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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby dedja » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:31 pm

While both sides have had questionable form going into this clash (and somehow only losing a game here and there), this match is a perfect opportunity for both sides to break out of that routine.

I don't subscribe to the playing for top spot or premiership favourite mentality so in my mind those issues are irrelevant.

For one, call me dumb and stupid (yes, open invitation), but I'd rather come through qualifying final with a win going into the 2nd-semi ... so to me top spot is a false economy. The treasure is the coverted double chance.

Also, what does the term premiership favourite mean? ... well, actually nothing, because its a term that people have made up to make them feel good about their team. Even when you are contemplating who will win on the eve of a GF, there is no such thing as a premiership favourite, let alone sometime much earlier in the season when you don't even know who will playing in the game.

So, after all that, what does this game mean to both teams ... not a hell of a lot in the big scheme of things, but more so for the Bays than the Doggies I feel. The Bays will want to have a win to restore some confidence as the the last 4 outings against the Doggies have been dismal. It also allows both teams to refine their gameplan to assist in the leadup to the finals, where you would expect these teams to meet somewhere in the series.

A hard one to pick though ... something for later in the week.
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby CENTURION » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:17 pm

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dogs01 wrote:I think that if the dogs play like the 3rd quarter yesterday, they win.
The dogs play like the last, they lose. Simple as that.


dogs, would the strong breeze have been an influence in that though ?

breeze? what strong breeze?
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby CENTURION » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:19 pm

dedja wrote:While both sides have had questionable form going into this clash (and somehow only losing a game here and there), this match is a perfect opportunity for both sides to break out of that routine.

I don't subscribe to the playing for top spot or premiership favourite mentality so in my mind those issues are irrelevant.

For one, call me dumb and stupid (yes, open invitation), but I'd rather come through qualifying final with a win going into the 2nd-semi ... so to me top spot is a false economy. The treasure is the coverted double chance.

Also, what does the term premiership favourite mean? ... well, actually nothing, because its a term that people have made up to make them feel good about their team. Even when you are contemplating who will win on the eve of a GF, there is no such thing as a premiership favourite, let alone sometime much earlier in the season when you don't even know who will playing in the game.

So, after all that, what does this game mean to both teams ... not a hell of a lot in the big scheme of things, but more so for the Bays than the Doggies I feel. The Bays will want to have a win to restore some confidence as the the last 4 outings against the Doggies have been dismal. It also allows both teams to refine their gameplan to assist in the leadup to the finals, where you would expect these teams to meet somewhere in the series.

A hard one to pick though ... something for later in the week.

BUT We need to win, or We will drop to 3rd, would rather get the Minor Premiership, more rest seems to be beneficial, especially to slower, older bodies, hey Todd!
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby bayman » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:33 pm

CENTURION wrote:
bayman wrote:
dogs01 wrote:I think that if the dogs play like the 3rd quarter yesterday, they win.
The dogs play like the last, they lose. Simple as that.


dogs, would the strong breeze have been an influence in that though ?

breeze? what strong breeze?



well i wasn't there, i'm only going on what one of the guys on the radio said & whoever it was said it was a very strong breeze.....agree though the wind doesn't make you get (or not get) the ball
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Re: Bays V's Centrals Preview

Postby harley d » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:10 pm

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CENTURION wrote:We are playing some garbage footy at present, at this stage probably won't get within 12 goals.


Yeah well we're playing rubbish footy so probably won't get within 13 goals... ;)

Seriously this game will be but a battle as part of war that potentially has another two battles after this one to fight out, so despite the outcome no team will come out with a definative advantage come 4:30 pm next Saturday - well certainly not us anyway, IMO.

Should be a beauty despite both teams upping their mid-week preparations for finals.

From a Glenelg perspective looking for some improvement with our forward entries and finishing in front of goals. if we do that we might be in a chance. Hopefully our midfield can show the same intensity agaisnt Sturt, West and Port agaisnt the likes of Thomas, Dutchke and the Gowans the benchmark of the competition in midfield workrate.



