AFL Reserves Discussion...

[CUTTERMAN]

Well now that you put it like that.

[LPH]

OK... so that's all fine then, everybody is happy

[prowling panther]

Here is another twist to the plot.

Lets just say that the Magpies are able to force their way to a grand final berth in the SANFL, and the Power do not finish in the top 8 of the AFL, would that exclude any Power AFL listed player from playing for the Magpie in the Grand Final? Would that put the Magpies at a disadvantage over the other Grand Finalist who do not have to lose players while the Magpies could have to non select up to 8 or 10 players who are AFL listed and have played for the Magpies throughout the season.

Makes one wonder.

[kickinit]

Are you that thick? The whole process for any change is being driven by the Crows and Port. Why does the SANFL have to justify anything? All that has been debated is that if Port wish to make these changes then something has to give. There is always the option open to them to decide that keeping the status quo will do. Once again the SANFL aren't the ones trying to change anything. If Port lose their zones, sell their soul etc. it's Port's doing, not the SANFL's.

i'm thick yet you seem to not understand what your saying. The SANFL aren't the ones changing anything, yet all Port want to do is move their AFL players to the Magpies. Port has always stated it wanted to keep it's jnr sides. So tell me who wants to change that? Why does Port having jnr sides have to give, it's gives them no advantage what so ever. And still no one on here can give an example of how it will.

Your juniors would have an advantage over ours for starters.
As Kochie said last night the Port juniors would train with the Power and have the benefit of senior coaches. He also mentioned that fitness coaches like Burgess would work with the juniors, how is that fair.
If the deal was to happen the Magpies teams must not be allowed to have any interaction with the AFL side of things at all.

And what's stopping port from doing this now. Not only that it would also mean some of this players could be picked up by other sanfl clubs when they finish playing jnrs. It could also mean we have more jnrs drafted to the afl, which will only make the sanfl stronger and entice more interstate recruits to come to Sa, which port won't be able to sign

[Booney]

Why should Port Adelaide get what no other AFL club has?

Recruiting Zone,
Exclusive U/18's & U16's

Just P1$$ off will you. You made your own bed when you stabbed everyone in the back in 1990 for your own personal gain and ruined our SANFL competition for your own greed!!!!!

Good to see you have moved on.

[tipper]

And what's stopping port from doing this now. Not only that it would also mean some of this players could be picked up by other sanfl clubs when they finish playing jnrs. It could also mean we have more jnrs drafted to the afl, which will only make the sanfl stronger and entice more interstate recruits to come to Sa, which port won't be able to sign

and ill ask you what you demand of everyone that is against the proposal. where is your proof that all of the drivel above will happen?? where is your proof that sa will have more juniors drafted to the afl? where is your proof that more interstate recruits will look to come here to the non reserves sides? its all just your wishing that there will be benefits.

yet when those against use examples of how reserves sides have ****** a league over, ie vfl and wafl, you claim that it isnt proof that it will happen here.....

tell you what, you take your list of wishes that this will be good for the comp and wish them into your left hand, and shit into your right hand. which one do you reckon will fill up first?

[beenreal]

Are you that thick? The whole process for any change is being driven by the Crows and Port. Why does the SANFL have to justify anything? All that has been debated is that if Port wish to make these changes then something has to give. There is always the option open to them to decide that keeping the status quo will do. Once again the SANFL aren't the ones trying to change anything. If Port lose their zones, sell their soul etc. it's Port's doing, not the SANFL's.

i'm thick yet you seem to not understand what your saying. The SANFL aren't the ones changing anything, yet all Port want to do is move their AFL players to the Magpies. Port has always stated it wanted to keep it's jnr sides. So tell me who wants to change that? Why does Port having jnr sides have to give, it's gives them no advantage what so ever. And still no one on here can give an example of how it will.

