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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby SABRE » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:43 pm

nickname wrote:Describing the loss to West as 'humiliating' is an unwarranted insult to a team whose players are far more committed than Norwood's are.

Sorry 'nickname', I have to side with CP here.
I can't agree that an insult is meant or implied in the way you feel it is.
If Westies were above Norwood on the ladder and lost to us, they could quite legitimately call
it a humiliating loss. Any team losing to a team below it on the ladder is surely humiliated.
Can't fault your pride though !
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:06 pm

SABRE wrote:
nickname wrote:Describing the loss to West as 'humiliating' is an unwarranted insult to a team whose players are far more committed than Norwood's are.

Sorry 'nickname', I have to side with CP here.
I can't agree that an insult is meant or implied in the way you feel it is.
If Westies were above Norwood on the ladder and lost to us, they could quite legitimately call
it a humiliating loss. Any team losing to a team below it on the ladder is surely humiliated.
Can't fault your pride though !
;)


I also feel the comments were based on a season's performance, culminating in yet another home ground loss on the weekend. Our inability to win games at Norwood Oval is what I actually call hitting rock bottom, no matter who we are playing.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby bayman » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:28 pm

norwood have really played one very decent game (against wwt a few weeks back) & that day 2 blokes pulled out late, now if they can play that well one week why can't they do that most weeks ? perhaps they'll have to play wwt's every week, however i've seen norwood a few times this year & overall they are a rabble & from saturdays game i thought rowe was their only player that put his hand up for 4 full quarters while others came in & out of the match....having said that with all this 'hype' the big ground at elizabeth does suit them & they could give central a big scare if the players have the right mental attitude however i've seen them enough to suggest they might 'fly the flag' for a while but the habits will come through
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:45 pm

bayman wrote:norwood have really played one very decent game (against wwt a few weeks back) & that day 2 blokes pulled out late, now if they can play that well one week why can't they do that most weeks ?


One may ask if Eagles can play that poorly one week, why not every week? How come Glenelg got pumped by Central on Anzac Day? Why did North thrash Sturt, then go down to Port? Why did Sturt thrash Central then get belted by North? How come Eagles belted Central then got steam rolled by Norwood? That's footy. That day, Norwood had a rare good day, and the Eagles had a stinker. It happens.

Go back over the years, and you will see most lowly ranked clubs have at least one really good day, that's life.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Grahaml » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:53 pm

I think they should have just written:

Dear cash cow,
please don't allow our horrible team performance to stop you spending your money at our club. Please remain assured we will say all in our power to keep your money flowing in instead of starting away until we produce something worth turning up to watch.

Honestly, I think these letters (which are all the rage after an embarassing loss aparently) are a joke. If you need a letter to tell you your players are trying and the club is doing whatever it can to improve then there are more serious issues at hand. I know my club hasn't been through much of it lately, but after a crap start to 2005, an awful loss to Glenelg in 2006 (I think it was anyway) I personally felt 100% confident it wasn't for lack of effort. In fact I would have felt insulted the club decided a letter to fans was a part of the solution.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:00 am

Grahaml wrote:[b]I know my club hasn't been through much of it lately[/b.


Exactly, which is why I'm not all that interested in your opinion of the letter. This letter was written TO Norwood supporters FOR Norwood supporters. Why it needs to be discussed by supporters of other clubs is beyond me.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Big Phil » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:22 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Grahaml wrote:I know my club hasn't been through much of it lately


Exactly, which is why I'm not all that interested in your opinion of the letter. This letter was written TO Norwood supporters FOR Norwood supporters. Why it needs to be discussed by supporters of other clubs is beyond me.



What more did you expect AH when it was posted on a forum for the veiwing of the general public and that of other clubs supporters ???
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Squawk » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:38 am

Grahaml wrote:Honestly, I think these letters (which are all the rage after an embarassing loss aparently) are a joke. If you need a letter to tell you your players are trying and the club is doing whatever it can to improve then there are more serious issues at hand.In fact I would have felt insulted the club decided a letter to fans was a part of the solution.


Actually this letter was designed to achieve two objectives IMHO:

firstly, to formalise the drawing of a line in the sand
secondly, by reporting to members that the Board won't tolerate sub-standard performances from anyone at the club.

Hence, everyone is on notice. They know the supporters won't continue to tolerate it.

There's a famous story about Centrals that said after being unable to win a GF, enough was enough and the solution would have to be to copy Port Adelaide's model. ie, a line was drawn in the sand.

By putting it in writing, there is now some defined accountability.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Big Phil » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:46 am

Squawk wrote:
Grahaml wrote:Honestly, I think these letters (which are all the rage after an embarassing loss aparently) are a joke. If you need a letter to tell you your players are trying and the club is doing whatever it can to improve then there are more serious issues at hand.In fact I would have felt insulted the club decided a letter to fans was a part of the solution.


Actually this letter was designed to achieve two objectives IMHO:

firstly, to formalise the drawing of a line in the sand
secondly, by reporting to members that the Board won't tolerate sub-standard performances from anyone at the club.

Hence, everyone is on notice. They know the supporters won't continue to tolerate it.

There's a famous story about Centrals that said after being unable to win a GF, enough was enough and the solution would have to be to copy Port Adelaide's model. ie, a line was drawn in the sand.

By putting it in writing, there is now some defined accountability.


Well said Squawk, that's how I would have taken it if I was a Redleg fan.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby dedja » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:50 am

Squawk, I think you'll find the letter was to 'appease the peasants', but it does achieve both objectives.

