Rd 16 North v West Review

[harley d]

Yep both flood far too much.

[G]

Yeah both sides should adopt the highly successful MALwood Redlegs style

[therisingblues]

r&b brings up an interesting point as I'm not sure which chanter of the "Roosters, Roosters, Roosters" he's referring to as controversy has recently broken out in the Prospect Grand Stands with a rebel chanter starting chants which has non plussed the regular starter of chants.
I have it on good authority that th original chanter claims that the new chanter throws out everyone in the Grand stand with his chants as they begin in a different area and timing is thrown completely out thus impacting on the resonance and volume.
r&b could have caught it at its worse today as competitiveness between the two factions has esculated recently.
Stay tuned for further info, a special meeting of members may be called soon to address this matter before things get violent. I even today suggested a new Rooster Rally to start at the old Grand Stand and finish at the newer Grand Stand to bring people awareness of this issue!

I kid you not! (well I do kid about the special meeting and rally but the rest is legit! )

Maybe the official chanter should wear an official looking "clap hat", that will attract the respect he's entitled to as official leader of the grandstand chants. It would also assist to minimise the obvious confusion patrons are experiencing through the rude intrusions of the unofficial chanter. I don't want to be seen to be taking sides in what is obviously a very complex issue, but I do believe if patrons can look over and recognise any new chant emanating from the purveyor of the official clap hat, they will be able to participate with confidence.
Surely the only obvious solution before things fall apart like the Balloon Bill and Bozo the Clown incident in the mall all those years back.

[Wedgie]

r&b brings up an interesting point as I'm not sure which chanter of the "Roosters, Roosters, Roosters" he's referring to as controversy has recently broken out in the Prospect Grand Stands with a rebel chanter starting chants which has non plussed the regular starter of chants.
I have it on good authority that th original chanter claims that the new chanter throws out everyone in the Grand stand with his chants as they begin in a different area and timing is thrown completely out thus impacting on the resonance and volume.
r&b could have caught it at its worse today as competitiveness between the two factions has esculated recently.
Stay tuned for further info, a special meeting of members may be called soon to address this matter before things get violent. I even today suggested a new Rooster Rally to start at the old Grand Stand and finish at the newer Grand Stand to bring people awareness of this issue!

I kid you not! (well I do kid about the special meeting and rally but the rest is legit! )

Maybe the official chanter should wear an official looking "clap hat", that will attract the respect he's entitled to as official leader of the grandstand chants. It would also assist to minimise the obvious confusion patrons are experiencing through the rude intrusions of the unofficial chanter. I don't want to be seen to be taking sides in what is obviously a very complex issue, but I do believe if patrons can look over and recognise any new chant emanating from the purveyor of the official clap hat, they will be able to participate with confidence.
Surely the only obvious solution before things fall apart like the Balloon Bill and Bozo the Clown incident in the mall all those years back.

I like your thinking, I reckon I've still got a clap hat in the shed somewhere from the 80s, I should dig it out, I also had a finger hat which when you pulled the strings it gave the finger, I should dig them both up and distribute them accordingly.

You should get a gig with the United Nations with that sort of smart lateral thinking!

[mal]

Yeah both sides should adopt the highly successful MALwood Redlegs style

Why bring the Norwood Football Club into this discussion ????????????????????????
I will repeat one more time for your benefit
GOOD NEWS
Both sides have improved in 2009
BAD NEWS
Both sides drop numbers back in defence and this becomes a bit boring to watch

How Norwood play is another issue
If I got a GL/CD/ST barracker to cut and paste my post you would be clueless how to reply


Now to more important issues
How was the BBQ at Prossie oval last Sunday NA V NW ?
My steak was undercooked a tad, but the sausage was good

[Ron Burgundy]

Sorry WA lads but I gotta say what I gotta say
Playing BENNETT was a very poor selection
WA needed to win to keep a Top 5 aspiration alive
WA should have picked thier best team
BENNETT is not in thier best team
Might have been a good promotional tool for the crowd and the developement of the area
BUT
It was a poor selection irrespective of the hindsight of being clobbered by ST
Also the player who was dropped for BENNETT would not be impressed, surely ?

Who is gunna play this week against CD ?
Will WA in the theme of things play THIELE and COORONG this week ?

That was posted on July 7, great call mal. You must have seen a lot of Bennett in recent times to pass this judgement...

[drebin]

Secondly, I admired the North crowd's appreciation of the umpiring. Favoured by a 30 - 21 free kick count and 4 of their 12 goals coming from frees, to West's 1, they convinced themselves that the umpires were murdering them This, despite the fact that my hero, Tony Dey, was umpiring..

