Dont give up Port Adelaide members!

[TimmiesChin]

I really dont think the membership is the problem. The club, to my recollection, has always been in the top few in memberships over the past 3-4 years. We'll need 30,000 members to stay afloat going by some of the figures stated which would be more than just about every other club combined and wouldnt be sustainable. More sponsors and finding ways to cut expenditure is what it will come down to. Getting rid of the POW would be a start.

I disagree - getting rid of the POW would be the start of the end.

They need to have the POW paid off so that they have a clear revenue stream that isnt offset with interest payments. The club needs an asset base to generate income - pokies generate income.

Sponsors is important .... and members - however the income from members contributes the least to the bottom line.

Imagine though if we can wake the magpies fans that havent been 'supporters' over the past decade or so and can get ourselves to 10K members....

[JK]

I agree TC, the selling of your prime (and maybe only, Im not sure?) asset would be the real fatal blow (unless you could find something quickly to re-invest in that would provide substantial return, which I would highly doubt).

The Maggies have to find a way through the current hardship whilst retaining that asset.

[TimmiesChin]

I agree TC, the selling of your prime (and maybe only, Im not sure?) asset would be the real fatal blow (unless you could find something quickly to re-invest in that would provide substantial return, which I would highly doubt).

The Maggies have to find a way through the current hardship whilst retaining that asset.

Pretty sure its their only asset ... not sure if they own Ethelton - where the juniors train ?
Perhaps if they do they could look top move that on and train them somewhere else so they dont have to have that asset sitting around .... would leasing an oval work out better for them ?

[JK]

I agree TC, the selling of your prime (and maybe only, Im not sure?) asset would be the real fatal blow (unless you could find something quickly to re-invest in that would provide substantial return, which I would highly doubt).

The Maggies have to find a way through the current hardship whilst retaining that asset.

Pretty sure its their only asset ... not sure if they own Ethelton - where the juniors train ?
Perhaps if they do they could look top move that on and train them somewhere else so they dont have to have that asset sitting around .... would leasing an oval work out better for them ?

Im not sure of the costs involved mate .. Where is the current Magpies Admin housed these days?

[Wedgie]

I agree TC, the selling of your prime (and maybe only, Im not sure?) asset would be the real fatal blow (unless you could find something quickly to re-invest in that would provide substantial return, which I would highly doubt).

The Maggies have to find a way through the current hardship whilst retaining that asset.

Pretty sure its their only asset ... not sure if they own Ethelton - where the juniors train ?
Perhaps if they do they could look top move that on and train them somewhere else so they dont have to have that asset sitting around .... would leasing an oval work out better for them ?

Im not sure of the costs involved mate .. Where is the current Magpies Admin housed these days?

987 Port Rd, Cheltenham

[CUTTERMAN]

I agree TC, the selling of your prime (and maybe only, Im not sure?) asset would be the real fatal blow (unless you could find something quickly to re-invest in that would provide substantial return, which I would highly doubt).

The Maggies have to find a way through the current hardship whilst retaining that asset.

Pretty sure its their only asset ... not sure if they own Ethelton - where the juniors train ?
Perhaps if they do they could look top move that on and train them somewhere else so they dont have to have that asset sitting around .... would leasing an oval work out better for them ?

Im not sure of the costs involved mate .. Where is the current Magpies Admin housed these days?

I think it's on Pt rd, just near Maughn-Teim Ford, where old Pt rd and Pt rd meet.

[Bum Crack]

I'm getting a membership today. I absolutely hate Port Adelaide but the way I look at it, is if they fold, what other team are we all going to despise? As an opposition supporter, we all need a team to hate and for the majority, that team is Port. Imagine if you don't have that in the future? It just won't be the same. You know it makes sense.

[devilsadvocate]

I'm getting a membership today. I absolutely hate Port Adelaide but the way I look at it, is if they fold, what other team are we all going to despise? As an opposition supporter, we all need a team to hate and for the majority, that team is Port. Imagine if you don't have that in the future? It just won't be the same. You know it makes sense.

