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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby Mr Irate » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:33 pm

am Bays wrote:
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Booney wrote:That truy is revolutionary thinking guys. I applaud the way you're gone and thought outside the square.

Bravo...BRAVO!


Make the most of it Booney......in 9 minutes you may no longer be pertinent to this site :shock:


Booney will always be pertinent to this site, maybe not so much on the SANFL page but on this yes.


Purely in jest my friend.....
"This windfall from the Adelaide Oval decision cannot be turned into a moment when the SANFL sells off the farm to underwrite its lazy league clubs."
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby UK Fan » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:35 pm

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gadj1976 wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:That's my concern with letting Port disappear. What next - when some other club can't subsidising itself with Pokies, they have to either merge or leave as well? The SANFL should be doing everything in it's power (pun) to ensure that the clubs stay afloat. Without the clubs, the SANFL dies too.


And sturt got how much as a handout from the SANFL when they were struggling !


That's my point. I've got NO problem with handouts to be honest - because the SANFL needs the history and tradition - that's what makes the competition it is.


That truy is revolutionary thinking guys. I applaud the way you're gone and thought outside the square.

Bravo...BRAVO!


Not down marching for the magpies Booney ???
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby Wedgie » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:37 pm

gadj1976 wrote:Something else to remember is that reducing from 9 team to 8, we will lose more than 1/9th of the supporter base completely. I can't see any Port supporter suddenly barracking for any other side.

I don't exactly know the machinations behind it all, but the SANFL would be derelict to let this happen to one of their clubs.

But with no bye you'd lose minimal crowd and clubs would pick up an extra 1/9th in a dividend from the Crows. Clubs would be easily better financially off.
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby UK Fan » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:44 pm

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gadj1976 wrote:Something else to remember is that reducing from 9 team to 8, we will lose more than 1/9th of the supporter base completely. I can't see any Port supporter suddenly barracking for any other side.

I don't exactly know the machinations behind it all, but the SANFL would be derelict to let this happen to one of their clubs.

But with no bye you'd lose minimal crowd and clubs would pick up an extra 1/9th in a dividend from the Crows. Clubs would be easily better financially off.


Plus all the extra recruiting area. Dont have to worry about when Power and Magpies clash in the SANFL fixture list.

Plus didnt the Advertiser run an article on other local clubs wanting to join the SANFL earlier in the year. Modbury/Tea Tree Gully or something I think it was. Worse case in a few years if the SANFL needs an extra club approach those guys. They'd last longer than 13 years like the Magpies have.
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby Mr Irate » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:45 pm

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gadj1976 wrote:Something else to remember is that reducing from 9 team to 8, we will lose more than 1/9th of the supporter base completely. I can't see any Port supporter suddenly barracking for any other side.

I don't exactly know the machinations behind it all, but the SANFL would be derelict to let this happen to one of their clubs.

But with no bye you'd lose minimal crowd and clubs would pick up an extra 1/9th in a dividend from the Crows. Clubs would be easily better financially off.


......and I was told today thats what the SANFL advised their clubs......this whole debate is about the ownership of a pub
"This windfall from the Adelaide Oval decision cannot be turned into a moment when the SANFL sells off the farm to underwrite its lazy league clubs."
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby NO-MERCY » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:46 pm

gadj1976 wrote:That's my concern with letting Port disappear. What next - when some other club can't subsidising itself with Pokies, they have to either merge or leave as well? The SANFL should be doing everything in it's power (pun) to ensure that the clubs stay afloat. Without the clubs, the SANFL dies too.


Look out Sturt as you'll be next.
North will probably jump at keeping them ( Sturt ) in the competition.
What will the SANFL do then when left with 7 teams bring the top 2 teams up from the SAAFL? :oops:
I'm hoping North are next to die but i think the SANFL will die anyway.
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby rod_rooster » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:56 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:That's my concern with letting Port disappear. What next - when some other club can't subsidising itself with Pokies, they have to either merge or leave as well? The SANFL should be doing everything in it's power (pun) to ensure that the clubs stay afloat. Without the clubs, the SANFL dies too.


Look out Sturt as you'll be next.
North will probably jump at keeping them ( Sturt ) in the competition.
What will the SANFL do then when left with 7 teams bring the top 2 teams up from the SAAFL? :oops:
I'm hoping North are next to die but i think the SANFL will die anyway.


