improve, Talia especially. O'Keefe, Thewlis and are also pretty solid players moving forward.. Depth is an issue, but in the next season or 2, Ronnie will add too that depth by cunning recruiting, something he is known for..

All in all, stick by your side this year and ride the wave of up and down performances you are going too see.. You have more points this season than you did last season already, and there are signs that things are in the improve and heading in the right direction..


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