Centrals vs Sturt Qualifying Review

[sjt]

I've read through the posts on here and there's the usual collection of informed and interesting commentary mixed in with the usual shite from knobs and whining about umpiring decisions and that goes for both sets of supporters.

Seriously, boo-hoo Sharples got two goals, were we lucky with that, yes, bad luck, likewise that decision on the half forward flank that also included a 25m penalty, was that lucky for Central, I think so, but guess what, bad luck, neither decision resulted in the game being won or loss. There's plenty of examples of poor decision making, poor skills and generally poor play by both sides in the preceeding 90 minutes that cost goals and leads and so on. There's no point going Crow-fan-like and blaming umpires for this or that.

For me this was a classic battle between two sides who are evenly matched. If there needed to be anymore proof to my previous posts that Central don't scare or intimidate Sturt and that Sturt can match them, then this is it. Centrals won because they were able to apply an extra five minutes of dedicated, high pressure football and Sturt were not able to absorb it. Calls of choking are ridiculous considering Sturt were up until the very end. It was simply a case of mental strength on one side just out lasted the other side.

For Sturt, its a commendable, though crushing defeat...

For Central, a la 2008, I think this could be the win that see's you over the line in the grannie...

A lot will come down to whether Glenelg play like girls like last season or whether they've taken an exta step to match the Dogs in the big games. Glenelg need to take a leaf out of Sturt's book and see that you can out tough and out work the Dogs at times, our skills and discipline are not up to the level of the Tigers, so if they can combine those attributes, they are a fair chance to do the business in the big game next week and thereafter. So with that, congratulations to Central, a class win against a valiant opponent.

The Dogs players were pleased as punch at the end of the game and I think that in itself is an indication to any Dogs fan the respect the team has for Sturt.

Likewise our dejection at the end shows how much this loss hurt the club and in my opinion, will sentence us to finishing 3rd or 4th this season.

Agree with all the above. Either side could have won it. How good is footy ! Such a fine emotional line. This game was way to stressful

[Lightning McQueen]

serious response, that was one of a hundred decisions made throughout the game. If you want to sit and anyalise every ball up and every contest im sure i can come up with at least 10 decisions that could have gone the way of the Dogs.

End of day mate Sturt didn't have the balls to hold on to the win and choked big time.

Enjoy the Eagles and cut throat final next week, hopefully you find the umpiring more to your liking.

Actually, that was one of fourty four decisons that were made for the day (27-17 in favour of the Dogs) and one of nine decisions made in the last quarter (8-1 Dogs).....

As I have reiterated, I DO NOT blame the umpiring for the outcome. Go back and read my post 'mate'.

I await someone's explanation for Umpire Dey's choice to throw, rather than bounce, the ball at a stoppage for the first time in the match.

I thought the doggies got an excellent run from the umps.

[Grahaml]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised as in all my time reading this forum I cannot recall one occasion where grahaml has put his hand up and said 'gee boys, I reckon we pinched that one'. The reality is, Sturt, for 85 out of the 105 minutes of football played, were the better side without question. Central were on top for 20 of the 105 minutes played which included 15 minutes of the third quarter, where they appeared to be gaining some ascendancy and added two unanswered goals whilst keeping Sturt scoreless, and 5 minutes in time on of the last...no need to describe that period.

Funny how you've suddenly taken issue with my belief the dogs generally play better than the opposition. Even funnier is the fact that when we are beaten comfortably I do concede we weren't the better side. It's more than a little sad that you seem to be in need of my approval whenever Sturt play, even when you lose!

And your comment about Sturt being the better side for 90% of the game is pure comedy gold! The dogs had the better of most of the first quarter, plenty of the third and a good portion of the last. Over the course of the whole game I thought Central were the better side for 60% of it, but my comment was more in the context of the last quarter where I felt we had gained the ascendency and it was really just about getting the lead. Although I do like the fact that you think Sturt were better for pretty much the whole game and yet still couldn't win. What hope have you got of winning next time if you need to dominate the whole match just to get the win?

[CENTURION]

I thought We were lucky, We got some soft frees too. BUT.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................WE WON! That's all that matters, & if We get lucky & get soft frees in 2 more games this season, We will have won another flag. No-one in 10 years will say "They were lucky." Next game please.