All of the other clubs have the same views as North NM. Why the issue with North. At least they have been upfront and said what they think. Too bad for you anyway as North are probably the equal least likely to fold along with Central. The SANFL will not die either by the way.

Good luck to Port. I hope they can knuckle down and sort out their financial mess as North, Sturt, Norwood etc. have had to do by themselves. I sincerely hope they can do it and remain in the competition but given the defeatest attitudes i doubt they have the fortitude to do so.
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby eddie eagle » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:21 pm

Wedgie wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:Something else to remember is that reducing from 9 team to 8, we will lose more than 1/9th of the supporter base completely. I can't see any Port supporter suddenly barracking for any other side.

I don't exactly know the machinations behind it all, but the SANFL would be derelict to let this happen to one of their clubs.

But with no bye you'd lose minimal crowd and clubs would pick up an extra 1/9th in a dividend from the Crows. Clubs would be easily better financially off.


Absolutely, this would be around $56,000 based on last year distribution of $450K?
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby NO-MERCY » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:34 pm

eddie eagle wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:Something else to remember is that reducing from 9 team to 8, we will lose more than 1/9th of the supporter base completely. I can't see any Port supporter suddenly barracking for any other side.

I don't exactly know the machinations behind it all, but the SANFL would be derelict to let this happen to one of their clubs.

But with no bye you'd lose minimal crowd and clubs would pick up an extra 1/9th in a dividend from the Crows. Clubs would be easily better financially off.


Absolutely, this would be around $56,000 based on last year distribution of $450K?


Not if the AFL buy back the licences, which i hope they do. :lol:
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby Brad » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:36 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:That's my concern with letting Port disappear. What next - when some other club can't subsidising itself with Pokies, they have to either merge or leave as well? The SANFL should be doing everything in it's power (pun) to ensure that the clubs stay afloat. Without the clubs, the SANFL dies too.


Look out Sturt as you'll be next.
North will probably jump at keeping them ( Sturt ) in the competition.
What will the SANFL do then when left with 7 teams bring the top 2 teams up from the SAAFL? :oops:
I'm hoping North are next to die but i think the SANFL will die anyway.


NM why are you blaming North? the vote was 8-0.
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby hereselmo1 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:37 pm

Would the SANFL then have to pay PAFC back the license fee?
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby centrecirclelegend » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:40 pm

I still don't know who the real Port Adelaide are?

and it seems Russell Ebert doesn't know either!
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby UK Fan » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:46 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:
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gadj1976 wrote:Something else to remember is that reducing from 9 team to 8, we will lose more than 1/9th of the supporter base completely. I can't see any Port supporter suddenly barracking for any other side.

I don't exactly know the machinations behind it all, but the SANFL would be derelict to let this happen to one of their clubs.

But with no bye you'd lose minimal crowd and clubs would pick up an extra 1/9th in a dividend from the Crows. Clubs would be easily better financially off.


Absolutely, this would be around $56,000 based on last year distribution of $450K?


Not if the AFL buy back the licences, which i hope they do. :lol:


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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby Barto » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:53 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:Look out Sturt as you'll be next.
North will probably jump at keeping them ( Sturt ) in the competition.
What will the SANFL do then when left with 7 teams bring the top 2 teams up from the SAAFL? :oops:
I'm hoping North are next to die but i think the SANFL will die anyway.


Bitter much? The vote was about removing the restrictions on the Magpies working with an AFL club, nothing more, nothing less.

Perhaps the Magpies should've gone in with a business plan and asked the league to back it.

I'd expect better comments from you.
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby rod_rooster » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:55 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:
eddie eagle wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:Something else to remember is that reducing from 9 team to 8, we will lose more than 1/9th of the supporter base completely. I can't see any Port supporter suddenly barracking for any other side.

I don't exactly know the machinations behind it all, but the SANFL would be derelict to let this happen to one of their clubs.

But with no bye you'd lose minimal crowd and clubs would pick up an extra 1/9th in a dividend from the Crows. Clubs would be easily better financially off.


Absolutely, this would be around $56,000 based on last year distribution of $450K?


