trial game 7/3/09 central v glenelg

[Brucetiki]

Final Score

Centrals 11.11.77
Glenelg 15.6.96

Centrals had their chances, getting the margin back to 7 but sprayed a few.

All up, not a bad hitout for the first trail game of the year for Centrals, and with a couple of players out.

[TroyGFC]

How did the 2's go?

[am Bays]

How did the 2's go?

Scores not important but the Bays won pretty easily.

Given the ladder position of the Centrals 17 and 19s last year and the handicap clubs face in not being able to nurture late developers in the U/19s this year I would think Centrals reserves might struggle given that SANFL clubs now have to play kids in the ressies this year before they are quite ready if they want to keep them in their clubs.

Please note I'm not criticising Centrals 2s, just the new system Centrals and Glenelg argued strongly against last year.

The main game from the half I saw Centrals looked well short of a run and like us I imagine are in petty heavy training ATM with an eye on Rd 1 rather than this game, e.g. McKenzie playing at CHF rather than in ruck for most of that half.

Best thing for us was that by and large our obvious deficiencies agaisnt Norwood last week we vastly improved on, namely our attack on the footy.

Still a long way to go though for both teams

[Big Phil]

Hey Guys,

I headed out to Elizabeth today to watch the Doggies in their first trial game of season 2009.They took on their opponent from last years Grand Final, the Glenelg Tigers.

RESERVES:

GLENELG – 4.4 9.8 11.15 15.17 = 107

CENTRAL – 1.1 2.1 3.2 4.4 = 28


GOAL KICKERS:

GLENELG – J.Trembath 5, A.Day, N.Ramsey 2, A.Carey, M.Liebelt, N.Cane, R.O’Grady, S.Snook, L.Clayson 1

CENTRAL – J.Hannath 2, T.Dimasi, S.Atkinson 1


A fairly innacurate Glenelg side comfortable accounted for a very inexperieced Centrals outfit in the earlier game. The Bays controlled the game all day and if not for some poor kicking on goal, could have won by a lot more than the final margin of 79 points. Josh Trembath was impressive for the visitors up forward kicking 5 goals 5 but could have easily have finished with 7 or 8 for the day. Jack Hannath was the only multiple goal kicker for the Dogs who struggled to get the ball into their forward line with any effeciency.

Aaron Day was impressive as a focal point across half forward and Shannon Snook won plenty of the ball across the half forward line. Alex Carey, showed some good signs wearing Matthew Bode’s old number 10 and Brad Sugars and Michael Liebelt were solid in defence. Former Eagles Tom Cocuh impressed again winning his fair share o the ball and Seb Gilhaus did well in the ruck before leaving the ground at half time to participate in the league game.

Usual forward Thomas Dunne was impressive in the key defensive post while Jayden Kelly and Matthew Foldesdy were hard workers on the ball and across half forward. The Dogs reserves side will certainly improve as the season closes in with up to 12 league players to come back into their senior side meaning players who were in the league side will be forced back into the reserves. The Bays wil be happy wih their win while the home side knows there is plenty of room for improvement.


LEAGUE:

GLENELG - 3.2 10.5 12.5 15.6 = 96

CENTRAL - 3.0 5.2 8.6 11.11 = 77


GOAL KICKERS:

GLENELG – M.Duldig 4, J.Hinge 3, J.Fosdike 2, B.Backwell, M.Ruwoldt, B.Donnelly, P.Adlington, T.Logan, J.McConnell 1

CENTRAL – D.Allocca 3, M.Frail, E.Sansbury 2, D.Rampe, L.Habel, L.Spurr, C.Gowans

BETTER PLAYERS:

GLENELG – M.Duldig, J.Hinge, J.Willoughby, J.Fosdike, B.Backwell, R.Kirkby, B.Mules, T.Logan

CENTRAL – J.Giles, R.Williams, I.Callinan, K.Jenner, J.Hardy, D.Allocca, P.Thomas, L.Habel


With only 8 premiership players from last year, Centrals took the opportunity to blood some of their youngsters and fringe players. The Bays were impressive in the first half in particular leading by 32 points at half time before seeming to run out of puff in the second half to hold of a spirited Doggies comeback and run out winners by 19 points. Matthew Duldig was very impressive from full forward outclassing his young opponent in Damien Hynes with strong marking and accurate goal kicking to have 4 first half goals before spending the second half in defence.

