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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby Pseudo » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:40 pm

redden whites wrote:Are we not currently over there grovelling for bail outs???

"we" and "Port Power" are sets with a very small intersect.
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby bayman » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:44 pm

anyone read KG's article in the paper ? i haven't as i wont read the usual propaganda so i don't buy it, but was told about it today, apparently it makes for intersting reading
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby Gozu » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:29 pm

bayman wrote:anyone read KG's article in the paper ? i haven't as i wont read the usual propaganda so i don't buy it, but was told about it today, apparently it makes for intersting reading


I did and a good article too. How long until Rucci has KG booted from The Advertiser?

Ken Cunningham:

Let me strike some real fear into your hearts and minds. We could be on the brink of losing the SANFL, the competition that we've loved for 140 years, to the AFL juggernaut. The very future of our home grown comp has been put under severe pressure by the turmoil at Port Adelaide.

My biggest worry now is that when the AFL hands over it;'s fat cheque for $9 million to bail out broke and hapless PA, it's going to come with strings attached. Our financial crisis has opened the door for the AFL to flex it's muscle and a make a move to take control of the game here, something it has wanted to do for many years.

When Andrew Demetriou and Mike Fitzpatrick sit down with the SANFL's Leigh Whicker and John Olsen to thrash out the deal in Melbourne today, you can bet your last dollar they'll be laying down some stringent conditions.

They will want something in return for their money and high on their wish list will be a stronger say on the governance of football here. The AFLSA? God forbid!

And if they do get their way, I expect the slash and burn to begin, with key targets the player development fund and a reduction in the SANFL's salary cap which sits at a very modest $353,000.

It's a drop in the ocean compared with the AFL's massive $8.21 million cap and even that is certain to rise in the wake of of the new $1.2 billion TV rights deal.
With an average AFL player earning $240,000 a year, the SANFL cap for one team is the equivalent of 1.5 AFL players. That is a huge disparity.

Since 1995 the AFL’s development grant has risen a paltry 25 per cent. In the same period, it’s salary cap has lept an astronomical 300 per cent.

Unlike the AFL, most SANFL footballers also hold down full-time jobs so a diminished local salary cap would see players who’ve missed the AFL bus chasing more lucrative pay cheques as a marquee signing with regional clubs.

Despite all that’s going on at Alberton, the SANFL is in good shape and remains the second-best footy comp in the nation. Last year, all the clubs turned in a profit for the first time in living memory. The clubs run on the smell of an oily rag, with each employing an average six to eight full-time staff.

They’d lose money if they had to rely solely on their football operation, so it speaks volumes of their management structures that they can generate other income streams through corporate backing and fundraising.

Why should we allow anyone to tamper with and dismantle a model that’s working brilliantly?

I urge both Leigh Whicker and John Olsen to fight tooth and nail to resist any decision that would further weaken the SANFL’s financial position and that of it’s nine clubs. Don’t send SA footy down the gurgler. And don’t allow us to become the AFL’s puppets.
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby CENTURION » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:51 pm

good on ya', KG!!
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby 85 WAS A GOOD YEAR » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:04 pm

Gozu wrote:I did and a good article too. How long until Rucci has KG booted from The Advertiser?

Ken Cunningham:

Let me strike some real fear into your hearts and minds. We could be on the brink of losing the SANFL, the competition that we've loved for 140 years, to the AFL juggernaut. The very future of our home grown comp has been put under severe pressure by the turmoil at Port Adelaide.

My biggest worry now is that when the AFL hands over it's fat cheque for $9 million to bail out broke and hapless PA, it's going to come with strings attached. Our financial crisis has opened the door for the AFL to flex it's muscle and a make a move to take control of the game here, something it has wanted to do for many years.

Since 1995 the AFL’s development grant has risen a paltry 25 per cent. In the same period, it’s salary cap has lept an astronomical 300 per cent.

Unlike the AFL, most SANFL footballers also hold down full-time jobs so a diminished local salary cap would see players who’ve missed the AFL bus chasing more lucrative pay cheques as a marquee signing with regional clubs.


I urge both Leigh Whicker and John Olsen to fight tooth and nail to resist any decision that would further weaken the SANFL’s financial position and that of it’s nine clubs. Don’t send SA footy down the gurgler. And don’t allow us to become the AFL’s puppets.

Spot on KG - Well Said!

