RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby Jimmy » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:49 pm

The Apostle AK wrote:
Jimmy wrote:also great to hear the dogs fans letting off fire works in a public area...really smart idea. :roll:


Don't worry Jimmy...we're saving all the flares and smoke bombs for the finals...


great, just what your club needs...idiots who plan! :shock:
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby Grahaml » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:22 am

The funny thing is everyone gets so upset when flares get set off etc, yet I don't remember someone getting hurt because of anything like that. I don't see the interest personally, but I also don't think it's quite so serious as people like to make it out to be.

Oh, and for the record I don't think what the dogs do is flood. We rarely play a loose man in defense even, but what we do is work harder than the opposition at getting back to help the defense. If the other team are too slow to move the ball that we've clogged up the space then bad luck. That's why you'll see us working hard as we can to make space and move the ball quickly. Only way to beat a team keen to get back and fill space is get the ball there quicker. No secret. Just Sturt are used to it being easier at a little oval IMHO.

Funny how someone thinks it's lucky I'm not on the tribunal. At least I would have seen the incident. Sounds like you just rely on third hand information!
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby smithy » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:31 am

Grahaml wrote:The funny thing is everyone gets so upset when flares get set off etc, yet I don't remember someone getting hurt because of anything like that. I don't see the interest personally, but I also don't think it's quite so serious as people like to make it out to be..

They just don't belong Grahaml.
Someone may not have got hurt yet, but if you've been around flares (not the jeans) you'd know their is good potential for it.

Grahaml wrote:Funny how someone thinks it's lucky I'm not on the tribunal. At least I would have seen the incident. Sounds like you just rely on third hand information!

He wasn't at the game and did say it was according to radio.
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:40 am

Grahaml wrote:Oh, and for the record I don't think what the dogs do is flood. We rarely play a loose man in defense even, but what we do is work harder than the opposition at getting back to help the defense. If the other team are too slow to move the ball that we've clogged up the space then bad luck. That's why you'll see us working hard as we can to make space and move the ball quickly. Only way to beat a team keen to get back and fill space is get the ball there quicker. No secret. Just Sturt are used to it being easier at a little oval IMHO.


Every team in the comp floods when it is needed. It is just that the Dogs don't need to employ that tactic as often.
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:45 am

Grahaml wrote:The funny thing is everyone gets so upset when flares get set off etc, yet I don't remember someone getting hurt because of anything like that. I don't see the interest personally, but I also don't think it's quite so serious as people like to make it out to be.



Maybe the reason people get upset is that flares are supposed to be used as safety device in emergency situations, not as a device to celebrate the fact that a certain supporter group are a pack of 'tards. Just speculation though. ;)
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby Whitelinefever » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:29 am

In due respect that post by csbowes earlier in the thread wreaked of ignorance and arrogance.
Firstly by calling the Eagles Torrens and secondly by saying Sturt are around the mark with the other top teams.
The FACT is you got beat by the Dogs by about the same sort of margin and in a similar manor as all the teams that have visited the ponderosa this year,looked no different to be honest,maybe had more of the ball but wasted it with poor skill and indirect footy,been to all the home games and seen all comers and YOU werent that bloody good mate,sorry to burst your bubble.
And we arent setting the world on fire ourselves, and from what Ive seen so far it looks to be a race between the Bays,Dogs and Eagles,with Sturt hitting bad form and self doubt at the wrong time unfortunately for them.
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby csbowes » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:32 am

dedja wrote:Just some quick observations.

1. well done Central
2. Sturt, whilst still right up there, must have some real self doubts now
3. top spot isn't as important as some people seem to think
4. the proper name for the Eagles is the Woodville West Torrens Football Club

If they do, I'd be disappointed. I don't have any doubt at all we can knock the Doggies out of the finals. Should have, would have, could have last year, no reason to think we can't actually finish it off this year. Looking back over the 2000-2008 seasons, we've played Central three times in finals for two close losses and a convincing win. We've had a mixture of being knocked out in close Elimination Finals or running into Torrens and being knocked out by them, a real hoodoo team for us most seasons.

... now Glenelg, that's a different story, I don't have confidence about knocking them out.
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby csbowes » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:37 am

Whitelinefever wrote:In due respect that post by csbowes earlier in the thread wreaked of ignorance and arrogance.
Firstly by calling the Eagles Torrens and secondly by saying Sturt are around the mark with the other top teams.
The FACT is you got beat by the Dogs by about the same sort of margin and in a similar manor as all the teams that have visited the ponderosa this year,looked no different to be honest,maybe had more of the ball but wasted it with poor skill and indirect footy,been to all the home games and seen all comers and YOU werent that bloody good mate,sorry to burst your bubble.
And we arent setting the world on fire ourselves, and from what Ive seen so far it looks to be a race between the Bays,Dogs and Eagles,with Sturt hitting bad form and self doubt at the wrong time unfortunately for them.
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As someone who went to Woodville matches every week or two in the past... I'll call them Torrens if I wish. The merger was a complete farce and almost no heritage of that club remains. The Eagles are the Woodville-West Torrens FC if you want to get picky... so in that respect, I used more of the official name in my reference than you did.

As for your view on how Sturt played, each to their own, its all about opinions. There'll be plenty of Central and Sturt fans who thought Sturt were rubbish tonight or vice versa, that's what makes football discussions. As for the margin comment, we beat you at Unley by about the same margin as we thrash South, so using your own analogy, you must believe you're about as good as them.

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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby EasyE » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:39 am

If we can move along from the never ending moaning about flares/fireworks........

