attention mr shane harris & the sanfl

[Dutchy]

I'm more worried about how Norwood plays than how three men in white umpire the game.

A perspective that more footy supporters - across the spectrum - would do well to adopt.

Agree 100%, in all seriousness umpires get too much of the blame - hand on the heart when was the last time a footy match was genuinely decided by an unpiring decision?

Have a yell at the time but let it go, this discussion was around in 1930 and will be around in 50 years time...

[bayman]

dutchy, i'm not saying he won norwood the match, norwood did that very well for themselves, not to often at all that the umpires actually affect the outcome of a match although a grand final between these same sides does come to mind , however what i'm saying is this persons 'ability' to control the match especially in the 3rd term with ludicrous decisions was disgraceful, personally i think someone had a word to him at lemon time because he was less conspicuous in the final stanza last night, as you know i'm no wrap for tony dey as he seems to have no feel for the game yet he wasn't noticeable last night

[Reddeer]

There are too many umpires out there anyway. Try going back to a 2 umpire system and it will improve. Anyhow I didn't see last nights game but Harvey could not be any worse than that clown Deboy they also have running around. God help us tomorrow at Woodville. And I do speak from experience

[The Sleeping Giant]

Hopefully umpire Deboy takes Richard Harvey under his wing and teaches him a thing or two.

Deboy isn't much good either.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I'm more worried about how Norwood plays than how three men in white umpire the game.

A perspective that more footy supporters - across the spectrum - would do well to adopt.

Agree 100%, in all seriousness umpires get too much of the blame - hand on the heart when was the last time a footy match was genuinely decided by an unpiring decision?

Have a yell at the time but let it go, this discussion was around in 1930 and will be around in 50 years time...

The problem with the original posters quote is, he has had a whinge about umpires before, so don't take it too seriously.

[CUTTERMAN]

I think Bayman has made some good points and I'm glad a neutral supporter can have the same thoughts on the umpiring of a game. I can be reasonably impartial at a game when sturt is playing, if the umpiring is shit then it's shit. The difference is that if it's going your way it's amusingly baffling, if it's going against you then it's frustratingly baffling.
Umpiring is deplorable at the moment, deplorable!

[fester69]

Is he the umpire who in the 3rd qtr instructed the Strut player to play-on, even waving his hands in the air, then when Taylor Walker tackled the Strut player 25 metres was awarded against him??

Now doubt we got a few in the 2nd half, but we were crucified in the 1st half!

[Adelaide Hawk]

I'm more worried about how Norwood plays than how three men in white umpire the game.

A perspective that more footy supporters - across the spectrum - would do well to adopt.

Agree 100%, in all seriousness umpires get too much of the blame - hand on the heart when was the last time a footy match was genuinely decided by an unpiring decision?

Have a yell at the time but let it go, this discussion was around in 1930 and will be around in 50 years time...

Agree totally. Listening to supporters in the crowd, my own included, it is my consideration that most footy fans wouldn't have a clue what the rules are anyway. Some of the frees they scream for are just plain ridiculous.

At one stage yesterday, Gorringe had the ball, was tackled, and kicked the ball to Norwood's advantage. The Blues fans around me were screaming for holding the ball, even though he disposed of the ball the moment he was tackled!!

I think supporters of losing teams get frustrated with what's happening, don't want to blame their own players, can't accept the opposition is too good for them on the day, so they look for a scapegoat. Seriously, apart from very soft 25 metre penalties, and a couple of frees we got that were questionable, most of the frees against Sturt were resultant from undisciplined play ... but it's much easier to blame umpires isn't it?

[CUTTERMAN]

To use your example of Gorringe above is exactly where people get frustrated. That's fine if it's not holding the ball, the problem is when the opposition has the ball, gets tackled and disposes of the ball legally and is pinged holding the ball. If there's no consistency and it becomes glaringly obvious it's natural that punters are going to get angry.

[saintal]

The usual cr*p was served up at Alberton. Some bewildering and inconsistent calls today.

[71/72]

Nothing that determined the result.
The umpires are never gonna be popular especially with the supporters of the team that loses, its happens every week just deal with it, they are irritating at times and make mistakes just like the players.

[The Sleeping Giant]

The usual cr*p was served up at Alberton. Some bewildering and inconsistent calls today.

There was a great 30 secs when Thurgood wasn't paid an obvious mark, and within a minute Harder was awarded a mark that he shouldn't have been paid. You just got to laugh, and sums up what has been dished up as umpiring this year.

[Big Phil]

I heard from that during the game a Sturt player gave away a free kick to a Norwood player and had no problem in conceding this. The Sturt player had the ball and the umpire advised him to give the ball to the recipient of the free kick, his Norwood opponent.

The Sturt player in question advised the umpire at that point in time he couldn't give the ball back to the Norwood player at that very point in time because he had temporarily had his back turned to him, going back over his mark. The umpire then decided to instantly award Norwood with a 25m penalty because the Sturt player didn't return the ball when asked to !!??

Unbelievable if true...

[Adelaide Hawk]

Big Phil, if the umpire instructs you to throw it back and the player isn't looking, you still throw it back to him. If it hits him on the body, there's no 25 metre penalty. The player doesn't have to be looking.

[purch]

I heard from that during the game a Sturt player gave away a free kick to a Norwood player and had no problem in conceding this. The Sturt player had the ball and the umpire advised him to give the ball to the recipient of the free kick, his Norwood opponent.

The Sturt player in question advised the umpire at that point in time he couldn't give the ball back to the Norwood player at that very point in time because he had temporarily had his back turned to him, going back over his mark. The umpire then decided to instantly award Norwood with a 25m penalty because the Sturt player didn't return the ball when asked to !!??

Unbelievable if true...

Exactly the same thing happened last week at Hamra. From now on Blues just chuck it hard at the opponents back!

[purch]

Is he the umpire who in the 3rd qtr instructed the Strut player to play-on, even waving his hands in the air, then when Taylor Walker tackled the Strut player 25 metres was awarded against him??

That's the one fester. That decision was a disgrace.

[smithy]

Big Phil, if the umpire instructs you to throw it back and the player isn't looking, you still throw it back to him. If it hits him on the body, there's no 25 metre penalty. The player doesn't have to be looking.

How is the player expected to throw the ball back to the player and hit him on the body if his back is turned and can't see where the player is ?
If he just hurls it back over his head in hope and it lands anywhere it's a penalty also.

[bayman]

I'm more worried about how Norwood plays than how three men in white umpire the game.

A perspective that more footy supporters - across the spectrum - would do well to adopt.

Agree 100%, in all seriousness umpires get too much of the blame - hand on the heart when was the last time a footy match was genuinely decided by an unpiring decision?

Have a yell at the time but let it go, this discussion was around in 1930 and will be around in 50 years time...

The problem with the original posters quote is, he has had a whinge about umpires before, so don't take it too seriously.

i very rarely have a dig at umpires so get your facts right infact i've posted over the years that the sanfl umpiring is a lot better than the afl, however if that garbage i saw last night continues it'll be the other way round......as for todays game (port v south) a few blues were made but overall it was pretty good from the umpires imho

[The Sleeping Giant]

If I was having a crack at you, I would of quoted you. I actually don't take anything you post seriously because it's mostly pathetic whinging.

[bayman]

If I was having a crack at you, I would of quoted you. I actually don't take anything you post seriously because it's mostly pathetic whinging.

The problem with the original posters quote is, he has had a whinge about umpires before, so don't take it too seriously.


so who was the original poster ??

i actually find it amazing that snipers like you can pass judgements on games you weren't even at