glenelg v central

[Dutchy]

Anyone know the crowd figure at Tigerland today ?

dont know officially but it was very similar to the North game which was around 4700 from memory??

[Dutchy]

Don't anyone complain about the condition of Elizabeth Oval after seeing the mud pit in the middle at the Bay today.

silly comment, apart from the cricket pitch (which nothing can be done about) the rest of the oval was suprisingly good...how quick people forget the "good old days"

[Dutchy]

now who was that idiot during the week on a forum that predicted this was one of the games of the year so far if not the game of the year???

6-1 to 2 points now. Geez how are some of the bay fans going to cope after the past 3 weeks of belieivng they were some sort of genuine threat this year???

old Black Plastic dissappeared pretty quick after this comment....probably had to rearrange the sock drawer...

[bayman]

Anyone know the crowd figure at Tigerland today ?

dont know officially but it was very similar to the North game which was around 4700 from memory??

i would have thought around 3,800 to 4,300

[MatteeG]

Don't anyone complain about the condition of Elizabeth Oval after seeing the mud pit in the middle at the Bay today.

They played 4 games on it over 2 days, as Elizabeth was not able to be used for the U17/U19 games after a stolen car was apparently used to carve it up. Thought the oval was in good nick bar the traditional July Gluepot in the centre...

[Wedgie]

Don't anyone complain about the condition of Elizabeth Oval after seeing the mud pit in the middle at the Bay today.

Why can't we complain about them both?

[Brucetiki]

It was a pretty good crowd out there today, and quite a few Centrals supporters which were good. The Glenelg supporters were pretty quiet IMO - cheering louder for the Gowans report than for any of their goals (I'm not criticising Glenelg supporters for doing this as I do the same thing, but it shouldn't be the loudest cheer of the game). Perhaps this could be included as a contributing factor to the loss as well.

The umpiring was disgusting, considering we had 3 very experienced umps out there in Dey, Grun and Rowston - many errors made by these three, I expected better.

One thing I've noticed about the Centrals v Glenelg games this year is that it's been a 6 goal burst by Centrals in each game (trial game - last 6 goals, heritage game - 6 goals late in 3rd/early in 4th, today - first 6 goals) that has pretty much been the difference.

[Dutchy]

yeah as I said pre-match I think the midfields are very evenly matched with these 2 teams, Dogs have better depth around the ground and more efficient up forward

[BPBRB]

now who was that idiot during the week on a forum that predicted this was one of the games of the year so far if not the game of the year???

6-1 to 2 points now. Geez how are some of the bay fans going to cope after the past 3 weeks of belieivng they were some sort of genuine threat this year???

old Black Plastic dissappeared pretty quick after this comment....probably had to rearrange the sock drawer...

No sorry to disappoint you Dutchy, I'm still here.

I will say though looking at the stats from all their games Glenelg has been the most competitive 4 quarter side all season (not including Centrals for obvious reasons) win, lose or draw and in all their games and including today (wasn't lookin good early though) they been in a position to win in all of their losses. So maybe their current ladder position doesn't do their form or workrate justice but what is missing that has stopped them winning those games?

[Dutchy]

agree they didnt play well early, some of the recruits didnt seem to gel well until now...BUT while we lost those early games we didnt get beaten by more than 4 goals, so we wernt far off....still a long long way to go though

[BPBRB]

agree they didnt play well early, some of the recruits didnt seem to gel well until now...BUT while we lost those early games we didnt get beaten by more than 4 goals, so we wernt far off....still a long long way to go though

That's my point Dutchy - what is the missing link as you haven't been beaten by any great margin and threw away one game to West? Is it one more key forward maybe? You seem to have plethora of mid size running blokes?

[TroyGFC]

Any Central supporters go back to Lizebeth after game for prezies?
glenelgs were 1. cranstan 2. Rudolf 1.Mules
I thought Scheel was all class, out marked our boys all day.

[am Bays]

agree they didnt play well early, some of the recruits didnt seem to gel well until now...BUT while we lost those early games we didnt get beaten by more than 4 goals, so we wernt far off....still a long long way to go though

That's my point Dutchy - what is the missing link as you haven't been beaten by any great margin and threw away one game to West? Is it one more key forward maybe? You seem to have plethora of mid size running blokes?

IF we can keep our mid-fielders for next year (who knows ho wants to go or stay) every man and his dog knows that we need a couple of key position players....

[Dutchy]

yeah the small forward line was an issue today, Schell just swallowed any high bombs...hard to put it down to one thing but think your right, give us a Chambers or even Waterhouse we would be much higher....still think Sellar can be a wildcard later int he season up there

any mention of Hinge Troy?

[Grahaml]

Felt the dogs had it under their control from quarter time onwards. Always had the bays far enough away to run in fairly comfortable winners. The only time it looked like there was a reasonable challenge we kicked a goal straight away. At least that's what it felt like. Not much in the Gowans report IMHO, just an attempt to intimidate a guy shepherding and his forearm seemed to hit the shoulder and slip up to the guys head. Free kick fair enough but should get a reprimand at absolute worst if it even gets that far.

Thought the difference was that the dogs took chances early, then did what was needed. In the end, this is my main thought from the game. Grima, Schell, Griffin and Hayes destroyed their marking hopes up forward all day long. The rest did enough to register the 2 points and get as close to sewing up the minor premiership as you can get in early July.

As for whether the dogs flood or not, it depends on what you consider a flood. I think a flood is when you instruct several players to play behind the ball most of the time. The dogs don't do that. We try to play in front of the ball as often as possible. When the opposition have the ball, in front of the ball is in the opposition forward lines. Then on a turnover we run like buggery to get back towards our attacking 50. IMHO this is a big difference. If you call this a flood, then we do. And we will keep doing this so if you don't like it get used to losing because this system works better than anything else being tried that I've seen. Also, at one point it looked like 2 of the 3 bays defenders actually in the defensive half at one point ran their forwards into Glenelg's attacking area. Seemed crazy to me, but they were each about 5m in front of their opponents so wouldn't have been chasing surely.

Thought the umpiring was poor. Not going to comment on whether it was an advantage to one side or not, but overall was just so inconsistent. Some very soft frees were paid, some softer 25m penalties were paid while many incidents of the same thing not being penalised occured. Umpires performed about as well as Norwood last week IMHO.

Looking at the bays, they were better than I expected, and better than the last time we played them but still don't look up to it. Were given a lot of drive by sheer fact that they had so many free kicks in the midfield yet couldn't really threaten for the win except for a couple of minutes. Tall players are needed desperately and the ones there don't seem quite up to the standard.

[Jimmy]

ah, the morning sucks!!

anyway, seriously, bays did well to keep it within 4 goals as i thought it would have been a bigger margin. sounds as if the bays had their chances too with bad kicking letting them down.

[therisingblues]

I agree Jimmy, looks as though the Bays have the character that makes a great side. They took the game right up to the Dogs, and without actually seeing the game, I guess put themselves in a position where they could have taken the points. It looks as though we have another real player in this years race.

[mighty_tiger_79]

GrahamL i actually thought we were better at elizabeth then today.

i think the umps did a big job in reducing our losing deficit

[TroyGFC]

any mention of Hinge Troy?

Nup

[Dirko]

The problem for the Bays yesterday, was we matched the dogs in the middle, our defense held their own BUT too many high & indirect kicks into the forward line which Schell just chewed up. Would be very interested to see how many grabs Schell took within 25 meteres of the Bay goals.
Overall a good game, and I though the ground was OK.