Your juniors would have an advantage over ours for starters.
As Kochie said last night the Port juniors would train with the Power and have the benefit of senior coaches. He also mentioned that fitness coaches like Burgess would work with the juniors, how is that fair.
If the deal was to happen the Magpies teams must not be allowed to have any interaction with the AFL side of things at all.

And what's stopping port from doing this now. Not only that it would also mean some of this players could be picked up by other sanfl clubs when they finish playing jnrs. It could also mean we have more jnrs drafted to the afl, which will only make the sanfl stronger and entice more interstate recruits to come to Sa, which port won't be able to sign

Very proud of Kochy's performance and the social-minded ethics of my club. As he said, (among many other great points for anyone who cared to listen objectively) so often AFL clubs get criticised for not giving back to their local community, so if the PAFC is going to be crucified for putting a focus on the development of junior footballers, happy to do so.

The fact so many are up in arms over this commitment says more about them than us

[sjt]

Are you that thick? The whole process for any change is being driven by the Crows and Port. Why does the SANFL have to justify anything? All that has been debated is that if Port wish to make these changes then something has to give. There is always the option open to them to decide that keeping the status quo will do. Once again the SANFL aren't the ones trying to change anything. If Port lose their zones, sell their soul etc. it's Port's doing, not the SANFL's.

i'm thick yet you seem to not understand what your saying. The SANFL aren't the ones changing anything, yet all Port want to do is move their AFL players to the Magpies. Port has always stated it wanted to keep it's jnr sides. So tell me who wants to change that? Why does Port having jnr sides have to give, it's gives them no advantage what so ever. And still no one on here can give an example of how it will.

Your juniors would have an advantage over ours for starters.
As Kochie said last night the Port juniors would train with the Power and have the benefit of senior coaches. He also mentioned that fitness coaches like Burgess would work with the juniors, how is that fair.
If the deal was to happen the Magpies teams must not be allowed to have any interaction with the AFL side of things at all.

And what's stopping port from doing this now. Not only that it would also mean some of this players could be picked up by other sanfl clubs when they finish playing jnrs. It could also mean we have more jnrs drafted to the afl, which will only make the sanfl stronger and entice more interstate recruits to come to Sa, which port won't be able to sign

Very proud of Kochy's performance and the social-minded ethics of my club. As he said, (among many other great points for anyone who cared to listen objectively) so often AFL clubs get criticised for not giving back to their local community, so if the PAFC is going to be crucified for putting a focus on the development of junior footballers, happy to do so.
K
The fact so many are up in arms over this commitment says more about them than us[/quote]


"Beenreal", PAFCs Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf.

[Jim05]

Your juniors would have an advantage over ours for starters.
As Kochie said last night the Port juniors would train with the Power and have the benefit of senior coaches. He also mentioned that fitness coaches like Burgess would work with the juniors, how is that fair.
If the deal was to happen the Magpies teams must not be allowed to have any interaction with the AFL side of things at all.

And what's stopping port from doing this now. Not only that it would also mean some of this players could be picked up by other sanfl clubs when they finish playing jnrs. It could also mean we have more jnrs drafted to the afl, which will only make the sanfl stronger and entice more interstate recruits to come to Sa, which port won't be able to sign

Ah yes, dont tell me Port lied again.
The One club debacle was meant to not give the SANFL sides a leg up.
The SANFL people responsible for allowing the merger to happen are a disgrace

[rod_rooster]

so often AFL clubs get criticised for not giving back to their local community

When exactly? Have you got an example?

[Dogwatcher]

Here's a question...in 1991 Woodville and West Torrens football clubs merged to become one club.
At the time, a 10 club competition in this state was not seen as sustainable.
Since that time, there has even been talk that, on a population basis, an eight-team competition might be more appropriate.
What would make a 10 team competition in SA feasible in 2014 and into the future when it hasn't been considered sustainable for over two decades?

[beenreal]

so often AFL clubs get criticised for not giving back to their local community

When exactly? Have you got an example?

There's about 1000 examples on this Forum alone.

