South Adelaide join forces with the Assemblies of God Church

[Dogwatcher]

BTW - I will clarify that I'm an agnostic and have no religious affiliations.

[Sojourner]

One question, if say an SANFL club had a partnership with a local Catholic/Anglican church, would your reaction be the same?

Not even remotley Bruce!

Google the following terms all endorsed by the Assemblies of God Church and you may soon see why I have an issue with this type of Church being involved with a football club.

"Prosperity Gospel"

"Speaking In Tounges"

"Faith Healing"

"Slaying in the Spirit"

"Tithing"

"Faith Gifts"

"Toronto Blessing"

"Rodney Howard Browne"

"Jimmy Swaggart"

"Jimmy Bakker"

etc etc

[shoe boy]

Bruce and Dogwatcher are right, i fail to see that this is a big deal, South need to build relationships with all community types down South and this i hope is the first of many more. Sometimes we need to be reminded (albeit tough at times on this site) it's just footy folks.

Well stick with footy and not get into religion!!!
And in MY opinion it is a big deal!

[Sojourner]

Then there is also this type of behaviour which goes on with the above, Swaggart, Bakker, Gugliemucci etc,

Fake illness preacher Michael Guglielmucci told to go to August 22, 2008 01:10am
PASTOR Michael Guglielmucci has been told by church officials to report to police, who will investigate what has happened to money raised during his cancer deception.

The Australian Christian Churches told The Advertiser yesterday that it was auditing Mr Guglielmucci's bank accounts, which included money donated from people touched by his hit song Healer.
Mr Guglielmucci confessed his two-year fraudulent cancer battle at a national executive meeting of the ACC on Saturday, and was stripped of his credentials.

Edge Church International's executive pastor Jonathan Fontanarosa said Mr Guglielmucci had "made it clear that he is not sick".

"But we're waiting on further investigation to find out the full truth," he said. "The church is in shock . . . we were totally unaware of the situation."

It was decided at Saturday's meeting that a statement would be read on Mr Guglielmucci's behalf at churches around Australia this Sunday.
But an email sent on Wednesday from Sydney's Hillsong Church detailing the hoax was obtained by The Advertiser.

It also said Mr Guglielmucci's wife and family were unaware of the deception. The Melbourne-based preacher is in Adelaide, but has gone to ground.

His parents, who founded Edge Church International, an Assemblies of God church at Reynella, are assisting him while he seeks professional help.

The ACC has promised that all money raised deceptively will be returned or donated to charity.

The Assemblies of God, Australia's largest Pentecostal movement, adopted its new name of Australian Christian Churches in 2007.

The former pastor with one of Australia's biggest youth churches, Planetshakers, inspired hundreds of thousands of young Christians around the world as he performed with an oxygen tube in his nose.

Healer became an anthem of faith for believers, many of whom are suffering illnesses and were praying for Mr Guglielmucci.

The song, featured on Hillsong's latest album, debuted at No. 2 on the ARIA charts.

In a YouTube video, he tells how the news from the hospital that he had "quite an aggressive form of cancer" inspired his song. "I just went home. I knew I had to go home and needed to get alone with God," he says in the video.

"I walked into my studio at home and for some reason. . . I sat at a piano and began to worship.

"I sang that song from start to finish. I was crying. I just realised that God had given me an incredible gift and I realise that song was going to be my strength."

Church community sources said Mr Guglielmucci attended his medical appointments alone.

A scheduled appearance by him at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne this weekend has been cancelled.

While many in the church were embarrassed by the betrayal, others showed support on Facebook, where a page titled "We are STILL praying for you Mike Guglielmucci" was set up yesterday.

[Dogwatcher]

Yeah, and....

[JK]

I think you need to take the blinkers off for a bit Soj, name any denomination (or any group for that matter) that hasn't had it's share of bad apples over time - Unfair to tar them all with the same brush.

[LBT]

Having had some family friends become involved with this church I am extremely shocked that the South Adelaide Footy Club have become involved. For me it sounds like they(the Church) are looking to spread their wings ad recruit more churchgoers & $$$ from the Southern community.

[Brucetiki]

I think you need to take the blinkers off for a bit Soj, name any denomination (or any group for that matter) that hasn't had it's share of bad apples over time - Unfair to tar them all with the same brush.

