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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby Barto » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:06 pm

What was the reason? His commitment in Darwin or the continual end of season whoring?
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby Barto » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:07 pm

Dog_ger wrote:He could finish his career with 5 consecutive premierships.... ;) :D



Luke Norman already said no, so that aint happening :D
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby Dirko » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:08 pm

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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby Barto » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:10 pm

If the Bays have set commitment standard for their pre-season, then fair enough.
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby dedja » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:19 pm

Barto wrote:If the Bays have set commitment standard for their pre-season, then fair enough.


Correctamundo ...
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby Thiele » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:32 pm

It will be sad to see Brett go. One of the players from the opsition players hand i would before and after the game
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby Big Phil » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:35 pm

Don't think this was posted on any other threads, but this was on the Messenger site last week...


http://guardian-messenger.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/backwell-clashes-with-tigers-over-ntfl-finals/


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Backwell clashes with Tigers over NTFL finals

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GOING NOWHERE: Glenelg is refusing to let Brett Backwell return to Darwin to play NTFL finals.

GLENELG is at loggerheads with midfielder Brett Backwell over his desire to play finals in the Northern Territory Football League.

Backwell, 29, has been playing for Waratahs in the NTFL this season and wants to return to Darwin to play in the club’s qualifying final on February 20.

But the Tigers are refusing to allow Backwell to return, insisting he stay in Adelaide to focus on preparing for the upcoming SANFL season.

Glenelg football operations manager Ken Applegarth said he was meeting with Backwell to discuss the situation on Monday.

``At the moment he won’t be going back up there,’’ he said.

``His obligations are with us. If he wasn’t contracted he could do what he liked but he’s got a one-year contract with us.

``It’s an important part of the year with trials coming up so we want him here.’’

Backwell has played four games for Waratahs this season and has been named in the club’s best players in every game, including two best-on-ground performances.

It is Backwell’s second stint in the NTFL, he previously played for Waratahs in the 2002-03 season.

Waratahs currently sits in fifth position on the NTFL ladder, which has a top five finals system.
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby milbo » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:35 pm

From what I hear Mouse was "training the house down" midweek. Was fully committed to playing for the GFC in 2010.

I dont understand how Chris Hall could come onboard late one year... another can quit and go Kayaking for a bit and decide he doesnt like it and wants back in once we made finals(Dan Kirk).... another bloke can go treking for 6 months and waltz back in just pre finals(Sam Rudolph)... yet a bloke who's only crime was to be playing a FOOTBALL FINAL rather than be on a club camp gets the chop....

I would have thought showing commitment and loyalty to your side was actually quite a valuable trait.

Im exceptionally disappointed that Mouse was placed in the position where he had to make a choice. The bloke was a shining light through our dark years. Mentored many a junior and was a terrific leader on the field. He was and is much loved by members. I would have thought for all his service that the club could actually cut him some slack. They cut him back to a one year reduce deal and he was allowed to go....

Its hypocritical considering decisions made by the GFC over recent years in similar cases.

I am very much hopeful this situation can be resolved as I truly believe Mouse deserved much much better.
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby dedja » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:42 pm

None of those situations relate to Mouse ... whilst sad it is absolutely the correct decision. No-one put him in that position other than himself.

A line in the sand has been drawn and decisions are being made that maybe some other clubs would balk at.

What can be guaranteed is that those playing for the Glenelg Football Club in 2010 and beyond are 100% committed to the cause ... and that's the way it should be.
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby maxyoz » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:45 pm

milbo wrote:From what I hear Mouse was "training the house down" midweek. Was fully committed to playing for the GFC in 2010.

I dont understand how Chris Hall could come onboard late one year... another can quit and go Kayaking for a bit and decide he doesnt like it and wants back in once we made finals(Dan Kirk).... another bloke can go treking for 6 months and waltz back in just pre finals(Sam Rudolph)... yet a bloke who's only crime was to be playing a FOOTBALL FINAL rather than be on a club camp gets the chop....

I would have thought showing commitment and loyalty to your side was actually quite a valuable trait.

Im exceptionally disappointed that Mouse was placed in the position where he had to make a choice. The bloke was a shining light through our dark years. Mentored many a junior and was a terrific leader on the field. He was and is much loved by members. I would have thought for all his service that the club could actually cut him some slack. They cut him back to a one year reduce deal and he was allowed to go....

Its hypocritical considering decisions made by the GFC over recent years in similar cases.

I am very much hopeful this situation can be resolved as I truly believe Mouse deserved much much better.


Some very valid points Milbo, well written.
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby Dutchy » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:02 pm

So has any of this been confirmed?

If true wouldnt it be funny if that legal action that was threatened was still pending? :lol:

What isnt funny is Mouse put the club in this position, personally Id let him go play in Darwin but then make him come thru the ressies and earn his spot back in the A's no matter how long that took, if he was committed to the cause he would be happy to do this...

