Adelaide Oval plan

[Bum Crack]

So does that mean the gate - superboxes... - Food 7 catering etc.. on AFL Matchdays go to the SANFL or is this split with the SACA.

What does the SACA give up?

What will happen to footy park - How can we keep a stadium that size and not use it. It will be a white elephant. How much will it cost to maintain a stadium that isnt being used.

It will be interesting to see the devil that is the detail.

I'm a long way from convinced it will benefit SANFL clubs.

AAMI Stadium has always been a white elephant.

[smac]

The SACA give up the stadium, a more than reasonable offer I would think. The new joint venture between SACA & SANFL will manage the stadium for the benefit of both cricket and footy. A pretty good result, I reckon.

[Blacky]

Yet another reason to vote for the Libs next election.

Another, i haven't seen one yet. .

Mike Rann is the other. I could go into dumb tram extensions, putting a hospital in the worst possible spot and stupid road works that achieve nothing but costs lots but that would be off topic.

1 reason is enough though.

the libs are even dumber they build oneway roads
plus you can vote for the libs if you want to its a free world
dont think they have any hope

[Wedgie]

Yet another reason to vote for the Libs next election.

Another, i haven't seen one yet. .

Mike Rann is the other. I could go into dumb tram extensions, putting a hospital in the worst possible spot and stupid road works that achieve nothing but costs lots but that would be off topic.

1 reason is enough though.

the libs are even dumber they build oneway roads
plus you can vote for the libs if you want to its a free world
dont think they have any hope

The one way road helps a lot more than moving a traffic jam 50 metres down the road, at least it moves it 10kms down the road. Admittedly its dumb but not half as dumb as most of the things the Labor govt has built. I did think Foley's comeback to the Libs when they opposed the road ontop of a road proposal was funny though when he said "at least it goes both ways!"

[rogernumber10]

Lets try and answer some questions:

Income split from the ground - Cricket retains the money for all cricket events. Footy retains the money for all footy events. Both organisations, for their events, get clean stadiums (signage), their own pourage rights, retain all reserved seating money, retain corporate box money and can buy tickets into the others events, if they are available, are all existing members of that event are already satisfied.
Income expenditure - Adelaide Oval control is handed over by the SACA to a new body, Stadium Management Authority, whose job it is to run the stadium and precinct, as well as attract other events (such as concerts). Any money from other events is split 50-50 between the two sports. The SMA is made up 4-4 of cricket and footy reps. Ian McLachlan initial chairman and Leigh Whicker is CEO
AAMI Stadium - Retained by SANFL as its key asset. Govt to assist with re-zoning some of the SANFL land around the ground so it can be commercially used for a long-term income stream for the SANFL and the nine clubs. Venue to become around a 15k venue, used for NAB Cup (when cricket using Adelaide Oval if Feb / March), Crows admin and training base and venue for some SANFL games).
SANFL club dividends - I can't answer that
What moves - All AFL premiership season matches once the stadium is completed, provided all conditions met. SANFL grand final also goes to the ground.
Funding - Govt removes the 100m AAMI Stadium as one part, uses the 200m for the tram spur as second part (that tram money now deferred to later date) and the other money I can't immediately remember. Feds govt will be asked for a contribution. Any contribution from Kate Ellis' budget reduces the SA govt commitment.
Does it happen - SACA, SANFL signed three weeks ago.

[Dogwatcher]

About as close to gospel as you could possibly get.
Thanks Rog.

[Barto]

IF it actually goes ahead. We've seen so many pie in the sky things from successive state governments.

Hopefully it isn't a complete balls up if they do get it off the ground.

[Wedgie]

Thanks Rog, sounds like a deal too good to resist for footy.

[Barto]

It does change things that Football Park is being downgraded to a smaller venue. You should hear talkback radio in Perth today, it's going into meltdown "rrrraaaar they've got TWO 50000 seat venues now, we've got shit rarrararar" etc.

[magpie in the 80's]

[magpie in the 80's]

[topsywaldron]

The SMA is made up 4-4 of cricket and footy reps.

Who gets the casting vote when it's tied?

SANFL club dividends - I can't answer that.

Worrying.

[scarlet pimpernel]

So SANFL matches are to be played at footy park. Does that mean less revenue for our clubs.

The only non negotiable item is that the SANFL have the majority control of the stadium, not just 50% of the management. Its the saca that is the problem. Let them play at murray bridge. If footy hosts a match every weekend most of the year, then the SANFL has to be the controlling body. Cricket only uses Adelaide oval 6 or 7 days a year ( 1 test match and 1 or 2 one day matches ), yet they still have 50% control. BAD DEAL !

I am no liberal supporter but surely what is needed is a fully enclosed, semi air-condititioned stadium in all capital cities. Then footy could be played 12 months a year, particulary at night through summer. How much revenue could be generated playing footy year round, especiallly television rights. Perhap that is why they are retaining footy park.

[lachlan]

Sounds like a great deal. Its like what they have in Melbournewhich is have dinner at Southbank & then walk to the footy.
The Adelaide Oval need to be used more.

[Big Phil]

From the SANFL web site...

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/1040/

AFL FOOTBALL AT ADELAIDE OVAL

The SANFL welcomes the decision of the South Australian Government to provide $450 million towards the redevelopment of Adelaide Oval into a 50,000 seat multi-purpose stadium capable of being the home of AFL football and cricket in this state.

