Port Magpies to be dissolved. Is it true?

[tigerhutch]

Collywobbles must be the most embarrassing club in world history. How hard is it for them to come up with an alternative guernsey. It aint rocket science !!!!!!

Does anyone know how much debt the port magpies are in ?

[Barto]

Even Manchester United are able to have different strips. Collingwood seem to think they're better than that.

[Big Phil]

Collywobbles must be the most embarrassing club in world history. How hard is it for them to come up with an alternative guernsey. It aint rocket science !!!!!!

Does anyone know how much debt the port magpies are in ?

I believe they are in debt around the $200,000 mark, which I think the Advertiser released publically, along with the financial status other clubs, earlier in the year.

[tigerhutch]

thanks, doesnt sound like enough debt to cause the club to fold. Surely they can turn it around.

[smac]

thanks, doesnt sound like enough debt to cause the club to fold. Surely they can turn it around.

That would depend on the type of debt. A loan(s) of $200k that is being serviced is fine. If they are not paying bills to the tune of $200k then they are insolvent and in danger of being wound up.

[UK Fan]

thanks, doesnt sound like enough debt to cause the club to fold. Surely they can turn it around.

That would depend on the type of debt. A loan(s) of $200k that is being serviced is fine. If they are not paying bills to the tune of $200k then they are insolvent and in danger of being wound up.

Dont the Port Magpies supply a revenue stream to the Powder by paying rent on Alberton Oval. ????

Why didnt Port just accept the AFL loan and agree to lower onfield expenses. Surely a better option than all of this Crying poor/blaming SANFL agreement. Plus destroy all its tradition in the SANFL.

[Macca19]

Im not sure that Port own Alberton Oval

[Punk Rooster]

Collywobbles must be the most embarrassing club in world history.

Sorry, Glenelg own that title...

[dedja]

Collywobbles must be the most embarrassing club in world history.

Sorry, Glenelg own that title...

Yes, I'd have to agree ... let's face it, the Bays only beat North to win the last 3 flags which really doesn't count for much.

[therisingblues]

Punk, I can't be bothered answering you point for point, so I will keep this as general as possible.
First, I never start with a conclusion and work backwards, I believe that a conclusion is something that is arrived at after all arguments, pros and cons have been considered.
The pros and cons are that there are three blue and white clubs. So it was never set in stone about how one club owned exclusive rights to any set of colours. The competition is called the Australian Football League thus comprising the best clubs from around Australia, you yourself admit that the old VFL and SANFL were on an equal footing, so old records and histories from those old leagues should be considered equal.
But the old histories are not considered equal, that's why Farmer isn't considered the best full forward ever, because he didn't play VFL. This fact seems to be completely lost on you!
So in short, the most successful club in Australia becomes a part of the Australian league and finds itself having to cow-tow to a bunch of arrogant, second-rate little Hitlers that want to claim "ownership" of colours, when it seems perfectly alright for other sides to share colours.
My conclusion after considering the above is that the Port Magpies should be allowed to wear whatever colours they like in the AFL.
I guess we need only look at the list of teams you follow to understand that you had a pre-established conclusion and will only settle for any point of view that agrees with that end, or twist another view to suit it.
Sometimes your complete lack of cognitive activity makes me wonder how the North folk suffer you.

Heart Beats True: Following your logic, I guess Port could change its colours to Black, with the White there just to make a design?

[Punk Rooster]

Punk, I can't be bothered answering you point for point, so I will keep this as general as possible.
First, I never start with a conclusion and work backwards, I believe that a conclusion is something that is arrived at after all arguments, pros and cons have been considered.
The pros and cons are that there are three blue and white clubs. So it was never set in stone about how one club owned exclusive rights to any set of colours. The competition is called the Australian Football League thus comprising the best clubs from around Australia, you yourself admit that the old VFL and SANFL were on an equal footing, so old records and histories from those old leagues should be considered equal.
But the old histories are not considered equal, that's why Farmer isn't considered the best full forward ever, because he didn't play VFL. This fact seems to be completely lost on you!
So in short, the most successful club in Australia becomes a part of the Australian league and finds itself having to cow-tow to a bunch of arrogant, second-rate little Hitlers that want to claim "ownership" of colours, when it seems perfectly alright for other sides to share colours.
My conclusion after considering the above is that the Port Magpies should be allowed to wear whatever colours they like in the AFL.
I guess we need only look at the list of teams you follow to understand that you had a pre-established conclusion and will only settle for any point of view that agrees with that end, or twist another view to suit it.
Sometimes your complete lack of cognitive activity makes me wonder how the North folk suffer you.

Heart Beats True: Following your logic, I guess Port could change its colours to Black, with the White there just to make a design?

I must be an Aspy enemy....