Not a bad report R&B with the expected West bias

We did get a good run with the umpiring but as the stats showed we had a bucket load more possession and played in front and controlled the game for all but 15 minutes in the 3rd quarter. As for goals from frees - what about the 5 goals North gave you with very poor skill errors and turnovers???

North's skill level at times yesteday was absolutely some of the worst I have seen for many a year (both ressies and league) and the number of turnovers from poor kicks across goals which resulted in goals to West would have set a record yesterday. 2 of the biggest offenders were two players who normally don't waste a ball - Archard and Allan. It is good to see that the coach at least mentioned in the Sunday Mail write up today but mistakes like that moving forward will cost us dearly against the other sides in the 5.

Considering we played the second half with 2 key forwards in Schwarze and Alleway off the ground (one who had been off since early in the first quarter ) and Damon White and James Allan hampered by groin injuries then it was a very good win in the end for North.

The only negative I will say about Wests tatics was their continual man handling, scragging and "dirty" off the ball treatment they handed out to Allan who despite that still racked up a myriad of possessions. Had some of the West players thought about maybe getting the football a bit more instead of employing dirty tagging tatics the possession count may have increaeed given you some more options to win the game other than North gifting you 5 goals.

Also someone at West should drill into Cupido the benefits of being a team player and learning a defensive side to his game. If there is a lazier bludger who looks for easy kicks out wide and only plays when it suits him I have not seen for many a year. North has one of those players who is on an AFL list but fortunately our coach has seen that and he plays in our ressies.

[redandblack]

Not a bad reply, drebin, with the expected North bias

I think it was clear that apart from my usual praise of Tony Dey, I only commented on the umpires in terms of the North crowd reaction. It made no difference at all to the result. As for domination, the second quarter was even, West dominated the third and North dominated the first and last, to win deservedly, as I said.

As for 5 of our 7 goals coming from your errors, I'm sure Ryan Bennett's strong marking in front of goals might have also contributed to our score. You did turn it over two or three times, which we generally comfortably converted into points from set shots. I also suspect some of your goals came from our skill errors.

West started Birss on Allan and he was off the field injured after only a few minutes, so our on-ball rotations were badly affected, so it wasn't only North who had injury problems.

I'm not sure about Allan being much affected by a groin injury. He roamed far and wide all day. You should hope the injury doesn't get better.

As for West's 'dirty' tactics, see my first sentence

On a more serious note, what were your thoughts on my best players for North? I thought Davis was sensational.

[rod_rooster]

Secondly, I admired the North crowd's appreciation of the umpiring. Favoured by a 30 - 21 free kick count and 4 of their 12 goals coming from frees, to West's 1, they convinced themselves that the umpires were murdering them This, despite the fact that my hero, Tony Dey, was umpiring..

Not a bad report R&B with the expected West bias

We did get a good run with the umpiring but as the stats showed we had a bucket load more possession and played in front and controlled the game for all but 15 minutes in the 3rd quarter. As for goals from frees - what about the 5 goals North gave you with very poor skill errors and turnovers???

North's skill level at times yesteday was absolutely some of the worst I have seen for many a year (both ressies and league) and the number of turnovers from poor kicks across goals which resulted in goals to West would have set a record yesterday. 2 of the biggest offenders were two players who normally don't waste a ball - Archard and Allan. It is good to see that the coach at least mentioned in the Sunday Mail write up today but mistakes like that moving forward will cost us dearly against the other sides in the 5.

Considering we played the second half with 2 key forwards in Schwarze and Alleway off the ground (one who had been off since early in the first quarter ) and Damon White and James Allan hampered by groin injuries then it was a very good win in the end for North.

The only negative I will say about Wests tatics was their continual man handling, scragging and "dirty" off the ball treatment they handed out to Allan who despite that still racked up a myriad of possessions. Had some of the West players thought about maybe getting the football a bit more instead of employing dirty tagging tatics the possession count may have increaeed given you some more options to win the game other than North gifting you 5 goals.

Also someone at West should drill into Cupido the benefits of being a team player and learning a defensive side to his game. If there is a lazier bludger who looks for easy kicks out wide and only plays when it suits him I have not seen for many a year. North has one of those players who is on an AFL list but fortunately our coach has seen that and he plays in our ressies.

Cupido really has very little option to play that way though. He runs 15 metres and is absolutely stuffed and just stands there with hands on knees for 10 minutes to recover. It looked to me like he woke up yesterday morning and ate Stuart Dew.

[Wedgie]

Not a bad reply, drebin, with the expected North bias

I think it was clear that apart from my usual praise of Tony Dey, I only commented on the umpires in terms of the North crowd reaction. It made no difference at all to the result. As for domination, the second quarter was even, West dominated the third and North dominated the first and last, to win deservedly, as I said.