Well played.

One thing that's come out of all this is that Glenelg supporters aren't as bad as I once thought them to be!!

[Dirko]

I'm getting a membership today. I absolutely hate Port Adelaide but the way I look at it, is if they fold, what other team are we all going to despise? As an opposition supporter, we all need a team to hate and for the majority, that team is Port. Imagine if you don't have that in the future? It just won't be the same. You know it makes sense.

And you have/are getting a Glenelg membership too ?

[CUTTERMAN]

You know i would've thought about it, but the finger pointing, blaming, paranoid, blinkered, myopic attitude coming from Magpie supporters is just embarrassing. If there was a hint of reality, of a wider perspective I may have but there isn't, so no I wont.
Before you say it, I know you don't need or want my help, we'll do it on our own blah blah blah.
Well the fact is that you were asking for help and didn't want to do it on your own.

[JK]

Cheers Wedgie and Cutterman, I thought it was but just wondered ... If they do own Ethelton could they either sell that or move their admin their to reduce costs?

From memory Phil Carman trained the Sturt players virtually wherever he could back in the 90's and it didn't appear to set them back too much.

[Slots It Through]

I agree TC, the selling of your prime (and maybe only, Im not sure?) asset would be the real fatal blow (unless you could find something quickly to re-invest in that would provide substantial return, which I would highly doubt).

The Maggies have to find a way through the current hardship whilst retaining that asset.

Pretty sure its their only asset ... not sure if they own Ethelton - where the juniors train ?
Perhaps if they do they could look top move that on and train them somewhere else so they dont have to have that asset sitting around .... would leasing an oval work out better for them ?

Im not sure of the costs involved mate .. Where is the current Magpies Admin housed these days?

I think it's on Pt rd, just near Maughn-Teim Ford, where old Pt rd and Pt rd meet.

What they should do is move the admin to the top of the POW hotel. I understand there in an upstairs area, which could be utilised.

[devilsadvocate]

You know i would've thought about it, but the finger pointing, blaming, paranoid, blinkered, myopic attitude coming from Magpie supporters is just embarrassing. If there was a hint of reality, of a wider perspective I may have but there isn't, so no I wont.
Before you say it, I know you don't need or want my help, we'll do it on our own blah blah blah.
Well the fact is that you were asking for help and didn't want to do it on your own.

Blanket statements are so 1960's. Not all Port people are finger pointing. Many are accepting that the club has got it wrong. Many are looking at ways of moving forward.

I'm not too proud to ask for help. I don't think the club is either.

Just remember, there are strong rumours surrounding your club's viability at the moment - it may be you asking for help in the not too distant future....again.

[Bum Crack]

I'm getting a membership today. I absolutely hate Port Adelaide but the way I look at it, is if they fold, what other team are we all going to despise? As an opposition supporter, we all need a team to hate and for the majority, that team is Port. Imagine if you don't have that in the future? It just won't be the same. You know it makes sense.

And you have/are getting a Glenelg membership too ?

I don't actually barrack for any team in particular in the SANFL to be honest. I just hate Port and barrack for any team that plays them. Years ago, I supported West Torrens and when they finished, I didn't take on another team. Is that ok with you??

[Ronnie]

You know i would've thought about it, but the finger pointing, blaming, paranoid, blinkered, myopic attitude coming from Magpie supporters is just embarrassing. If there was a hint of reality, of a wider perspective I may have but there isn't, so no I wont.
Before you say it, I know you don't need or want my help, we'll do it on our own blah blah blah.
Well the fact is that you were asking for help and didn't want to do it on your own.

Blanket statements are so 1960's. Not all Port people are finger pointing. Many are accepting that the club has got it wrong. Many are looking at ways of moving forward.