I would have thought it would be advantageous to win ? Top spot settled for the bays or the dogs closer to top. Plus the added incentive of having the confidence next time the sides meet. Plenty on offer .
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby Big Phil » Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:02 pm

I think this game will be a real test for both sides who are coming off some recent indifferent form....

Hopefully with some good weather during the week, the Bay oval dries up a little bit and we have good weather for Saturday to help make a good spectacle and with crowd numbers.

Ian Callinan will be a handy addition for the Dogs if he has recovered from his hammy issue while John Hinge's possible season ending ankle injury is of course a blow to the Tigers.

Think the Dogs defence is strengthened with the return of Cochrane and Sibenaler which will help counter a potent (but sometimes innaccurate) Bays forward line.

The battles in the midfield will be intruiging with the likes of Slade v Block, Fisher v Thomas, Gowans v Allen, Dutschke v Carr will be well worth the price of admission alone.

In particular, looking forward to the Schell v Mules/Mills and Grima v Sibenaler match ups, could determine the outcome of the game possibly...

Good test for both sides but at this early stage, I think the homeside may just get up in a tight one by under 3 goals...

Congratulations also to the Central Districts Football Club for their 1000th game of league football in the SANFL...
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby dedja » Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:06 pm

Big Phil wrote:Hopefully with some good weather during the week, the Bay oval dries up a little bit ...


I'm afraid the centre square will be a bog.
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby Pottsy » Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:08 pm

A bog it probably will be.

I'm not a fan of dodging the square and having a ball up at the edge of the bog instead though.

I mean who wouldn't want to see a bunch of blokes having a good hard wrestle in the mud.....err......

It should be a cracker of a game with any luck - two good teams out of a bit of form with a lot to play for? I'll be down under the crash repair sign with bells on.
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby Dutchy » Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:15 pm

dedja wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Hopefully with some good weather during the week, the Bay oval dries up a little bit ...


I'm afraid the centre square will be a bog.


To be fair though the rest of the oval was in good nick yesterday, so Im a little confised by BP's post...
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby dedja » Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:18 pm

Dutchy wrote:
dedja wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Hopefully with some good weather during the week, the Bay oval dries up a little bit ...


I'm afraid the centre square will be a bog.


To be fair though the rest of the oval was in good nick yesterday ...


True, I should have qualified that as well.
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby The Apostle » Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:46 am

baysman wrote:1. Can/ Will the Bays kick straight ?
2. Will the Dogs bury the Tigers yet again, and put a mental nail in the coffin to the Bays flag hopes ?
3. Will Glenelg respond to last week's poor performance to beat Centrals at home, and give themselves some much needed confidence playing the Premiership favourites.
4. Will the Gowans go out and do the " knuckler " routine, forcing the Bays to become rattled.
5. Will the crowd exceed 8000 ?

1. Yes. Can't get any worse.
2. No. I know plenty of money has been put on Centrals to win the flag this year (way too short for my liking), the Dogs are massively overrated this year. With the exception of the Anzac Day match and the odd quarter here and there, Centrals hasn't gotten outta first gear at all this year. Glenelg easily by 4-6 goals. (I'm willing to put money on it.)
3. Yes.
4. I hope so.
5. Depends. Glenelg has the 2nd biggest bandwagon in the league (after attending the 2002 G.F. Sturt is definitely 1st...), If they aren't on the bandwagon now next week they will be...
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby redwhiteandblueblooded » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:19 am

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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby doggies4eva » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:50 am

dedja wrote:While both sides have had questionable form going into this clash (and somehow only losing a game here and there), this match is a perfect opportunity for both sides to break out of that routine.

I don't subscribe to the playing for top spot or premiership favourite mentality so in my mind those issues are irrelevant.

For one, call me dumb and stupid (yes, open invitation), but I'd rather come through qualifying final with a win going into the 2nd-semi ... so to me top spot is a false economy. The treasure is the coverted double chance.