SANFL guys have a 7 day a week committment to their footy, and maintain full time jobs.
Support staff, stats people & Trainers are all volunteers. Canteens & BBQs are all run by volunteers.
In AFL circles these people are all paid.
Even the paid staff at SANFL clubs work way above and beyond the hours they are actually paid for.
SANFL clubs run efficiently now though people's love for their club.
AFL clubs are run as a business. If they weren't paid, I reckon most of them wouldn't be there.
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby am Bays » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:51 am

85 WAS A GOOD YEAR wrote:Spot on KG - Well Said!

SANFL guys have a 7 day a week committment to their footy, and maintain full time jobs.
Support staff, stats people & Trainers are all volunteers. Canteens & BBQs are all run by volunteers.
In AFL circles these people are all paid.
Even the paid staff at SANFL clubs work way above and beyond the hours they are actually paid for.
SANFL clubs run efficiently now though people's love for their club.
AFL clubs are run as a business. If they weren't paid, I reckon most of them wouldn't be there.


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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby Agile » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:26 am

Incredible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: Rucci will be sharpenning the knives faster than the management at 5AA.
Without a doubt KG has somehow bypassed the editors desk, snuck down the back stars to the print room, slipped the print master a slab of Coopers Sparkling Ale, who baraks for the Bloods, and said "quick,get this to print while everyone upstairs are slapping each other on the back and saying well done."

Seriously though, well done KG. The balanced view in print, what a breath of clean air, and the best bit of opinion in the paper .

Note to KG . Get some sponsors together with your vast experience, go to the management of RPH with a package to present a drivetime program, say three days a week, so we can have a REAL sports program on Adelaide radio. Am sure it would be a success and be a revenue stream for RPH with sponsors who back SA footy.
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby Big Phil » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:37 am

am Bays wrote:
85 WAS A GOOD YEAR wrote:Spot on KG - Well Said!

SANFL guys have a 7 day a week committment to their footy, and maintain full time jobs.
Support staff, stats people & Trainers are all volunteers. Canteens & BBQs are all run by volunteers.
In AFL circles these people are all paid.
Even the paid staff at SANFL clubs work way above and beyond the hours they are actually paid for.
SANFL clubs run efficiently now though people's love for their club.
AFL clubs are run as a business. If they weren't paid, I reckon most of them wouldn't be there.


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And I agree with both KG and 85WAGY's points, well said to both.
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby CENTURION » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:45 am

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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby stan » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:49 am

Agile wrote:Incredible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: Rucci will be sharpenning the knives faster than the management at 5AA.
Without a doubt KG has somehow bypassed the editors desk, snuck down the back stars to the print room, slipped the print master a slab of Coopers Sparkling Ale, who baraks for the Bloods, and said "quick,get this to print while everyone upstairs are slapping each other on the back and saying well done."

Seriously though, well done KG. The balanced view in print, what a breath of clean air, and the best bit of opinion in the paper .

Note to KG . Get some sponsors together with your vast experience, go to the management of RPH with a package to present a drivetime program, say three days a week, so we can have a REAL sports program on Adelaide radio. Am sure it would be a success and be a revenue stream for RPH with sponsors who back SA footy.
Count me as a sponsor if the price is right and it comes together.


This was actually a decent article, and the Advertiser will print these in as well. Its sort of the Rucci v the World that they like to present, very much how they had Cornes and ******* Wilson writing those god damn articles. Anyway it was interesting. I would say that the SANFL should sell the power or put it back in the hands of the AFL to find a buyer.

In the last few days I have been "schooled" in the wealth of the SANFL and there assests so I dont believe what KG is talking about is really that much of a threat. Like I said get rid of the bad assest (power) and run with the good assest (Crows) as the crows are a revenue machine, they have plenty of members and sponser and seem to always be able to turn a profit and this is considering the amount they already pump into the SANFL.

Just my opinion. I do admit I like the SANFL the way it is set up now and thats why I also stated before the port and crows reserves would not work.
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby CENTURION » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:55 am

stan wrote:
Agile wrote:Incredible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: Rucci will be sharpenning the knives faster than the management at 5AA.
Without a doubt KG has somehow bypassed the editors desk, snuck down the back stars to the print room, slipped the print master a slab of Coopers Sparkling Ale, who baraks for the Bloods, and said "quick,get this to print while everyone upstairs are slapping each other on the back and saying well done."

Seriously though, well done KG. The balanced view in print, what a breath of clean air, and the best bit of opinion in the paper .

Note to KG . Get some sponsors together with your vast experience, go to the management of RPH with a package to present a drivetime program, say three days a week, so we can have a REAL sports program on Adelaide radio. Am sure it would be a success and be a revenue stream for RPH with sponsors who back SA footy.
Count me as a sponsor if the price is right and it comes together.


This was actually a decent article, and the Advertiser will print these in as well. Its sort of the Rucci v the World that they like to present, very much how they had Cornes and ******* Wilson writing those god damn articles. Anyway it was interesting. I would say that the SANFL should sell the power or put it back in the hands of the AFL to find a buyer.