Not if the AFL buy back the licences, which i hope they do. :lol:


There is no way known the SANFL will sell the licences and if you think for a second the AFL could take them back you are having a lend of yourself. Legally it just ridiculous to even consider. Regardless, as if the AFL give a sh*t about this issue.
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby 85 WAS A GOOD YEAR » Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:04 am

rod_rooster wrote: Regardless, as if the AFL give a sh*t about this issue.

I dont think the rest of Australia does either. I missed all the news reports tonight, so watched Fox Sports News. Didn't rate a mention on air, or via snippets across the bottom of the screen.

Maybe it will be in the centre spread the Sunday Mail, in the Real Estate section (pubs) ](*,)
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby Barto » Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:50 am

rod_rooster wrote:There is no way known the SANFL will sell the licences and if you think for a second the AFL could take them back you are having a lend of yourself. Legally it just ridiculous to even consider. Regardless, as if the AFL give a sh*t about this issue.


They'd only give a shit as far as thinking that if the merger would've made the Power more profitable, then they'd look into. If they come to the same conclusion as the league directors then it's play on.
It's all the SANFL's fault.
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby 85 WAS A GOOD YEAR » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:30 am

I'm getting sick to death of this saga - mainly because the focus seems to be the continued linking of both Port Adelaide football teams. They are 2 teams, and 2 clubs. The Cornes Boys are AFL Port Adelaide players, never have been nor ever will be Magpies. Brendan Lade was a Panther not a Magpie. No wonder the SANFL Clubs voted against it. Maybe, just Maybe, they voted to keep the SANFL Magpies seperate to the AFL power to keep them seperate. Not to kill off the Magpies, but help them keep their own identity and independance. Let the AFL team sink or swim based upon its own capacity.
Let the Port Power supporters remain supporters of the AFL club. Admit that they not all PAM supporters. Admit these people do not want to put money into the bank which may end up benefitting the Magpies.
Why haven't the huge contingent of Magpies supporters out there that are so enraged about the demise of their SANFL club, put their hands in their pockets? I still know many people who call themselves PAM supporters who haven't paid membership to their club for years.
Sure there are the die-hards that have, but they're the Die-Hards. Where are all the people who watched them win all their SANFL Premierships, but aren't there anymore?

I keep hearing they have the largest supporter base, so where are these people, and where is their money. Why aren't the "old" supporters who dont want to see the SANFL club disappear put their money where their mouth is?

This is the group that should be targeted. ACTION ITEM PAM MARKETING PEOPLE: There are plenty of unfinancial members who are feeling emotional about the predicted demise. Find them
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby CUTTERMAN » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:25 am

well said
'PAFC don't want any advantages in the SANFL. It would only take away from any achievements we earned.'
Keith Thomas ABC 891 Radio, 21/6/14.
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Re: A SANFL without the Port Magpies.

Postby mick » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:35 am

85 WAS A GOOD YEAR wrote:I'm getting sick to death of this saga - mainly because the focus seems to be the continued linking of both Port Adelaide football teams. They are 2 teams, and 2 clubs. The Cornes Boys are AFL Port Adelaide players, never have been nor ever will be Magpies. Brendan Lade was a Panther not a Magpie. No wonder the SANFL Clubs voted against it. Maybe, just Maybe, they voted to keep the SANFL Magpies seperate to the AFL power to keep them seperate. Not to kill off the Magpies, but help them keep their own identity and independance. Let the AFL team sink or swim based upon its own capacity.
Let the Port Power supporters remain supporters of the AFL club. Admit that they not all PAM supporters. Admit these people do not want to put money into the bank which may end up benefitting the Magpies.
Why haven't the huge contingent of Magpies supporters out there that are so enraged about the demise of their SANFL club, put their hands in their pockets? I still know many people who call themselves PAM supporters who haven't paid membership to their club for years.
Sure there are the die-hards that have, but they're the Die-Hards. Where are all the people who watched them win all their SANFL Premierships, but aren't there anymore?

I keep hearing they have the largest supporter base, so where are these people, and where is their money. Why aren't the "old" supporters who dont want to see the SANFL club disappear put their money where their mouth is?

This is the group that should be targeted. ACTION ITEM PAM MARKETING PEOPLE: There are plenty of unfinancial members who are feeling emotional about the predicted demise. Find them



Great Post, where are all these mythical supporters? The PAMFC can be saved it needs EFFORT. I would be willing to make a donation, because I don't want to see PAMFC fold, but I want to see some level of passion and endeavour on their part to survive.
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