This level of investment in a world class stadium for Australian football and cricket is unprecedented in Australia by a State Government and is a wonderful vote of confidence in the health and future of football and cricket in South Australia.

The SANFL has signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the SACA to progress this project which will enable major sporting events to be brought back to the city – something which the football supporters and the sporting public at large will appreciate.

The announcement by the Premier and Deputy Premier on behalf of the South Australian Government today is a vital first step in the process to bring the project to fruition and we now look forward to working through all of the matters covered by the Memorandum of Understanding.

As the body responsible for the promotion, development and administration of football in the State, the SANFL’s key objective has been to develop a project which secures the long-term future of the game at all levels - the SANFL clubs, the Adelaide and Port Adelaide Football Clubs and most importantly, the game at a community level throughout the State.

“This is clearly a very significant decision for the SANFL but one we will consider in the longer term interests of the game and its supporters,” Executive Commissioner Leigh Whicker said.

“We will continue to work in the best interests of football and the broader football community in South Australia as we work through the next steps with the SA Government, SACA and the AFL,” Mr Whicker said.

The SANFL and SACA, along with other key parties, must now work through various steps with their key stakeholders with a timeline for agreement set for July 1, 2010.

“Finally, the SANFL wishes to express its appreciation to the AFL for its efforts in facilitating the decision by the Government to fund the proposed redevelopment, the financial models, and discussions with SACA thus far.

“We repeat our thanks and appreciation to the Premier Mike Rann, Deputy Premier Kevin Foley and the Government for agreeing to provide the funds necessary to create a stadium in the inner city for the benefit of not only cricket and AFL football but also for all South Australians,” he said.

Mr Whicker will be the new CEO of the Stadium Management Authority (SMA) which will oversee the Adelaide Oval precinct. The chairman of the SACA, Mr Ian McLachlan, will be the inaugural chairman.



Leigh Whicker
Executive Commissioner
South Australian National Football League

[The Yetti]

Looks and sounds Terrific.
Why couldn't the SANFL and SACA have done this in the 1970's?

As per the MCG, the SACA members will want to be able to go to Footy Finals as part of their membership. One of a few roadblocks that will need to be overcome before it happens.

I do still remember, I think it was called Chowilla Dam ...A Dunstan election promise that never happened. and boy, could we have done with that!!!

[Voice]

So SANFL matches are to be played at footy park. Does that mean less revenue for our clubs.

The only non negotiable item is that the SANFL have the majority control of the stadium, not just 50% of the management. Its the saca that is the problem. Let them play at murray bridge. If footy hosts a match every weekend most of the year, then the SANFL has to be the controlling body. Cricket only uses Adelaide oval 6 or 7 days a year ( 1 test match and 1 or 2 one day matches ), yet they still have 50% control. BAD DEAL !

I am no liberal supporter but surely what is needed is a fully enclosed, semi air-condititioned stadium in all capital cities. Then footy could be played 12 months a year, particulary at night through summer. How much revenue could be generated playing footy year round, especiallly television rights. Perhap that is why they are retaining footy park.

Where did it say SANFL games are to be played at footy park. The only reference I saw to SANFL matches was that the GF would be played at Adelaide Oval.

Also, the SACA use the oval many more days then 7 a year. The Redbacks play there and altough the Sheffield Shield games attract bugger all in crowds, the 20/20 state games get quite large crowds, up around 10,000 I think and the 50 over games don't do to bad. Here's a list of how much they use it:

3 mobile Test Series, Australia v West Indies
04 Dec 2009
.
Women's Twenty20 - SA v QLD
11 Dec 2009
.
Women's National Cricket League - SA v QLD
12 Dec 2009
.
Women's National Cricket League - SA v QLD
13 Dec 2009
.
Weet-Bix Sheffield Shield - SA v WA (18-21 Dec 09)
18 Dec 2009
.
KFC Twenty20 Big Bash - SA v QLD
03 Jan 2010
.
KFC Twenty20 Big Bash - SA v VIC
07 Jan 2010
.
Women's Twenty20 - SA v VIC
07 Jan 2010
.
Women's National Cricket League - SA v VIC
08 Jan 2010
.
Women's National Cricket League - SA v VIC
09 Jan 2010
.
KFC Twenty20 Big Bash - SA v TAS
12 Jan 2010
.
Commonwealth Bank Series, Australia v Pakistan
26 Jan 2010
.
Ford Ranger Cup - SA v WA
30 Jan 2010
.
Futures League SA v WA
02 Feb 2010
.
Commonwealth Bank Series, Australia v West Indies
09 Feb 2010
.
Rose Bowl - Australia v New Zealand
10 Feb 2010
.
Rose Bowl - Australia v New Zealand
11 Feb 2010
.
Weet-Bix Sheffield Shield - SA v NSW (19-22 Feb 10)
19 Feb 2010
.
Ford Ranger Cup - SA v NSW

[rogernumber10]

The agreement legislates for the periods that footy has first control of the stadium for use - early March to MId October - and the same for when cricket has first use - mid-October to early March

[whufc]

Our number plates should read..........................
SA, the state of artists impressions

Ill believe this one when the umpire bounces the ball to begin the first AFL game there.

[rod_rooster]

The agreement legislates for the periods that footy has first control of the stadium for use - early March to MId October - and the same for when cricket has first use - mid-October to early March

That will work out pretty poorly if and when SA earn the right to host a shield final.