As for 5 of our 7 goals coming from your errors, I'm sure Ryan Bennett's strong marking in front of goals might have also contributed to our score. You did turn it over two or three times, which we generally comfortably converted into points from set shots. I also suspect some of your goals came from our skill errors.

West started Birss on Allan and he was off the field injured after only a few minutes, so our on-ball rotations were badly affected, so it wasn't only North who had injury problems.

I'm not sure about Allan being much affected by a groin injury. He roamed far and wide all day. You should hope the injury doesn't get better.

As for West's 'dirty' tactics, see my first sentence

On a more serious note, what were your thoughts on my best players for North? I thought Davis was sensational.

Agree about Davis, he'll be lost forever to the Crows very soon I feel, the improvement in the kid week in week out is unbelievable. A far cry from the trials when he lacked confidence.

Ryan Bennett's marking especially in the 3rd quarter was sensational, hate to see how some country backs went on him, Macca's no slouch and he killed him in those one on ones, weirdly enough some North fans gave Macca votes.

[dedja]

Also someone at West should drill into Cupido the benefits of being a team player and learning a defensive side to his game. If there is a lazier bludger who looks for easy kicks out wide and only plays when it suits him I have not seen for many a year. North has one of those players who is on an AFL list but fortunately our coach has seen that and he plays in our ressies.

Never a truer word spoken ... if West want to go that next step, they either drop him, move him on or read him the riot act.

Shame though, the man has some talent when he's not trying to be Mr Hollywood.

[G]

MAL I dony give a stuff about the style as long as we WIN.

We've had tears of playing attacking flashy footy and yes it can be entertaining, but it doesnt win any Silverware

-Experience tells you to always just go the snag sangas at Prossie

[mal]

Sorry WA lads but I gotta say what I gotta say
Playing BENNETT was a very poor selection
WA needed to win to keep a Top 5 aspiration alive
WA should have picked thier best team
BENNETT is not in thier best team
Might have been a good promotional tool for the crowd and the developement of the area
BUT
It was a poor selection irrespective of the hindsight of being clobbered by ST
Also the player who was dropped for BENNETT would not be impressed, surely ?

Who is gunna play this week against CD ?
Will WA in the theme of things play THIELE and COORONG this week ?

That was posted on July 7, great call mal. You must have seen a lot of Bennett in recent times to pass this judgement...

RON BURGANDY
Ive already admitted I WAS WRONG in this thread about Ryan Bennett [good initials !!! Ron Burgandy}
I thought it was a one off selection in the bush
It was not
Ends up that the guy can play
I was really impressed with his effort at Prossie

G
Good reply the Nunanites won a couple of flags , but overall pretty footy does not gain the silverware it should [geez na could have won 5 flags back then as they had a batch of unbelievably good players]
The ReallyHealys play finals type footy
When that style wins games its acceptable to the Rooster faithfuls
BUT
If its not producing wins, mark my works some of the more fickle supporters will abscond

NA BBQ
Yeah the snags are better
But dunno about the gift wrapping, the boys in the BBQ stall make them look like Xmas presents!

FLU WEST ADELAIDE ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
A little birdy has informed me that at least 2 players played with the flu v ST at Waikerie
The same birdy tells me another player played against NA with the flu
Mr Collins is according to the source , not impressed

[am Bays]

At least MAL uses his cereMAL cortices and has the gumption to put his thoughts out there. Sometimes he's wrong more often he is close to the mark.

[harley d]

Sorry WA lads but I gotta say what I gotta say
Playing BENNETT was a very poor selection
WA needed to win to keep a Top 5 aspiration alive
WA should have picked thier best team
BENNETT is not in thier best team
Might have been a good promotional tool for the crowd and the developement of the area
BUT
It was a poor selection irrespective of the hindsight of being clobbered by ST
Also the player who was dropped for BENNETT would not be impressed, surely ?

Who is gunna play this week against CD ?
Will WA in the theme of things play THIELE and COORONG this week ?

That was posted on July 7, great call mal. You must have seen a lot of Bennett in recent times to pass this judgement...

RON BURGANDY
Ive already admitted I WAS WRONG in this thread about Ryan Bennett [good initials !!! Ron Burgandy}
I thought it was a one off selection in the bush
It was not
Ends up that the guy can play
I was really impressed with his effort at Prossie

G
Good reply the Nunanites won a couple of flags , but overall pretty footy does not gain the silverware it should [geez na could have won 5 flags back then as they had a batch of unbelievably good players]
The ReallyHealys play finals type footy
When that style wins games its acceptable to the Rooster faithfuls
BUT
If its not producing wins, mark my works some of the more fickle supporters will abscond

NA BBQ
Yeah the snags are better
But dunno about the gift wrapping, the boys in the BBQ stall make them look like Xmas presents!

