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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby whatever » Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:50 pm

Thiele wrote:I reckon the first 15 mins cost us and maybe our kicking for goal.


first 6minutes and 30 seconds wasn't it when Warren had already kicked 3 straight.

But south were 4 goals to nothing and westies went and kicked 1.10 to souths 1.2 over the next 30 minutes of play. damn near every one of those 10 points was gettable.

West dominated the game other than the first 15minutes of the game.

Davies was very good for westies.

I actually enjoyed the game. South were very good at opening up the game when they had the ball even if it meant 2 long kicks to switch play then run down the opposite wing. Very good at having a player sneak out wide on the wing when the ball is in the opposite forward pocket. South looked a lot more cohirant bringing the ball through the middle.

McKernan showed a lot of poise in the last five minutes playing loose in defence.
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby Bulldogs007 » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:05 am

Being a one eyed West Adelaide supporter, I felt embarrased by the loss to the Panthers today. To give them the start that the WAFC gave them after beating port last week in a trial game and giving supporters something go to finally look forward to in this season, was a discrace. I only hope that all the AFL listed players dont get called up by there respected clubs because Westies might as well come and play div 4 amatur league because they would be rubbish. I have never seen a more timid team, whats wrong with running straight. Sure Cubido might be able to pull his finger out of his cheesecake arse and throw his 100kg + body around. I can see why Birss is already out of the side with stress a lot more westies players to follow if this is the sorta CRA_ they are going to play every week.
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby NFC » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:12 am

Hartlett, except for that kick in the last term, was very good. Schmidt was outstanding and easily the best user of the ball in West's side.

It was a terrible game, skill level shocking and no real intensity. West will win the spoon in 09.
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby bosvit » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:02 am

Gee we have some interesting game plans don't we.

Some of the key ones are:

The figure 7 defensive move
At all costs you must get the ball back to a player in the defensive goal square as soon as you gain possession in defence
Kick wide to either flank, then square it into the CHB area making sure you take the time to count every player on the park before disposing of the ball.
Kick to either wing, take your time, hesitate at least twice then square into the centre of the ground

Reverse Tempo football
Change your tempo during the game to ensure confusion in your side and allow the opposition to setup the zone
Slow it down in defence and ensure to use the figure 7 defensive move at any opportunity
Remember the figure 7 defensive move can be incorporated further up the ground to great effect moving into the forward 50
Once we have run the figure 7 and ensured the opposition have reached a suitable level of boredom from standing in their zone areas for so long, launch a surprise attack on the forward 50
Smash it in as long and as high as you can, preferably without looking
This move is most effective when kicked from the 80-55m from goal areas

Emotional management
When pure attack on the ball and agression are needed to get us over the line it is best to all sit down and have a group hug
Use soothing voice tones and make everyone a cup of tea
Make sure we are all relaxed and calm before going out on the field for that vital final quarter
We don't want anyone wasting emotional energy at 3/4 or before the game, save it for the field
Perhaps we should look at supplying the waterboys with warm lemon scented water with a hint of brown sugar and honey

From many of the individual performances yesterday we have way too good a list to finish bottom this year, but if the game plan used on the season launch is what we are to expect for the rest of the year it's an 8 team competition.

Too Cupido conscious IMO. Fair enough use him as much as possible his long accurate kicking is probably the best in the league, he is cool and calm under pressure, but when you slow the game down and kick backwards/sideways to find him its too late. South followed their game plan very well for a game so early in the season and with it on TV for all to see, the template for how to break down the WAFC game is set and for all of the "trying to squeeze into the top 5" teams there is no excuse for not knowing how to shut down our midfield and forward structure.

I thought our second efforts and 1% were better than the "Panthers" but they tackled better than we did, we missed a lot of crucial tackles in our forward 50 that would have made a significant difference both on the scoreboard (well if we could kick) and mentally on our opposition.

We may have had more of the ball more of the inside 50's etc etc. But we were outplayed structurally all day and IMO the Panthers deserved this win
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby RustyCage » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:48 am

Any reason why the ABC constantly refered to them as Panthers on their scoreboard and in the fixture for next week, and never refered to them as South? Maybe a move to call them Panthers so no one will care when the club changes their name like they said a couple of months ago?
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby bayman » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:10 pm

pafc1870 wrote:Any reason why the ABC constantly refered to them as Panthers on their scoreboard and in the fixture for next week, and never refered to them as South? Maybe a move to call them Panthers so no one will care when the club changes their name like they said a couple of months ago?



i heard on the radio yesterday that they want to be known as 'the panthers', to me it doesn't tell people where they are from, why not 'the south adelaide panthers' at least then people would know they are situated in the south
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby A Mum » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:12 pm

Probably a stupid question...

Who makes the decision to change the name??
Is it the board??