Also, what does the term premiership favourite mean? ... well, actually nothing, because its a term that people have made up to make them feel good about their team. Even when you are contemplating who will win on the eve of a GF, there is no such thing as a premiership favourite, let alone sometime much earlier in the season when you don't even know who will playing in the game.

So, after all that, what does this game mean to both teams ... not a hell of a lot in the big scheme of things, but more so for the Bays than the Doggies I feel. The Bays will want to have a win to restore some confidence as the the last 4 outings against the Doggies have been dismal. It also allows both teams to refine their gameplan to assist in the leadup to the finals, where you would expect these teams to meet somewhere in the series.

A hard one to pick though ... something for later in the week.


I was thinking the same thing - about the benefit of top spot. If you finish top you get a rest and 1 win gets you to a GF but that means you have had only 1 game in the orevious 3 weeks. Our side is still unsettled and may be better for an extra finals game. having said that you don't want to lose a game at any time :?
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby MST » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:36 am

The Apostle AK wrote:
baysman wrote:1. Can/ Will the Bays kick straight ?
2. Will the Dogs bury the Tigers yet again, and put a mental nail in the coffin to the Bays flag hopes ?
3. Will Glenelg respond to last week's poor performance to beat Centrals at home, and give themselves some much needed confidence playing the Premiership favourites.
4. Will the Gowans go out and do the " knuckler " routine, forcing the Bays to become rattled.
5. Will the crowd exceed 8000 ?

1. Yes. Can't get any worse.
2. No. I know plenty of money has been put on Centrals to win the flag this year (way too short for my liking), the Dogs are massively overrated this year. With the exception of the Anzac Day match and the odd quarter here and there, Centrals hasn't gotten outta first gear at all this year. Glenelg easily by 4-6 goals. (I'm willing to put money on it.)
3. Yes.
4. I hope so.
5. Depends. Glenelg has the 2nd biggest bandwagon in the league (after attending the 2002 G.F. Sturt is definitely 1st...), If they aren't on the bandwagon now next week they will be...


Considering a fair percentage of Central Districts' supporter base weren't aware the SANFL even existed before 1995, that's a pretty silly thing to say buddy. (apologies to the likes of BP, Centurion and co who have obviously followed the Dogs for many a year).

Should be a cracking game. I think Bayman suggested earlier if the weather is good this game could match the attendance of the Bays v Sturt encounter in 08....I can't see that happening but I would think 6,000+ would be a pretty good turnout.
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby doggies4eva » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:48 am

MST wrote:
The Apostle AK wrote:
baysman wrote:1. Can/ Will the Bays kick straight ?
2. Will the Dogs bury the Tigers yet again, and put a mental nail in the coffin to the Bays flag hopes ?
3. Will Glenelg respond to last week's poor performance to beat Centrals at home, and give themselves some much needed confidence playing the Premiership favourites.
4. Will the Gowans go out and do the " knuckler " routine, forcing the Bays to become rattled.
5. Will the crowd exceed 8000 ?

1. Yes. Can't get any worse.
2. No. I know plenty of money has been put on Centrals to win the flag this year (way too short for my liking), the Dogs are massively overrated this year. With the exception of the Anzac Day match and the odd quarter here and there, Centrals hasn't gotten outta first gear at all this year. Glenelg easily by 4-6 goals. (I'm willing to put money on it.)
3. Yes.
4. I hope so.
5. Depends. Glenelg has the 2nd biggest bandwagon in the league (after attending the 2002 G.F. Sturt is definitely 1st...), If they aren't on the bandwagon now next week they will be...


Considering a fair percentage of Central Districts' supporter base weren't aware the SANFL even existed before 1995, that's a pretty silly thing to say buddy. (apologies to the likes of BP, Centurion and co who have obviously followed the Dogs for many a year).

Should be a cracking game. I think Bayman suggested earlier if the weather is good this game could match the attendance of the Bays v Sturt encounter in 08....I can't see that happening but I would think 6,000+ would be a pretty good turnout.