[Dogwatcher]

Au contraire, AFL clubs do much for the community.
Admittedly, a lot are feel-good exercises, but there are also a lot of genuine programs that clubs are involved with that have significant benefit and contribute something meaningful to the community.
Port Adelaide's AFL entity actually does a lot of good.

However, piggybacking community contributions on the back of this campaign is just rubbish.

[Ronnie]

Au contraire, AFL clubs do much for the community.
Admittedly, a lot are feel-good exercises, but there are also a lot of genuine programs that clubs are involved with that have significant benefit and contribute something meaningful to the community.
Port Adelaide's AFL entity actually does a lot of good.

However, piggybacking community contributions on the back of this campaign is just rubbish.

Very true, particularly the last line.

[on the rails]

Au contraire, AFL clubs do much for the community.
Admittedly, a lot are feel-good exercises, but there are also a lot of genuine programs that clubs are involved with that have significant benefit and contribute something meaningful to the community.
Port Adelaide's AFL entity actually does a lot of good.

However, piggybacking community contributions on the back of this campaign is just rubbish.

I agree and it almost smacks of arrogance that an AFL club would use this as a lever which is insulting to each of the SANFL clubs who also contribute to their communities within their zones and not just football related.

[beenreal]

Au contraire, AFL clubs do much for the community.
Admittedly, a lot are feel-good exercises, but there are also a lot of genuine programs that clubs are involved with that have significant benefit and contribute something meaningful to the community.
Port Adelaide's AFL entity actually does a lot of good.

However, piggybacking community contributions on the back of this campaign is just rubbish.

I agree and it almost smacks of arrogance that an AFL club would use this as a lever which is insulting to each of the SANFL clubs who also contribute to their communities within their zones and not just football related.

Only your paranoid mindset would link a junior development program to a "lever" OTR.

But as I wrote before, it says more about you (and your signature) than the PAFC.

[Apachebulldog]

The Koch interview was a lot of CARP alot of self interest as every one knows Port Adelaide is just like there cousins over the border Collingwood they only do whats best for therir club and do not give a CARP about any othe club if some of you guys if you are so called true loyal Magpie supporters you would tell your ONE CLUB to **** OFF and that the Power reserves go and play in the VFA which every one knows is the PSEUDO AFL RESERVES COMPETITION.

The SANFL WILL BE DESTROYED look at the VFA average crowds are a 2000 per game the WAFL even lower do you all want this to happen in SA ?????

[Apachebulldog]

The Koch interview was a lot of CARP alot of self interest as every one knows Port Adelaide is just like there cousins over the border Collingwood they only do whats best for therir club and do not give a CARP about any othe club if some of you guys if you are so called true loyal Magpie supporters you would tell your ONE CLUB to **** OFF and that the Power reserves go and play in the VFA which every one knows is the PSEUDO AFL RESERVES COMPETITION.

The SANFL WILL BE DESTROYED look at the VFA average crowds are a 2000 per game the WAFL even lower do you all want this to happen in SA ?????[flash=][/flash]

[Dogwatcher]

Au contraire, AFL clubs do much for the community.
Admittedly, a lot are feel-good exercises, but there are also a lot of genuine programs that clubs are involved with that have significant benefit and contribute something meaningful to the community.
Port Adelaide's AFL entity actually does a lot of good.

However, piggybacking community contributions on the back of this campaign is just rubbish.

I agree and it almost smacks of arrogance that an AFL club would use this as a lever which is insulting to each of the SANFL clubs who also contribute to their communities within their zones and not just football related.

Only your paranoid mindset would link a junior development program to a "lever" OTR.

But as I wrote before, it says more about you (and your signature) than the PAFC.

Only your naivety or unwillingness to be contradicted would let you believe that every angle used in the discussion on this topic is not leverage to develop a strong argument for what each party wishes to achieve.

[Barto]

The SANFL WILL BE DESTROYED look at the VFA average crowds are a 2000 per game the WAFL even lower do you all want this to happen in SA ?????

Port do.