Personally as a non-Norwood supporter, it's very obvious that a great deal of angst against the club that has been brewing for weeks, months and in some cases, years. The fact that the club has publicly backed the coach until the end of the year may have started a coup that the club obviously didn't want to entertain, so the smart thing to do would be to make a public statement to the members and supporters to nip that in the bud, which is exactly what they've done.

I have no doubt that the contents of the letter are sincere though and the next few weeks will tell if anything improves ... good luck.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Wedgie » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:57 am

harley d wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Does anyone know what is latin for "In Mediocrity we Thrive" because I think its time North joined Norwood in having a latin saying.



North have lost 2 games in a row. Breathe. Some North supporters are so quick to jump ON but OFF in a short time. Next you will want to get rid of Healey ;)


I think North supporters might be referring more to 18 years without a flag rather than 2 losses which surely wouldn't be too hard to work out even for the most dimwitted person.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby JK » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:03 am

SABRE wrote:
nickname wrote:Describing the loss to West as 'humiliating' is an unwarranted insult to a team whose players are far more committed than Norwood's are.

Sorry 'nickname', I have to side with CP here.
I can't agree that an insult is meant or implied in the way you feel it is.
If Westies were above Norwood on the ladder and lost to us, they could quite legitimately call
it a humiliating loss. Any team losing to a team below it on the ladder is surely humiliated.
Can't fault your pride though !
;)


That aside, I think the message comes as a culmination of performances regarded as sub-standard over a long period of time ... The high majority of players clearly didn't put in on Saturday to an acceptable level, and if they had and we'd still lost I don't think we'd be receiving this message (well not yet anyway), my point being is that I don't think it's in reference to the opponent we played, more the manner in which we conducted ourselves.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Pseudo » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:53 am

Wedgie wrote:PS Pseudo, where are you? I'm sure you've posted in Latin before. :)

Sorry, only in igpay atinlay. :lol:
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:07 pm

Wedgie wrote:
harley d wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Does anyone know what is latin for "In Mediocrity we Thrive" because I think its time North joined Norwood in having a latin saying.



North have lost 2 games in a row. Breathe. Some North supporters are so quick to jump ON but OFF in a short time. Next you will want to get rid of Healey ;)


I think North supporters might be referring more to 18 years without a flag rather than 2 losses which surely wouldn't be too hard to work out even for the most dimwitted person.
;)

PS Pseudo, where are you? I'm sure you've posted in Latin before. :)



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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby harley d » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:36 pm

Wedgie wrote:
harley d wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Does anyone know what is latin for "In Mediocrity we Thrive" because I think its time North joined Norwood in having a latin saying.



North have lost 2 games in a row. Breathe. Some North supporters are so quick to jump ON but OFF in a short time. Next you will want to get rid of Healey ;)


I think North supporters might be referring more to 18 years without a flag rather than 2 losses which surely wouldn't be too hard to work out even for the most dimwitted person.
;)

PS Pseudo, where are you? I'm sure you've posted in Latin before. :)


OK Ease up ! Cant read your mind , which is probably a good thing and wouldnt take too long if we could. ;)
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby UK Fan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:11 pm

Elbows wrote:Announcement from Norwood Football Club:-

Dear Supporter

Norwood’s Performance

After Saturday’s humiliating loss to West Adelaide, Trevor Hill said that he felt as if the Norwood league side had reached rock bottom in terms of its on field performance.

He may or may not be right.

Keith Thomas
For and on behalf of the board of the Norwood Football Club



Good to see everyone on the same page down at the legs. I have no doubt this letter "may or may not" have a positive affect on the playing group. :oops:

Any chance we could get a copy of the letter sent from the playing group to the board after the club was busted over the salary cap and they were forced to take pay cuts.

Positive for Norwood fans atleast the board members actually informed the players first this time(Joel Coombes).


So who would of been norwoods most succesful coach this decade. Macca ???? Legs finished 3rd in 2002.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby harley d » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:32 pm

I have no doubt this letter "may or may not" have a positive affect on the playing group.

Ummmmmm please explain ? I will guarantee it may or may not have a positive affect !! :lol:
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby Pseudo » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:09 pm

UK Fan wrote:So who would of been norwoods most succesful coach this decade. Macca ???? Legs finished 3rd in 2002.

By that criterion (ladder position in a single year) Macca is also the least successful coach of Norwood this decade. :-k
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:49 pm

UK Fan wrote:Good to see everyone on the same page down at the legs. I have no doubt this letter "may or may not" have a positive affect on the playing group. :oops:

Any chance we could get a copy of the letter sent from the playing group to the board after the club was busted over the salary cap and they were forced to take pay cuts.

Positive for Norwood fans atleast the board members actually informed the players first this time(Joel Coombes).


So who would of been norwoods most succesful coach this decade. Macca ???? Legs finished 3rd in 2002.


Man I wish this forum was around from 1964-1999. :(
This decade sux.
If we wanna talk succesful coaches by decade. Should we talk about the 70's, 80's and 90's?

Back on topic, this is the action all us supporters have been crying out for, and needed to take place after the game against North.
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Re: Norwood's Performance

Postby JK » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:53 pm

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:Back on topic, this is the action all us supporters have been crying out for, and needed to take place after the game against North.


Should have happened well before then, there have been instances in 2007, 08 and 09 when action was necessary ... I guess we should be thankful they opted for this release, than another contract extension lol
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