FLU WEST ADELAIDE ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
A little birdy has informed me that at least 2 players played with the flu v ST at Waikerie
The same birdy tells me another player played against NA with the flu
Mr Collins is according to the source , not impressed

The flu ? Good effort to play then. You are bed ridden with the flu.

[mal]

At least MAL uses his cereMAL cortices and has the gumption to put his thoughts out there. Sometimes he's wrong more often he is close to the mark.

WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its taken you 3 years to finally say something nice about me
Geez all we need now is G to as well

[redden whites]

-Experience tells you to always just go the snag sangas at Prossie

Experience tells me not to go anywhere near it for fear of being served by the human sloth.

[drebin]

Not a bad reply, drebin, with the expected North bias As for 5 of our 7 goals coming from your errors, I'm sure Ryan Bennett's strong marking in front of goals might have also contributed to our score. You did turn it over two or three times, which we generally comfortably converted into points from set shots. I also suspect some of your goals came from our skill errors.

West started Birss on Allan and he was off the field injured after only a few minutes, so our on-ball rotations were badly affected, so it wasn't only North who had injury problems.

I'm not sure about Allan being much affected by a groin injury. He roamed far and wide all day. You should hope the injury doesn't get better.

As for West's 'dirty' tactics, see my first sentence

On a more serious note, what were your thoughts on my best players for North? I thought Davis was sensational.

Ryan Bennett played really well - especially in the 3rd quarter. Good size (around the height and size of Chambers) and he has good hands, you can see why Collins took a gamble and picked him out of the Riverland, that may shut up a few detractors! He did mark well but 2 of his goals in the third came from terrible turnovers in our defence which ended up with him taking a grab when the ball shot back to the front of the square so that was to highlight my earlier point about how many West goals came from turnovers but you are correct in the fact that we probably got 3 or 4 from poor West clearances.

With Birss injured - not denying that hurt your rotations but our loss of Schwarzwe and Alleway had a far bigger impact than West losing an on baller IMO. I'm not sure how you would have gone losing say Willetts and Bennett - like for like positional players, although Willetts still proves to be a huge disappointment for a guy his size and it hurt West having both him and Cupido up forward as Bennett was really your only fwd threat.

As for your best players re North - spot on. Davis was very good and Allan despite being heavily "tagged" off the ball and hampered in his movement still shows his class and gets a bucket load of possession.

[bosvit]

Not a bad reply, drebin, with the expected North bias As for 5 of our 7 goals coming from your errors, I'm sure Ryan Bennett's strong marking in front of goals might have also contributed to our score. You did turn it over two or three times, which we generally comfortably converted into points from set shots. I also suspect some of your goals came from our skill errors.

West started Birss on Allan and he was off the field injured after only a few minutes, so our on-ball rotations were badly affected, so it wasn't only North who had injury problems.

I'm not sure about Allan being much affected by a groin injury. He roamed far and wide all day. You should hope the injury doesn't get better.

As for West's 'dirty' tactics, see my first sentence

On a more serious note, what were your thoughts on my best players for North? I thought Davis was sensational.

Ryan Bennett played really well - especially in the 3rd quarter. Good size (around the height and size of Chambers) and he has good hands, you can see why Collins took a gamble and picked him out of the Riverland, that may shut up a few detractors! He did mark well but 2 of his goals in the third came from terrible turnovers in our defence which ended up with him taking a grab when the ball shot back to the front of the square so that was to highlight my earlier point about how many West goals came from turnovers but you are correct in the fact that we probably got 3 or 4 from poor West clearances.

With Birss injured - not denying that hurt your rotations but our loss of Schwarzwe and Alleway had a far bigger impact than West losing an on baller IMO. I'm not sure how you would have gone losing say Willetts and Bennett - like for like positional players, although Willetts still proves to be a huge disappointment for a guy his size and it hurt West having both him and Cupido up forward as Bennett was really your only fwd threat.

As for your best players re North - spot on. Davis was very good and Allan despite being heavily "tagged" off the ball and hampered in his movement still shows his class and gets a bucket load of possession.

Maybe Allan's 3 or 4 early belly button tags to Morris and Birss was a contributing factor in his treatment.

Not to mention his straight through the ruck contest to try and take out a player (Morris) on a couple of occasions.

Come on muscles its football, was there any potential season threatening violence in any of it????

Its swings and round abouts, the flashier better little fellas with hot heads always cop a bit of a belting eg Clayton from the PAM's

[bosvit]

It really was a terrible display from the umpires, even though it did not change the result.

It did however change the enjoyment of the paying customers.

But how are the SANFL supposed to attract new umpires when they have to run off through an irrate crowd with only a handful of security guards to protect them. Start protecting the umpires from poor supporters (we all have them) a bit better and we might attract a few more to the fold.