[Voice]

Where the hell is the Voice and CSBowes???

Some of us have jobs and pay taxes so people like you can sit on your computer all day and acheive nothing worthwhile for society .

[LBT]

I'm grabbing a beer and some popcorn for this one!

[Dogwatcher]

Yup, just got a cup of char and sat down as I read this. Will be interesting...

[csbowes]

Where the hell is the Voice and CSBowes???

Some of us have jobs and pay taxes so people like you can sit on your computer all day and acheive nothing worthwhile for society b .

I didn't realise I'd be missed... <heart goes a flutter>

... anyway, I'm not ashamed to say it. I was totally and utterly devastated by Sunday's defeat and couldn't be bothered coming on last night, though I must admit, I had a date with the wife to watch the netball, Kimberlee Green, you babe... anyway I digress...

But I'm here now! <insert applause and flag waving>

[SnappyTom]

Where the hell is the Voice and CSBowes???

Some of us have jobs and pay taxes so people like you can sit on your computer all day and acheive nothing worthwhile for society b .

Think of it this way, Mr. Voice:
"goodness prevailed over darkness and evil"...

ST...

[Voice]

What a game people. That was superb to watch even though I was on the losing end of things.
Firstly, the umps had no influence on the game whatsoever. Sure they made a few mistakes but they were by far calling the correct decisions in the majority. That's all we can ask isn't it.
Secondly, I haven't been on the edge of my seat like that at an SANFL game for quite a long time. Fantastic are wrestle and bothg teams can hold their heads up high. In fact, the early game was a cracker too.
Thirdly, people calling the Gowans arrogant, of course they are and so they should be. They have the record to back it up. How arrogant were Port Magpies back in the day and how many flags did they win because of that self belief that comes from the arrogance. If only we had a couple of arrogant bastards we may have pinched a couple flags away from Centrals in the last decade.
The league still carries the interest it does partly due to the Doggie twins giving it some flair and also some ammunition for us opposition that need to hate somebody.
As someone said earlier in the thread, I too hope they play til they're 40.

[Dogwatcher]

Great post Voice.
Some times it's good to open up both eyes.

I liked the way your boys reacted to the Gowans boys yesterday, showed them they couldn't bluff them.

[whufc]

What a game people. That was superb to watch even though I was on the losing end of things.
Firstly, the umps had no influence on the game whatsoever. Sure they made a few mistakes but they were by far calling the correct decisions in the majority. That's all we can ask isn't it.
Secondly, I haven't been on the edge of my seat like that at an SANFL game for quite a long time. Fantastic are wrestle and bothg teams can hold their heads up high. In fact, the early game was a cracker too.
Thirdly, people calling the Gowans arrogant, of course they are and so they should be. They have the record to back it up. How arrogant were Port Magpies back in the day and how many flags did they win because of that self belief that comes from the arrogance. If only we had a couple of arrogant bastards we may have pinched a couple flags away from Centrals in the last decade.
The league still carries the interest it does partly due to the Doggie twins giving it some flair and also some ammunition for us opposition that need to hate somebody.
As someone said earlier in the thread, I too hope they play til they're 40.

well said,

A serious question, how to Sturt fans think Herring will go without Chambers in the side, i don't get to see him play very often but the bloke seems to be a very talented footballer, BUT he seemed to struggle a little and looked a tad lost without Chambers in behind him, he will now more than likely have the oppositions best tall defender on him, can he handle that, i think he is now the key Sturt with Chambers out injured.

[twosheds]

I've read through the posts on here and there's the usual collection of informed and interesting commentary mixed in with the usual shite from knobs and whining about umpiring decisions and that goes for both sets of supporters.

Seriously, boo-hoo Sharples got two goals, were we lucky with that, yes, bad luck, likewise that decision on the half forward flank that also included a 25m penalty, was that lucky for Central, I think so, but guess what, bad luck, neither decision resulted in the game being won or loss. There's plenty of examples of poor decision making, poor skills and generally poor play by both sides in the preceeding 90 minutes that cost goals and leads and so on. There's no point going Crow-fan-like and blaming umpires for this or that.

For me this was a classic battle between two sides who are evenly matched. If there needed to be anymore proof to my previous posts that Central don't scare or intimidate Sturt and that Sturt can match them, then this is it. Centrals won because they were able to apply an extra five minutes of dedicated, high pressure football and Sturt were not able to absorb it. Calls of choking are ridiculous considering Sturt were up until the very end. It was simply a case of mental strength on one side just out lasted the other side.