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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby Thiele » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:13 pm

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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Game Review

Postby bayman » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:21 pm

am Bays wrote:I'm sure all the Westies supporters on here are going to apologise to Bayman when he suggested that this is a no bet game and despite westies last two TRIAL games (compared to the real thing) they hadn't done enough to convince him to back them to win...



don't be silly am bays, i wouldn't think anyone will say well perhaps bayman was right because obviously they know a lot more about football than i do....the formguide said 4 spoons in a row & not too many wins & the bookies wanted you to take $1.65 i thought & was proven correct that $1.60 for both central & glenelg (the multi $2.56) was a lot lot better to have & what more i got a 156% profit where as if you backed westies you got a 100% loss, backing glenelg & central ''was like taking corn off a blind cocky'' backing teams like west at those odd WILL LEAD YOU TOWARDS POVERTY ;)
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby Thiele » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:25 pm

Bayman i was going say last night you are right and I'am wrong. How we going to win when we let the oppsition run free out of our forward lines
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby redandblack » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:26 pm

Well, no West supporter said on that thread (IIRC) that West would win. We took issue with Bayman's statement about our defensive set-up and lack of scoring shots. We had 23 scoring shots to 18 yesterday and lost because we couldn't kick straight.

Nothing to do with betting or who would win.
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby bayman » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:38 pm

redandblack wrote:Well, no West supporter said on that thread (IIRC) that West would win. We took issue with Bayman's statement about our defensive set-up and lack of scoring shots. We had 23 scoring shots to 18 yesterday and lost because we couldn't kick straight.

Nothing to do with betting or who would win.



go back & read it all ;)
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Game Review

Postby saintal » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:22 pm

Sojourner wrote:It was also quite satisfying to see South win after most people in here tipped Westies! ;)


Very true :D Hard to understand all the love for West pre-match...

Scappy, forgettable game (been said a few times about recent SA v WA games), but take the win anyday. Warren a class above most on the day, hopefully 60+ goals is on offering from him this season. A few of the new recruits looked handy. Liked the games of Sandery, Williams and Thewlis down back. Same old, same old from Westies, particularly Willits.

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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby redandblack » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:01 pm

Not sure about same old, same old.

We couldn't kick straight to save ourselves, so we rightly lost, but we went inside 50 more than 50 times for 23 scoring shots. There were plenty of encouraging signs, considering nearly half the side was new from last year.

Bronik Davies was outstanding, Jason Davenport, Chris Schmidt and Hamish Hartlett looked classy most of the day, Caruso showed he'll be lively with another game or two under his belt, James Ezard was very, very good and Cupido showed how to kick a footy (often).

Warren was the difference between the sides and played a great game.

I'm one West supporter who will back ourselves in this year. I'm happy to put up with the jibes about how we play, because I have faith that the process happening at the Bloods will succeed.
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby Sojourner » Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:16 pm

redandblack wrote:I'm one West supporter who will back ourselves in this year. I'm happy to put up with the jibes about how we play, because I have faith that the process happening at the Bloods will succeed.


Totally agree with you there R&B, Westies have had a massive turnover of their list and it was evident to me that they lacked cohesion as a group yesterday which led to some scrappy play, yet that is clearly a situation that will only improve as the season continues and it should also be noted that Westies still have players yet to come into the side that will no doubt lift the side accordingly, I would have liked to have seen recruit Shane Birss out there yesterday who I think will very much become one of the best players in the core group at Westies over this year.
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby ajc » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:22 pm

Thiele wrote:I reckon the first 15 mins cost us and maybe our kicking for goal.

i watched it on tv the game and i totally agree missed too many easy shots at goal early might have been in with a slight chance of victory if westies scored those goals
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby NO-MERCY » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:34 pm

I believe Westies lack a key Forward & it surprises me ro see Cupido playing down back, surely this bloke is around the top5 best fwds in the comp.
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby bayman » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:34 pm

ajc wrote:
Thiele wrote:I reckon the first 15 mins cost us and maybe our kicking for goal.

i watched it on tv the game and i totally agree missed too many easy shots at goal early might have been in with a slight chance of victory if westies scored those goals


you guys got to remember the old saying ''bad kicking is bad football'' ;) yes it happened to glenelg a year or so ago against your bloods when we kicked 12.20 or similar score line & that day it was bad footy also
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby Sojourner » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:38 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:I believe Westies lack a key Forward & it surprises me ro see Cupido playing down back, surely this bloke is around the top5 best fwds in the comp.


What did you say on the Preview thread NO-MERCY, something like -

NO-MERCY wrote:The Bloods easy this week, South will struggle to get of the bottom.
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Re: RD 1 South Adelaide v West Adelaide Post Game Review

Postby bayman » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:39 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:I believe Westies lack a key Forward & it surprises me ro see Cupido playing down back, surely this bloke is around the top5 best fwds in the comp.


well one year at south & he kicked 55 or thereabouts yet coach collins persists with cupido playing in defence which means the happiest 8 blokes in adelaide are the other 8 coaches because as we know 15-20 kicks across half back wont hurt the opposition but up forward if he had half of those kicks say 7-12 there is all of a sudden 6+ goals & the biggest pressure of all imho is scoreboard pressure
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