My son has No. 2 on the back of his Glenelg jumper, he already was shattered there is no macca or Dogger this season, his 3 fav players all gone :(
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby Dutchy » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:06 pm

milbo wrote:From what I hear Mouse was "training the house down" midweek. Was fully committed to playing for the GFC in 2010.

I dont understand how Chris Hall could come onboard late one year... another can quit and go Kayaking for a bit and decide he doesnt like it and wants back in once we made finals(Dan Kirk).... another bloke can go treking for 6 months and waltz back in just pre finals(Sam Rudolph)... yet a bloke who's only crime was to be playing a FOOTBALL FINAL rather than be on a club camp gets the chop....

I would have thought showing commitment and loyalty to your side was actually quite a valuable trait.

Im exceptionally disappointed that Mouse was placed in the position where he had to make a choice. The bloke was a shining light through our dark years. Mentored many a junior and was a terrific leader on the field. He was and is much loved by members. I would have thought for all his service that the club could actually cut him some slack. They cut him back to a one year reduce deal and he was allowed to go....

Its hypocritical considering decisions made by the GFC over recent years in similar cases.

I am very much hopeful this situation can be resolved as I truly believe Mouse deserved much much better.


Without knowing I feel the club might now recognising mistakes made over the past couple of seasons and why we didnt win any silverware, attitudes have to change, and if decisions like this bring us a flag, Im more than happy to support the club on this one.

Answer this - Would Centrals allow this?
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby dedja » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:06 pm

If bayman has confirmed it then it's true ...
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby DOC » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:20 pm

wycbloods wrote:I have heard the same story about collins to be coaching at a prestigious college in melbourne next year.


I believe they have the same colours!
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby milbo » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:20 pm

I think Mouse actually confirmed it on 5AA.

I agree re standards and "culture" etc... I agree that a level of professionalism has to be set... but for years Ive been howled down that this is SANFL footy. Blokes have real jobs... have lives outside of football and that SANFL footy doesnt pay the mortgage. I have been told for years that its "different courses for different horses" in regards to how much training is done, how many times a bloke has to go to gym, if a bloke has to attend rehab and how much of the pre season a bloke has to do. I always argued that there should be a standard and that standard should never be compromised.

Listen to players though they made me very aware that with jobs ranging from Lawyers to Tradies that they cant make some sessions... they cant be there sometimes on time... they sometimes have to miss matches (Ben Moore so he wouldnt get injured just before his fire service physical exams, Lucas Block went to Perth for work last year). Why is this one match (where he aint exactly just sitting on his **** doing nothing) going to draw to a close the best player the GFC has recruited in the last 10 years. I saw him close up when he was injured. Doing everything he could to get over the line and convince the physios he could contribute. He's played with injuries other blokes wouldnt have even considered playing with.

I cant help but think there is WAY more to it than just mouse training all week at the GFC and flying up for a final.... it cant be that petty.
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby wycbloods » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:21 pm

DOC wrote:
wycbloods wrote:I have heard the same story about collins to be coaching at a prestigious college in melbourne next year.


I believe they have the same colours!


Interesting assumption :D ;)
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby Dutchy » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:28 pm

milbo wrote:I think Mouse actually confirmed it on 5AA.

I agree re standards and "culture" etc... I agree that a level of professionalism has to be set... but for years Ive been howled down that this is SANFL footy. Blokes have real jobs... have lives outside of football and that SANFL footy doesnt pay the mortgage. I have been told for years that its "different courses for different horses" in regards to how much training is done, how many times a bloke has to go to gym, if a bloke has to attend rehab and how much of the pre season a bloke has to do. I always argued that there should be a standard and that standard should never be compromised.

Listen to players though they made me very aware that with jobs ranging from Lawyers to Tradies that they cant make some sessions... they cant be there sometimes on time... they sometimes have to miss matches (Ben Moore so he wouldnt get injured just before his fire service physical exams, Lucas Block went to Perth for work last year). Why is this one match (where he aint exactly just sitting on his **** doing nothing) going to draw to a close the best player the GFC has recruited in the last 10 years. I saw him close up when he was injured. Doing everything he could to get over the line and convince the physios he could contribute. He's played with injuries other blokes wouldnt have even considered playing with.

I cant help but think there is WAY more to it than just mouse training all week at the GFC and flying up for a final.... it cant be that petty.


So what has playing in Darwin got to do with his job or making a living?
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby dedja » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:30 pm

Dutchy wrote:So what has playing in Darwin got to do with his job or making a living?


Free Barra maybe? :-??
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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby DOC » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:30 pm

wycbloods wrote:
DOC wrote:
wycbloods wrote:I have heard the same story about collins to be coaching at a prestigious college in melbourne next year.


I believe they have the same colours!


Interesting assumption :D ;)


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Re: did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby Dutchy » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:30 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:Didnt someone predict this last week and got the chop from the Mods?



Yes someone suggested it and no it didnt get the "chop from the mods"
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