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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby bayman » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:58 pm

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Who does these days.

Where would McDermott be making these claims anyway because he's on holidays from 5AA currently.



he's actually doing the sports show with david wildy atm ;)
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Barto » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:20 am

am Bays wrote:Is this an omen...


This probably is..


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I think those clouds have a teal shade to them..
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby zipzap » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:33 am

GOLD Barto!
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Big Phil » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:17 am

Didn't seem to be too much of crisis for the Maggies last night, they had their office Christmas party at the Palais last night and were sitting behind the table I was having my Chrissie do on. Bob Clayton, Tony Bamford and Greg Edwards were there and they all they all seemed to enjoy plenty of food and drink and a few laughs. Tried to eves drop a couple of time ( ;) ) but couldn't hear anything from due to thr night club next door !!
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Voice » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:22 pm

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Jimmy wrote:love the avatar barto...can you send me the giles one :) or make a hassan one and i'll take that...the baby thing is old :)

Just photoshop a Blues guernsey onto the baby getting slapped; there would be no noticeable difference.

Or maybe change it to a Glenelg baby and a Central baby crying about transfer fees and player movements ;) :lol:
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Jimmy » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:54 am

Voice wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
Jimmy wrote:love the avatar barto...can you send me the giles one :) or make a hassan one and i'll take that...the baby thing is old :)

Just photoshop a Blues guernsey onto the baby getting slapped; there would be no noticeable difference.

Or maybe change it to a Glenelg baby and a Central baby crying about transfer fees and player movements ;) :lol:


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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Barto » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:25 am

So.. did "things come to a head" last week or was this another McDermott crapfest?
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Booney » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:40 pm

The Power,Magpies and SANFL meet on Wednesday.
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Big Phil » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:27 pm

Interesting article on thr Magpies situation on the Portside Messenger...

Heather Kennett @ Messenger Press wrote:
Port Magpies fight to survive

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REUNITING all Port Adelaide Football Club supporters back into the one team and securing a future in the SANFL beyond 2010 are behind a proposed merger of the Magpies and Power.

A joint delegation from both cash-strapped clubs is expected to plead their case this week with the boards of the other eight SANFL clubs, following discussions the club initiated with the Power in mid-September.

Magpies CEO Greg Edwards said a merger would see:

* the Magpies compete under the Port Adelaide Football Club banner in the SANFL, continue to use its country zone and youth development squad players and not become a Power Reserves side;

* share the same administration as the Power at Alberton to reduce costs;

* create extra revenue streams for both clubs by revamping the Magpies-owned Prince of Wales Hotel at Queenstown and a gaming venue at the Port Club at Alberton;

* the Magpies continue to train and use their existing equipment and facilities under the Fos Williams Family stand at Alberton Oval, and;

* a combination of different membership packages developed to cater for Magpies-only fans, Power-only fans, or both.

Mr Edwards said a decision had not been made about the guernsey, name or emblem the SANFL team would use if the proposal was approved.

“One option is for whole club to be one colour, another option is for the Magpies to maintain its guernsey and name,” he said.

“But it makes sense that the SANFL team could maintain Magpie roots and colours, but what we’re taking to the clubs are a number of different possibilities.”

Mr Edwards said the merger was the only option to ensure a Port Adelaide team remained in the SANFL.

“Barring a large windfall of income this is the only option to ensure a Port Adelaide team is present in the SANFL for the next 100 years,” he said.

He said the conditions attached to the formation of the new SANFL side in 1997 when Port Adelaide entered the AFL had contributed to its existing financial predicament.

The SANFL had stipulated the Magpies develop separate sponsorship, training and membership bases to ensure they did not benefit from being associated with a team in the national competition, he said.

However he was confident the merger would resolve the financial problems which have plagued both clubs in recent years.

“The key things the other clubs want to see is evidence of financial stability of the Power in the AFL they want to see evidence the reliance on SANFL money to the Port Adelaide Football Club (PAFC) will end.”