How good was 'Buckets' Mackenzie tonight? I seem to recall a few Sturt supporters on here questioning his fitness and conditioning after the Unley game earlier in the season, yet the way he carried the ruck after Griffin's injury was amazing for me. 110Kg of Heart if the budget is accurate!

And if i was a Sturt supporter and was coming off consecutive losses to the first and second placed clubs leading into the finals, i'd be slightly concerned. But hey, that's just me............... ;)
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby Brucetiki » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:42 am

The game itself it was a very scrappy game that we started off well, had a lull around half time, then came back and kicked the last 6 goals of the game (keeping Sturt goalless with the breeze in the last quarter). The crowd was right in it tonight as well, and whilst the atmosphere is always excellent at Hamra Homes Oval, when Callinan kicked the first goal in the last quarter, I've never seen a home crowd that excited in a minor round game!

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Tony Dey's disgraceful umpiring tonight. To be honest, Pfeiffer and Hardham weren't that bad, but Tony Dey was Sturt's best player. The amount of frees he failed to pay Centrals combined with some absolute howlers he did pay for Sturt was diabolical. Tony Dey was a disgrace tonight. I don't think I've ever seen the umpires booed as they re-enter the ground at the end of half-time before, which happened tonight.
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby csbowes » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:42 am

EasyE wrote:If we can move along from the never ending moaning about flares/fireworks........

How good was 'Buckets' Mackenzie tonight? I seem to recall a few Sturt supporters on here questioning his fitness and conditioning after the Unley game earlier in the season, yet the way he carried the ruck after Griffin's injury was amazing for me. 110Kg of Heart if the budget is accurate!

And if i was a Sturt supporter and was coming off consecutive losses to the first and second placed clubs leading into the finals, i'd be slightly concerned. But hey, that's just me............... ;)

Ahh but we're a tough lot... remember we "won" eight spoons in a row, so a couple of losses is water off a ducks back! :-)

As for Mackenzie, I gotta say, I love having a go at that guy, but truth be told, the man has a heart like Phar Lap, he whips players who should have a massive cardiovascular advantage over him. For me, he epitomises what Central are about and that's non-stop effort and a determination to put one over the loud mouthed opposition supporters and the teams they support. I can't accurately adjudicate on his effort tonight, since I was mainly watching our guys, but I can probably safely say he's going to be a pivotal player come finals time, he did us over well and good in last years QF.
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby csbowes » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:49 am

Brucetiki wrote:The game itself it was a very scrappy game that we started off well, had a lull around half time, then came back and kicked the last 6 goals of the game (keeping Sturt goalless with the breeze in the last quarter). The crowd was right in it tonight as well, and whilst the atmosphere is always excellent at Hamra Homes Oval, when Callinan kicked the first goal in the last quarter, I've never seen a home crowd that excited in a minor round game!

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Tony Dey's disgraceful umpiring tonight. To be honest, Pfeiffer and Hardham weren't that bad, but Tony Dey was Sturt's best player. The amount of frees he failed to pay Centrals combined with some absolute howlers he did pay for Sturt was diabolical. Tony Dey was a disgrace tonight. I don't think I've ever seen the umpires booed as they re-enter the ground at the end of half-time before, which happened tonight.

I didn't think much of the umpiring either. To be fair, I thought both sides copped good and bad decisions...
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby csbowes » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:50 am

Can any Doggies fans comment on the lights tonight? It seemed somewhat dim tonight?
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby Brucetiki » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:03 am

csbowes wrote:Can any Doggies fans comment on the lights tonight? It seemed somewhat dim tonight?


I didn't think they were any dimmer/brighter than what I've normally experienced. They're still alot better than the 'lights' at Coopers Stadium.
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby Brucetiki » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:04 am

Also, for the second time in three seasons, Centrals go undefeated all season at home
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby Whitelinefever » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:06 am

My friend,thats not my analogy at all,comparing us to South who have finished on the bottom is ridiculous,you have lost to the 2 teams in the top 3 in consecutive weeks leading into the finals,a win in June by some record margin means little now,reeeelaxxxed ..well yes I am after seeing what i saw tonight.
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby csbowes » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:12 am

Whitelinefever wrote:My friend,thats not my analogy at all,comparing us to South who have finished on the bottom is ridiculous,you have lost to the 2 teams in the top 3 in consecutive weeks leading into the finals,a win in June by some record margin means little now,reeeelaxxxed ..well yes I am after seeing what i saw tonight.
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Oh well maybe I misunderstood your drift... but you won't get any argument out of me... a win in June is good, a win in August is better, the win in a fortnight between our two teams will set the scene.

If Centrals beat us, then I think its 3rd place for Sturt again... if we beat you, then I think things open up a bit...
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby NFC » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:16 am

Brucetiki wrote:
csbowes wrote:Can any Doggies fans comment on the lights tonight? It seemed somewhat dim tonight?


I didn't think they were any dimmer/brighter than what I've normally experienced. They're still alot better than the 'lights' at Coopers Stadium.

:lol: Yeah, good one.
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:47 am

Well done to the doggies at home, for me it wasn't unexpected but we were around the mark. So next week for getting a solid base for finals and then hopefully a better finals campaign and a GF.
As for the flares banter. If you want to let that crap off then maybe join the Melb Victory crowd and burn some of the pitch, hold up the game and all that sort of sporting shit. It's Aussie Rules and **** off with your UK/EURO tripe.
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Re: RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

Postby Dogwatcher » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:44 am

I wonder how the fireworks went off at a certain wedding when the final scores came through last night?

Congrats BP. A wedding and a win. Is it a win win situation??? Any married blokes want to comment? ;)
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