I'm not too proud to ask for help. I don't think the club is either.

Just remember, there are strong rumours surrounding your club's viability at the moment - it may be you asking for help in the not too distant future....again.[/quote]

When was the last time they asked for help??????????

People like Tredrea are just being silly, like a petulant child that doesn't get it's way.

But i have great respect for Tim Ginever. No 'us and them' garbage, no rubbishing of people's integrity. Just interested in how to fix the problem so that the Maggies stay around.

[JK]

What they should do is move the admin to the top of the POW hotel. I understand there in an upstairs area, which could be utilised.

If they are able to get out of their lease on the current admin building, then you would imagine there's a saving of $50k+ pa right there ... I know that relocating the admin to the Oval wa one thing Norwood did to reduce their total overhead.

If the area you speak of is suitable that's a top suggestion SIT (although surely you would think the club has considered this before so I wonder if there's any obstacle(s) that prevent it?).

[devilsadvocate]

Just remember, there are strong rumours surrounding your club's viability at the moment - it may be you asking for help in the not too distant future....again.

When was the last time they asked for help??????????

People like Tredrea are just being silly, like a petulant child that doesn't get it's way.

But i have great respect for Tim Ginever. No 'us and them' garbage, no rubbishing of people's integrity. Just interested in how to fix the problem so that the Maggies stay around.

Facing financial difficulties in 1995, the board proposed a merger with North Adelaide. This was opposed by supporters who, along with former players, raised the required $250,000 in two weeks to keep the club in existence.

Your supporters got you out of with some hard work. Well done. But just gear up for round 2 is what I'm hearing.

There is a small minority of Port fans who are playing the 'us and them' card at the moment. Many others are looking into ways of getting us out this situation.

[devilsadvocate]

What they should do is move the admin to the top of the POW hotel. I understand there in an upstairs area, which could be utilised.

If they are able to get out of their lease on the current admin building, then you would imagine there's a saving of $50k+ pa right there ... I know that relocating the admin to the Oval wa one thing Norwood did to reduce their total overhead.

If the area you speak of is suitable that's a top suggestion SIT (although surely you would think the club has considered this before so I wonder if there's any obstacle(s) that prevent it?).

Great idea. But as you've said CP, surely there's a reason this hasn't happened already?

I could also boost income from the POW?

[sjt]

It is a setback for the PAFC, yet its not by any means the final round yet for the club despite the dire predictions that have been made in the media.

It is not a set-back at all. It is exactly the kick up the arse that we need to wake up to the fact that we don't actually have a god-given right to exist simply because we are Port Adelaide.

Now is the time to mobilise the latent supported base. Any attempts to do it prior to today's ruling were destined to fail as they would have received no support from the club as those in charge had been conned by the best bit of spin since Old Trafford in 1993.

I signed up today with my usual Portonian package, and one for my son. So did 230+ others.

Presumably those 230 didn't want to see their hard-earned going to the bastard-spawn either.

You sure you're not John Cahill ? He expressed similiar sensible views last night without the conspiracy theory excuses.

[Mr Beefy]

Pretty sure its their only asset ... not sure if they own Ethelton - where the juniors train ?
Perhaps if they do they could look top move that on and train them somewhere else so they dont have to have that asset sitting around .... would leasing an oval work out better for them ?[/quote]

Im not sure of the costs involved mate .. Where is the current Magpies Admin housed these days?[/quote]
I think it's on Pt rd, just near Maughn-Teim Ford, where old Pt rd and Pt rd meet.[/quote]

What they should do is move the admin to the top of the POW hotel. I understand there in an upstairs area, which could be utilised.[/quote]

I had this thought too. From memory (my family had the POW lease for a while in the 80s), i reckon there are about 10 rooms up stairs. Some are pretty small with just a bed in them. There are also some rooms downstairs. I think storage of merchandise, etc would be an issue, as would the cost of refitting the upstairs into office accommodation.