Jonathon Giles and Trevor Cranston had an intruiging battle in the ruck throughout most of the day with Power listed Giles impressig with his work at the stoppages and around the ground. John Hinge, being used by coach Mark Mickan as a forward in the early trials also impressed for the visitors finishing with 3 goals. Young and raw NSW recruit Mitch Fragile showed some promise playing out of full forward for the Dogs but will need to work on his physique on the gym to get the bigger body to be stronger in the one on one contests. Ian Callinan showed his class on the ball for the home side but failed to finish on a coupe of goal kicking opportunities while Rory Kirkby worked hard to present well across half forward for the Bays.

Eddie Sansbury had some good moments in his first game back after being delisted by the Kangaroos, finishing with 2 goals spending time on the ball and restig up forward. Former North Adelaide and Norwood forward David Allocca was very impressive playing up forward and on the ball finishing as the home sides leading goal kicker with 3 majors. Josh Willoughby won plenty of the ball through the midfield for the Tigers while young Jack Fosdike bobbd up with 2 impressive goals. Young Crows rookie Ricky Henderson showed some promise playing in the back half for the Dogs while Tasmanian recruit Justin Hardy was also solid in defence.

Much maligned Justin McConnell had a few good moments for the Bays playing on the ball and up forward while Tom Logan, who was dropped by the Power showed his AFL experience and was a solid contributor in the win. Former Port Magpies player Kyle Jenner showed he will be a class player for Centrals and Luke Habel, from country NSW, showed some good poise and class at various stages. Mark Mickan will be keen to address the Bays slow finish, letting the Dogs almost pinch the game towards the end while Roy Laird will be impressed with some of his younger players who took the most of their opportunities.

[bayman]

i would think both clubs would be happy with what they saw, can someone explain to me why vallance got a free kick given against him when he imho hip'n'shouldered gowans when doing a shepperd, i know the afl is trying to scrap it but i thought it was still in the rules....both vallance & gowans seemed very bemused by this ruling

[Dog_ger]

20 days before seasons start Bayman.

Bring it on....

Dogs will do fine in 2009

[Big Phil]

How did the 2's go?

Scores not important but the Bays won pretty easily.

Given the ladder position of the Centrals 17 and 19s last year and the handicap clubs face in not being able to nurture late developers in the U/19s this year I would think Centrals reserves might struggle given that SANFL clubs now have to play kids in the ressies this year before they are quite ready if they want to keep them in their clubs.

Please note I'm not criticising Centrals 2s, just the new system Centrals and Glenelg argued strongly against last year.

The main game from the half I saw Centrals looked well short of a run and like us I imagine are in petty heavy training ATM with an eye on Rd 1 rather than this game, e.g. McKenzie playing at CHF rather than in ruck for most of that half.

Best thing for us was that by and large our obvious deficiencies agaisnt Norwood last week we vastly improved on, namely our attack on the footy.

Still a long way to go though for both teams

1980TM,

What you have to remember is that our league side yesterday was probably just under half of full strenght, we still have up to a dozen premiership players to come back into the league side meaning half a dozen that played in the trial yesterday will be forced back into the reserves adding much more depth than yesterdays reserves performance would indicate.

Plus there would have been another 5 or 6 reserves starters from last years side that were rested yesterday so we will have plenty of depth and I honestly think we could see a top 3 finish from the reserves sid. Just to give you an idea, there were a few missing from both games yesterday that include names such as Hadden, Lawry, L.Westhoff, O'Sullivan, Cochrane, Dutschke, Hayes, Schell, Moss, Sibenaler, Havelberg, O'Hara, M.Westhoff, Brading and Slade. Straight away, you can clearly see there will be plenty of depth this year.

[NFC]

What's wrong with James Moss? Why isn't he playing?

[Dogmatic]

What's wrong with James Moss? Why isn't he playing?

He probably went to Berri with the Crows.

[Brucetiki]

What's wrong with James Moss? Why isn't he playing?

Moss played in the second half.

[NFC]

What's wrong with James Moss? Why isn't he playing?

Moss played in the second half.

Why only the second half? Surely he wasn't one of those reserves/half a league players?

Thanks for the reply.

[whufc]

What's wrong with James Moss? Why isn't he playing?

Moss played in the second half.

Moss didn't play in the second half that was a new lad borrowing the number 30 guernsey and Moss was there watching all day so not sure what the reason was.

NFC, you are spot on regarding Henderson, IMHO he was by far our best player, runs hard with pace, carries through the lines. His disposal was slightly off but that can be worked on and will get better with game time. He looks like a gem and will definately push for a League spot.

The best part for me about the game was that it was the Dogs younger players that stepped up and were probably in the best like Henderson, Frail, Jenner and Hardy.