I can't believe I'm agreeing with a Norwood supporter

That's right. And whilst there's been a couple of bad apples in just about every denomination, the good work the Church (as a whole) does within the community far outweighs the couple of bad apples. It's not as if the Church and football haven't joined forces before - how many years have the Salvos had tins outside entry gates for, and of course Life FM broadcasts SANFL matches.

[shoe boy]

spot on LBT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is all they are about WAKE UP!!!!!!!

[JK]

I think you need to take the blinkers off for a bit Soj, name any denomination (or any group for that matter) that hasn't had it's share of bad apples over time - Unfair to tar them all with the same brush.

I can't believe I'm agreeing with a Norwood supporter

That's right. And whilst there's been a couple of bad apples in just about every denomination, the good work the Church (as a whole) does within the community far outweighs the couple of bad apples. It's not as if the Church and football haven't joined forces before - how many years have the Salvos had tins outside entry gates for, and of course Life FM broadcasts SANFL matches.

I knew I'd get a win with you Doggies blokes one of these days, only took 4 years

[Dogwatcher]

spot on LBT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is all they are about WAKE UP!!!!!!!

Aren't we all?

[Jase]

spot on LBT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is all they are about WAKE UP!!!!!!!

Yep those darn Salvo's helping the homeless, all the free food hampers they provide, clothing and shelter...and it's not just the Salvo's every church has some sort of support system in place for those that need it...but of course they are doing it just for the cash, nothing to do with wanting to help those who need it...

It's CASH, CASH, CASH...

[shoe boy]

spot on LBT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is all they are about WAKE UP!!!!!!!

Yep those darn Salvo's helping the homeless, all the free food hampers they provide, clothing and shelter...and it's not just the Salvo's every church has some sort of support system in place for those that need it...but of course they are doing it just for the cash, nothing to do with wanting to help those who need it...

It's CASH, CASH, CASH...

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[Sojourner]

That's right. And whilst there's been a couple of bad apples in just about every denomination, the good work the Church (as a whole) does within the community far outweighs the couple of bad apples. It's not as if the Church and football haven't joined forces before - how many years have the Salvos had tins outside entry gates for, and of course Life FM broadcasts SANFL matches.

I am not talking about "the church", I am talking about "The Assemblies of God Denomination".

The Salvos have tins outside the football and use the funds to help the homeless, the AOG raise funds to use to pay for their ministers to have HSV Commodores, interest free home loans, Mega Salaries etc etc.

Huge difference between a group like the Salvation Army and the AOG, go look into how the Divisional commander of the Salvation Army is renumerated as opposed to the Senior Minsiter at Edge Church and let us know what you find out.......

[Barto]

[Big Phil]

Okilee Dokilee Doo Neighbourino...

Go Pan... didiliee anthers....

[JK]

The Salvos have tins outside the football and use the funds to help the homeless, the AOG raise funds to use to pay for their ministers to have HSV Commodores, interest free home loans, Mega Salaries etc etc.

Again you're talking some bad apples

[Jase]

Okilee Dokilee Doo Neighbourino...

Go Pan... didiliee anthers....

Gold.....

[darley16]

And the winners are Barto and Big Phil That's excellent!

[Brucetiki]

That's right. And whilst there's been a couple of bad apples in just about every denomination, the good work the Church (as a whole) does within the community far outweighs the couple of bad apples. It's not as if the Church and football haven't joined forces before - how many years have the Salvos had tins outside entry gates for, and of course Life FM broadcasts SANFL matches.

I am not talking about "the church", I am talking about "The Assemblies of God Denomination".

The Salvos have tins outside the football and use the funds to help the homeless, the AOG raise funds to use to pay for their ministers to have HSV Commodores, interest free home loans, Mega Salaries etc etc.

Huge difference between a group like the Salvation Army and the AOG, go look into how the Divisional commander of the Salvation Army is renumerated as opposed to the Senior Minsiter at Edge Church and let us know what you find out.......

Errr, no.

The ACC do raise funds for community work, albeit not as widely publicised as denominations like the Salvos. So some ACC pastors have a few luxuries, but the bulk are actually paid for by the pastor themselves, albeit often at a discounted rate.

As for the salary of an ACC pastor, you'd be surprised at how low they are.

You can't talk about the 'AOG Denomination' without talking about 'The Church' because the 'AOG Denomination' is part of 'The Church'.

Also, what does this have to do with any arrangement The Panthers have with this Church.