In the last few days I have been "schooled" in the wealth of the SANFL and there assests so I dont believe what KG is talking about is really that much of a threat. Like I said get rid of the bad assest (power) and run with the good assest (Crows) as the crows are a revenue machine, they have plenty of members and sponser and seem to always be able to turn a profit and this is considering the amount they already pump into the SANFL.

Just my opinion. I do admit I like the SANFL the way it is set up now and thats why I also stated before the port and crows reserves would not work.

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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby redandblack » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:12 am

Some of my thoughts on this topic.

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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby whufc » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:24 am

Good to see with no amatuer football games on this week the Crows crowd attendance was still ordinary with only 31k there.

While down at the Ponderosa they had a very decent crowd of around 4.5K.

People are slowly coming back to the SANFL when given the choice.
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby FOURTH ESTATE » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:12 pm

For once KG makes some unbiasted SA sense.

The SANFL is going gangbusters at the moment crowd wise at the moment.

The crowd at AAMI might have been bigger if a big gun was coming to town.
How would have the crowd been if the SAAFL and all country leagues were playing yesterday maybe 21000-23000 or less. Lets not kid ourselves the AFL product is very ordinary at times. Only 1 good game in 4 so far this weekend.
The game between Geelong & Hawthorn was a ripper that's what we want to see but no often enough.
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby Booney » Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:46 pm

Interesting that KG thinks the AFL clubs trainers and support staff ( boot studders, property stewards ) are paid positions. I think I know a few blokes looking for back pay!!

Oh, and you think KG writes those articles? Be lucky to spell KG let along write that....
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby Mr Irate » Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:54 pm

Booney wrote:Interesting that KG thinks the AFL clubs trainers and support staff ( boot studders, property stewards ) are paid positions. I think I know a few blokes looking for back pay!!

Oh, and you think KG writes those articles? Be lucky to spell KG let along write that....


But KG has a ghostwriter making much more sense than Wawwen's
"This windfall from the Adelaide Oval decision cannot be turned into a moment when the SANFL sells off the farm to underwrite its lazy league clubs."
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby Brucetiki » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:17 pm

85 WAS A GOOD YEAR wrote:SANFL guys have a 7 day a week committment to their footy, and maintain full time jobs.
Support staff, stats people & Trainers are all volunteers. Canteens & BBQs are all run by volunteers.
In AFL circles these people are all paid.
Even the paid staff at SANFL clubs work way above and beyond the hours they are actually paid for.
SANFL clubs run efficiently now though people's love for their club.
AFL clubs are run as a business. If they weren't paid, I reckon most of them wouldn't be there.


I think Coopers Stadium is an exception to this rule - using the same outsourcing mob AAMI Stadium use, not sure if that's organised by the club or the council given the other sports that are played at the ground in summer.
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby heater31 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:30 pm

Brucetiki wrote:
85 WAS A GOOD YEAR wrote:SANFL guys have a 7 day a week committment to their footy, and maintain full time jobs.
Support staff, stats people & Trainers are all volunteers. Canteens & BBQs are all run by volunteers.
In AFL circles these people are all paid.
Even the paid staff at SANFL clubs work way above and beyond the hours they are actually paid for.
SANFL clubs run efficiently now though people's love for their club.
AFL clubs are run as a business. If they weren't paid, I reckon most of them wouldn't be there.


I think Coopers Stadium is an exception to this rule - using the same outsourcing mob AAMI Stadium use, not sure if that's organised by the club or the council given the other sports that are played at the ground in summer.



Norwood outsource their catering to the Footy Park contractor who also operates at the two Melbourne AFL venues. Also noticed Sturt have employed the same contractor for Unley Oval this year too after going back to volunteers for a couple of years.
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby JK » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:43 pm

Brucetiki wrote:
85 WAS A GOOD YEAR wrote:SANFL guys have a 7 day a week committment to their footy, and maintain full time jobs.
Support staff, stats people & Trainers are all volunteers. Canteens & BBQs are all run by volunteers.
In AFL circles these people are all paid.
Even the paid staff at SANFL clubs work way above and beyond the hours they are actually paid for.
SANFL clubs run efficiently now though people's love for their club.
AFL clubs are run as a business. If they weren't paid, I reckon most of them wouldn't be there.


I think Coopers Stadium is an exception to this rule - using the same outsourcing mob AAMI Stadium use, not sure if that's organised by the club or the council given the other sports that are played at the ground in summer.


Yep the Encore Group ... Service and supply has been so much better since we outsourced I have to say
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Re: HANDS OFF THE SANFL!!!

Postby whufc » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:15 pm

I dont think they will mind me posting these links.

A few players getting involved in spreading the "Hands of Our SANFL" word

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