Player MOVEMENTS and DISCUSSION for 2013

[SANFLnut]

I asked this in the other thread and never got an answer so I'll ask it again Beenreal.
Would you be happy for Port to be playing in a league with such an unfair advantage. One where the other teams played to a totally different salary cap and access to players?
Also, would you be happy if Adelaide got the go ahead for a reserves team in the SANFL league and Port didn't?

is it fair for port power/crows to recruit guys from interstate set them up in adelaide and have a opposite sanfl club stuff around with the development of that player? the current system isn't fair as it is. A sanfl team could have all of their afl recruits playing afl while playing against another sanfl team that has all of theirs available. Bit hard to say it's a unfair situation when the current situation isn't fair.

The current system is not perfect in terms of fairness to SANFL clubs and how AFL players may impact results.
On balance it should impact all clubs equally.
Your favoured system is clearly biased in favour of one club and negatively impacts all others.
You can't seriously suggest it is a fairer solution.

Is it fair that Port and Crows save about 350k a year by not having to resource their own reserves team and yet the SANFL clubs allow their players to engage in high level, competitive football week in, week out for no charge?

[SANFLnut]

You knew the rules before you joined the afl. It's in writing.

and isn't that why we are putting in a proposal to change this? it's also not in in writing that we can't move players to the magpies but that doesn't seem to stop people having a cry does it?

Pretty sure there are a number of things in writing as an SANFL/AFL player exchange agreement. This includes the procedure to follow if an AFL player moves SANFL clubs. Certain that these conditions have not been adhered to by Port in last 2 years.

[The Sleeping Giant]

You knew the rules before you joined the afl. It's in writing.

and isn't that why we are putting in a proposal to change this? it's also not in in writing that we can't move players to the magpies but that doesn't seem to stop people having a cry does it?

Wrong again.

[hereselmo1]

Fo you think South, Sturt or Glenelg will want to pay a transfer fee for 10 weeks?

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[Dogwatcher]

You mean apart from the fact Port Adelaide are the ones paying him.

Doesn't matter. Liverpool doesn't have a say when its players are loaned to another club, as an example. The loan process seems to work in the game played right across the world. All AFL players in the SANFL are essentially on loan, so why do the Crows and Power have to get what they want?

Totally wrong type of example there DW. When a player is loaned out, the host club pay all wages and play the player as they see fit. If the original club ie Liverpool want to play him in a set position etc then they play him in their own reserves team.

That's not as I understand it, Mickey. I could be wrong though and happy to admit it if I am, unlike some others here.

[Dogwatcher]

Here's the bit I read:

Players may be loaned out to other clubs for several reasons. Most commonly, young players will be loaned to a club in a lower league in order to gain valuable first team experience. In this instance, the parent club will continue to pay the player's wages in full. - Wikipedia, Loan (sports)

[Dogwatcher]

And, of course, there are other contingencies where the clubs who is loaned the player pays, etc.

[mickey]

You mean apart from the fact Port Adelaide are the ones paying him.

Doesn't matter. Liverpool doesn't have a say when its players are loaned to another club, as an example. The loan process seems to work in the game played right across the world. All AFL players in the SANFL are essentially on loan, so why do the Crows and Power have to get what they want?

Totally wrong type of example there DW. When a player is loaned out, the host club pay all wages and play the player as they see fit. If the original club ie Liverpool want to play him in a set position etc then they play him in their own reserves team.

That's not as I understand it, Mickey. I could be wrong though and happy to admit it if I am, unlike some others here.

There is generally 2 reasons for a football club loaning out their players.

1. A young player, usually out of the academy, who isn't yet up to the level required to play in the premier league. These players are loaned to teams a division or 2 below, with the aim to gain experience in playing 1st team football.

2. An experienced player. Let's use Andy Carroll for an example. He was loaned to West Ham United as he fell behind in the pecking order of forwards at Liverpool. Rather than having a player on maybe 80 grand a week sitting on the bench not playing or even not in the match day squad, they send him on loan to whufc who need a player of his quality. They pick up the wage, or an agreed % of it.

The deals for experienced players usually have a clause in them in regards to purchasing the player for the next season.

It's rare that the club who owns a player ever recalls them mid loan. Usually its because of injuries in the squad leaving them short of players in that position.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Fo you think South, Sturt or Glenelg will want to pay a transfer fee for 10 weeks?

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Is he getting delisted at the end of the year?

[Madrooster]

I believe the exedous from South has begun - 2 league players (one is one of their better players) fronting management tonight requesting clearances before June 30 - but not to league clubs - big country offers.

[CENTURION]

I believe the exedous from South has begun - 2 league players (one is one of their better players) fronting management tonight requesting clearances before June 30 - but not to league clubs - big country offers.

Snorter Stribling & Buster the Body Crabb?

[Madrooster]

One out of two there!

[southee]

I believe the exedous from South has begun - 2 league players (one is one of their better players) fronting management tonight requesting clearances before June 30 - but not to league clubs - big country offers.

Here we go !!

Let the madness begin at South !!!

Only 2 league players????

[prowling panther]

xcuse me while I sneeze?

[bloods08]

xcuse me while I sneeze?

Xavier Gotch and Roland Ah Chee?

[southee]

xcuse me while I sneeze?

Stribs ???

[prowling panther]

xcuse me while I sneeze?

Stribs ???

Both those names (Stribs @Achee)have been mentioned to me by separate people who seem to be up with things in footy circles, although they have been known to be way off mark at times, more will come out later I would imagine

[Gozu]

When did Brad Moran come out of retirement for Westies?

[CENTURION]

When did Brad Moran come out of retirement for Westies?

when the bandwagon stopped at his house

[JK]

xcuse me while I sneeze?

Stribs ???

Both those names (Stribs @Achee)have been mentioned to me by separate people who seem to be up with things in footy circles, although they have been known to be way off mark at times, more will come out later I would imagine

There's also some whispers about some better qualified players heading to a VFL club next year.