Power special projects manager Matthew Richardson said the merger would reunite the PAFC supporter base and allow the club to build extra commercial revenue streams.

“If we can combine the two clubs we have the opportunity to invest and upgrade the Prince of Wales so that over time we would improve the revenue from there,” he said.

In December the Power reported an end-of-year surplus of $1.57 million, although without cash injections from the SANFL and the AFL it would have recorded a trading deficit of $2.9 million.

The Magpies also needed an advance of its 2010 SANFL distribution to ease its cash-flow problems last December.

Mr Edwards said the club would report a loss of around $200,000 for last season, mirroring their financial deficit in 2008.

Members will have their chance to question the Magpies board about the merger at the club’s Annual General Meeting on January 28.

A decision is expected by February.
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Macca19 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:09 pm

For the PAMFC I think its a very good deal.

For the PAFC....im not too sure.

Cant see it getting done anyway.
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Mr66 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:33 pm

Off topic for the moment but is it the same Greg Edwards that played for Central in the early '80s?
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Wedgie » Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:48 pm

Mr66 wrote:Off topic for the moment but is it the same Greg Edwards that played for Central in the early '80s?

Yes mate, spent most of the decade at North coaching in various capacities and son plays at Richmond.
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby nickname » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:56 am

A 'decision' might not have been made but Port have told the Commission the SANFL side would be called Power and wear the Power jumper. It doesn't sound like a 'merger' to me. It's an AFL Reserves team by stealth.
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Barto » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:07 am

the formation of the new SANFL side in 1997


Uh oh.
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby doggies4eva » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:09 am

Based on the above article I can see no problems.

If the SANFL side has the same boundaries, club name and colours then the only change is sharing administrations to save costs which makes sense and sharing marketing which also makes sense.

I don't see this as an AFL reserves side by stealth just sensible business.
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Booney » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:23 am

As I had mentioned previously, all the merger will be off-field for financial reasons.

Although I hope the Magpie emblem / guernsey remain.
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby nickname » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:52 am

Booney wrote:As I had mentioned previously, all the merger will be off-field for financial reasons.

Although I hope the Magpie emblem / guernsey remain.


How is it all off-field if the SANFL side wears the Power jumper, is called Power and contains Power-drafted players from interstate?
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Hondo » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:09 am

nickname wrote:
Booney wrote:As I had mentioned previously, all the merger will be off-field for financial reasons.

Although I hope the Magpie emblem / guernsey remain.


How is it all off-field if the SANFL side wears the Power jumper, is called Power and contains Power-drafted players from interstate?


If it's one club off field then you'd have 1 guernsey for both to aid merchandise sales and stop any identity issues/debates/competitions. Makes sense to me from a strictly business POV but not sure if it's right from an emotional (tradition) POV.

Not that I think that the guernsey change in the SANFL will happen TBH.
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby zipzap » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:40 am

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How is it all off-field if the SANFL side ... contains Power-drafted players from interstate?


This isn't mentioned in the article and would be the telling factor for me and I would guess the SANFL clubs. Having the draftees playing in one SANFL club compromises the competition (though in some cases it would be tempting to remove the disruption caused by in-out draftees) but more ominously would see the Crows stepping up their push for a reserves team. Both of which must NEVER be allowed to happen - may as well roll over and call it the AFLSA now.

Although, based on that article at least, the merger doesn't necessarily seem such a ridiculous suggestion, trusting that the Magpies will do the right thing is another thing entirely.
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Re: Port Magpies Crisis

Postby Booney » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:53 am

nickname wrote:
Booney wrote:As I had mentioned previously, all the merger will be off-field for financial reasons.

Although I hope the Magpie emblem / guernsey remain.


How is it all off-field if the SANFL side wears the Power jumper, is called Power and contains Power-drafted players from interstate?


You didn't read the article, did you?
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