[tipper]

Punk, I can't be bothered answering you point for point, so I will keep this as general as possible.
First, I never start with a conclusion and work backwards, I believe that a conclusion is something that is arrived at after all arguments, pros and cons have been considered.
The pros and cons are that there are three blue and white clubs. So it was never set in stone about how one club owned exclusive rights to any set of colours. The competition is called the Australian Football League thus comprising the best clubs from around Australia, you yourself admit that the old VFL and SANFL were on an equal footing, so old records and histories from those old leagues should be considered equal.
But the old histories are not considered equal, that's why Farmer isn't considered the best full forward ever, because he didn't play VFL. This fact seems to be completely lost on you!
So in short, the most successful club in Australia becomes a part of the Australian league and finds itself having to cow-tow to a bunch of arrogant, second-rate little Hitlers that want to claim "ownership" of colours, when it seems perfectly alright for other sides to share colours.
My conclusion after considering the above is that the Port Magpies should be allowed to wear whatever colours they like in the AFL.
I guess we need only look at the list of teams you follow to understand that you had a pre-established conclusion and will only settle for any point of view that agrees with that end, or twist another view to suit it.
Sometimes your complete lack of cognitive activity makes me wonder how the North folk suffer you.

Heart Beats True: Following your logic, I guess Port could change its colours to Black, with the White there just to make a design?

It isnt just about the colours though, it is about how they are arranged on the guernsey. The three clubs with blue and white have a different "pattern" with the same colours. North Melbourne dont have horizontal blue and white stripes like Geelong, neither do Carlton. The power do have black and white on their design, there is also silver and teal. they were allowed to use the same colours as collingwod, just not the design.

How ridiculous would it be having two clubs with exactly the same design? You dont think that may cause even more of an identity problem? And you are still ignoring the fact that Collingwood were a part of the AFL before the Power joined. Just because the power have the more successful "history" does that mean a team that was there first should have to change to accomodate them? First in Best dressed......

[Psyber]

Collywobbles must be the most embarrassing club in world history. How hard is it for them to come up with an alternative guernsey. It aint rocket science !!!!!!
Does anyone know how much debt the port magpies are in ?

I believe they are in debt around the $200,000 mark, which I think the Advertiser released publically, along with the financial status other clubs, earlier in the year.

Hmm.. so I could perhaps buy the PAMFC for that and donate it to Norwood ensuring the ongoing humiliation of the PAMFC...

[HeartBeatsTrue]

Heart Beats True: Following your logic, I guess Port could change its colours to Black, with the White there just to make a design?

And by your logic, Sturt should not be called the double blues as all shades of blue are the same.
Port probably could have dropped their "white" and be known as just being "black" to get around Collingwood's "ownership" of the colour combo but I dont think that would appeal with existing or new supporters.

[Wedgie]

Guys, if you want to talk about Collingwood's guernsey design take it to the AFL forum please as some people come to the SANFL forum to avoid the AFL talk.
Thank you.

[therisingblues]

Guys, if you want to talk about Collingwood's guernsey design take it to the AFL forum please as some people come to the SANFL forum to avoid the AFL talk.
Thank you.

Done.
Anyone interested in continuing this debate click here http://www.safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23091

[UK Fan]

Well according to Ruccis article in todays advertiser its the SANFL clubs fault now. ANybody else surprised.

How long until the story comes out of the 8 SANFL clubs conspired without Port Magpies knowledge with Geelong. Thats what made Port Adelaide lose the 2007 GF by a record 119 points.

Any chance Port Power itslef could accept the blame for not running to a budget. Silly suggestion i know but i just thought Id throw it out their. Ive heard its the SANFL's ,The 9 SANFL clubs, and now its the Port Magpies fault.

Any VFL clubs getting the blame for Melbournes financial difficulties ?????

Correct me if Im wrong hasnt Port just received $3 mill in handouts via the SANFL ($2 mill) and AFL (1 mill) in the last month.

ANd your still bitching ????

And this was the better alternative than cutting your on field expenses and receiving financial assistance from the AwFuL Haysman. This is your definition of "toughing it out". YOu are an embarrasment.

What a great football club you are Port. No wonder a percentage of your old fans can not stand you anymore.

[Dogwatcher]

There are some fine points amongst that UKF.

I read that article with incredulity this morning.

I feel sorry for Port supporters at the moment as between Rucci and others (involved with the club or not) thrashing out their club's history and revising it seemingly at will, it must be very confusing.

I get the feeling this whole situation will test the loyalty of many Port fans. As for attracting others? This unseemly debate going on must be causing the marketing departments all sorts of nightmares.

[am Bays]

I actually thought it was a great piece of work by the Rucc

Should make the short list for the Booker Prize, an outstanding work of fiction...

[UK Fan]

There are some fine points amongst that.

I read that article with incredulity this morning.

I feel sorry for Port supporters at the moment as between Rucci and others (involved with the club or not) thrashing out their club's history and revising it seemingly at will, it must be very confusing.

I get the feeling this whole situation will test the loyalty of many Port fans. As for attracting others? This unseemly debate going on must be causing the marketing departments all sorts of nightmares.

Disgraceful article. SANFL clubs will be accused of having Weapons Of Mass Destruction next.

We made Port move to Ethelton now. Let me guess it is the 8 SANFL clubs that demand the Power charges the Magpies rent to use Alberton.

Are these experts sure Ports financial situation has nothing to do with the fact Port have the poorest attendance of any afl club in the league ???

I feel sorry for the netball team they sponsor. Theyll obviously be the next scapegoat.

BTW best of luck Port increasing your crowds when you are playing the likes of West Sydney and Gold Coast in a couple of years. No chance.