And I think that you are guessing. I have been following the doggies since the early 70s. Can still vividly remember their first finals win in 72 against Sturt :lol: and know lots of people who are the same. We may be doing OK at the moment but us long suffering fans had to attend something like 16 finals losses in a row and I think that I was at nearly all of them :roll:
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby Big Phil » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:53 am

Big Phil wrote:Hopefully with some good weather during the week, the Bay oval dries up a little bit ...


dedja wrote:I'm afraid the centre square will be a bog.


Dutchy wrote:To be fair though the rest of the oval was in good nick yesterday so Im a little confised by BP's post...


dedja wrote:True, I should have qualified that as well.



Sorry to confuse you Dutchy, like Dedja, I should have qualified my point as well by highlighting that I only meant the centre cricket pitch area. Like all grounds with a wicket in the middle, it will be a muddy, boggy mess and I meant that I hope this area specifically dries up a bit, but I do agree the rest of the Bay oval is in fine condition.
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby MST » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:43 am

doggies4eva wrote:
MST wrote:
The Apostle AK wrote:
baysman wrote:1. Can/ Will the Bays kick straight ?
2. Will the Dogs bury the Tigers yet again, and put a mental nail in the coffin to the Bays flag hopes ?
3. Will Glenelg respond to last week's poor performance to beat Centrals at home, and give themselves some much needed confidence playing the Premiership favourites.
4. Will the Gowans go out and do the " knuckler " routine, forcing the Bays to become rattled.
5. Will the crowd exceed 8000 ?

1. Yes. Can't get any worse.
2. No. I know plenty of money has been put on Centrals to win the flag this year (way too short for my liking), the Dogs are massively overrated this year. With the exception of the Anzac Day match and the odd quarter here and there, Centrals hasn't gotten outta first gear at all this year. Glenelg easily by 4-6 goals. (I'm willing to put money on it.)
3. Yes.
4. I hope so.
5. Depends. Glenelg has the 2nd biggest bandwagon in the league (after attending the 2002 G.F. Sturt is definitely 1st...), If they aren't on the bandwagon now next week they will be...


Considering a fair percentage of Central Districts' supporter base weren't aware the SANFL even existed before 1995, that's a pretty silly thing to say buddy. (apologies to the likes of BP, Centurion and co who have obviously followed the Dogs for many a year).

Should be a cracking game. I think Bayman suggested earlier if the weather is good this game could match the attendance of the Bays v Sturt encounter in 08....I can't see that happening but I would think 6,000+ would be a pretty good turnout.


And I think that you are guessing. I have been following the doggies since the early 70s. Can still vividly remember their first finals win in 72 against Sturt :lol: and know lots of people who are the same. We may be doing OK at the moment but us long suffering fans had to attend something like 16 finals losses in a row and I think that I was at nearly all of them :roll:


No offence meant mate and I am sure there are many, many such as yourself who have been with the club through thick and thin. My point is that there would also be many on the 'bandwagon' due to the success of the past 14 years or so. A lot of the newer generation Dogs supporters simply don't know what it's like to struggle and Apostles ignorant comment earlier highlights that.

Go on a run like South or West and watch a lot of the 18-30 year old brigade (the ones who've only known Premierships and nothing else) drop off like Lemmings.
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby mal » Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:05 pm

Congratulations to to the mighty Central Districts.
This game I believe will be the 1000th game played by this GRAND club.
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby Sam_goUUUdogs » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:14 pm

mal wrote:Congratulations to to the mighty Central Districts.
This game I believe will be the 1000th game played by this GRAND club.


Not quite, that one falls at Alberton.
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Re: Rd 17 Glenelg v Central Preview

Postby EasyE » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:52 am

MST wrote:Go on a run like South or West and watch a lot of the 18-30 year old brigade (the ones who've only known Premierships and nothing else) drop off like Lemmings.


Have Sturt ever had any supporters in that age bracket??? :lol:
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