[JK]

What's wrong with James Moss? Why isn't he playing?

Moss played in the second half.

Moss didn't play in the second half that was a new lad borrowing the number 30 guernsey and Moss was there watching all day so not sure what the reason was.

NFC, you are spot on regarding Henderson, IMHO he was by far our best player, runs hard with pace, carries through the lines. His disposal was slightly off but that can be worked on and will get better with game time. He looks like a gem and will definately push for a League spot.

The best part for me about the game was that it was the Dogs younger players that stepped up and were probably in the best like Henderson, Frail, Jenner and Hardy.

If kicking is the part needing work, then probably a perfect placement for the lad (and Crows) having him at the Dogs, who have been the most damaging club by foot in quite some time.

[bayman]

i must admit i didn't get a list of the players name so can someone tell me who was the player that wore number 20 (for central) i thought he looked good

[Big Phil]

i must admit i didn't get a list of the players name so can someone tell me who was the player that wore number 20 (for central) i thought he looked good

Bayman, that was Adelaide Crows rookie listed player and basketball convert Ricky Henderson...

He did do a couple of nice things and despite being touted as a forward, I thought he looked very good as a running defender...

[bayman]

i must admit i didn't get a list of the players name so can someone tell me who was the player that wore number 20 (for central) i thought he looked good

Bayman, that was Adelaide Crows rookie listed player and basketball convergt Ricky Henderson...

He did do a couple of nice things and despute being touted as a forward, I thought he looked very good as a running defender...

thanks bp, i thought he looked good

[whufc]

Just on the umpires, i thought they did a pretty reasonable job and the interpretations are SOOOOOOOOOO much better in the SANFL compared to the AFL.

BUT something that always happens which amuses me, is when two players wrestle on the ground behind play and one grabs the other player around the head they generally get a free kick.

My amusement comes in that shouldn't both players be penalised for holding the man, and im sure most times they push each other in the back and break various other rules. BUT it always seems the guy who grabs high gets the free kick against them.

Has anyone else observed this.

[Voice]

Just on the umpires, i thought they did a pretty reasonable job and the interpretations are SOOOOOOOOOO much better in the SANFL compared to the AFL.

BUT something that always happens which amuses me, is when two players wrestle on the ground behind play and one grabs the other player around the head they generally get a free kick.

My amusement comes in that shouldn't both players be penalised for holding the man, and im sure most times they push each other in the back and break various other rules. BUT it always seems the guy who grabs high gets the free kick against them.

Has anyone else observed this.

Yeah, you're right whufc. There are quite a few infringements leading up to the high contact that could be paid but are left alone (as they should be). They should let the high contact go if it is only a headlock but they rarely do.
Striking is another matter of course and should be dealt with but let the rest of it go as it doesn't impact on any contested ball. As soon as the ball comes in there direction they let eachother go and proceed to the ball anyway. No harm done.

[smac]

How did the 2's go?

Scores not important but the Bays won pretty easily.

Given the ladder position of the Centrals 17 and 19s last year and the handicap clubs face in not being able to nurture late developers in the U/19s this year I would think Centrals reserves might struggle given that SANFL clubs now have to play kids in the ressies this year before they are quite ready if they want to keep them in their clubs.

Please note I'm not criticising Centrals 2s, just the new system Centrals and Glenelg argued strongly against last year.

The main game from the half I saw Centrals looked well short of a run and like us I imagine are in petty heavy training ATM with an eye on Rd 1 rather than this game, e.g. McKenzie playing at CHF rather than in ruck for most of that half.

Best thing for us was that by and large our obvious deficiencies agaisnt Norwood last week we vastly improved on, namely our attack on the footy.

Still a long way to go though for both teams

1980TM,

What you have to remember is that our league side yesterday was probably just under half of full strenght, we still have up to a dozen premiership players to come back into the league side meaning half a dozen that played in the trial yesterday will be forced back into the reserves adding much more depth than yesterdays reserves performance would indicate.

Plus there would have been another 5 or 6 reserves starters from last years side that were rested yesterday so we will have plenty of depth and I honestly think we could see a top 3 finish from the reserves sid. Just to give you an idea, there were a few missing from both games yesterday that include names such as Hadden, Lawry, L.Westhoff, O'Sullivan, Cochrane, Dutschke, Hayes, Schell, Moss, Sibenaler, Havelberg, O'Hara, M.Westhoff, Brading and Slade. Straight away, you can clearly see there will be plenty of depth this year.

Despite that Phil, he is spot on. Our reserves will struggle for all of the reasons outlined.