For Sturt, its a commendable, though crushing defeat...

For Central, a la 2008, I think this could be the win that see's you over the line in the grannie...

A lot will come down to whether Glenelg play like girls like last season or whether they've taken an exta step to match the Dogs in the big games. Glenelg need to take a leaf out of Sturt's book and see that you can out tough and out work the Dogs at times, our skills and discipline are not up to the level of the Tigers, so if they can combine those attributes, they are a fair chance to do the business in the big game next week and thereafter. So with that, congratulations to Central, a class win against a valiant opponent.

The Dogs players were pleased as punch at the end of the game and I think that in itself is an indication to any Dogs fan the respect the team has for Sturt.

Likewise our dejection at the end shows how much this loss hurt the club and in my opinion, will sentence us to finishing 3rd or 4th this season.

Yep, pretty well sums it up,a great game to be at.

[Voice]

well said,

A serious question, how to Sturt fans think Herring will go without Chambers in the side, i don't get to see him play very often but the bloke seems to be a very talented footballer, BUT he seemed to struggle a little and looked a tad lost without Chambers in behind him, he will now more than likely have the oppositions best tall defender on him, can he handle that, i think he is now the key Sturt with Chambers out injured.

You're exactly right, he would have to be our key if we are to resurrect our season. I reckon he pulls the trigger a bit early when marks at about 40 out. He usually doesn't go for goal from there, he plays on and tries to find someone closer. He needs to be having shots from that range, he's got a booming leg and is generally pretty accurate.
He'll be the main man once Chambo gives it away so he would want to start gaining confidence in his abilities asap and take some shots that sail straight over Chambo's head.
I thought Johncock was very good yesterday playing up the ground a bit.
BTW, someone who I forgot to mention earlier, Buckets is an absolute star for you guys. I must admit that I am one of many who give it to him because he doesn't fit your standard footballers frame but he would have to be Centrals most important player.

[csbowes]

A serious question, how to Sturt fans think Herring will go without Chambers in the side, i don't get to see him play very often but the bloke seems to be a very talented footballer, BUT he seemed to struggle a little and looked a tad lost without Chambers in behind him, he will now more than likely have the oppositions best tall defender on him, can he handle that, i think he is now the key Sturt with Chambers out injured.

Personally I don't think Herring can stand that tall so to speak. I agree he's a talented player, but he does suffer from the yips at time and I don't think will grab the game by the scruff of the neck like Chambers would. I don't mean that in the sense of kickign 7-8 goals, I mean not backing away from having to take the big marks and kick the big goals the team needs.

My concern going into that game was not so much would the team lift and compete, but whether we'd have a player who could take the vital mark up forward and score that winning goal. As it turns out, the game was more scrappy and error riddled than I had expected, which helped us as Chambers was no longer a factor, it just wasn't free flowing.

This week against the Eagles could be an issue. We've thumped them twice, but that means nothing, our game plan will be different, so will there's, we could have real issues kicking a winning score.

I for one, am nervous about a straight sets exit...

... ideally we'll win and we'll face the Dogs in the prelim, as like last year, I'd like a second crack at them!

[dedja]

For a moment there I thought it was going to be all out war in this thread, now everyone's a best mate.

WTF is going on???

[Hazydog]

Can anyone " in the know" confirm that Hayesey copped his injury at training on Saturday afternoon? Given that L Westhoff wasn't named in either side, and the reserves had already played earlier, this may mean that Leigh came into the side at the last minute and played with some sort of injury that originally would have kept him out of both games.

[Voice]

For a moment there I thought it was going to be all out war in this thread, now everyone's a best mate.

WTF is going on???

We're planning our attack on Glenelg together. Lookout dedja

[csbowes]

I thought Johncock was very good yesterday playing up the ground a bit.
BTW, someone who I forgot to mention earlier, Buckets is an absolute star for you guys. I must admit that I am one of many who give it to him because he doesn't fit your standard footballers frame but he would have to be Centrals most important player.

Johncock... he was GREAT yesterday, really put in some hard work. Real pleased...

Buckets... geez, he was once again brilliant, I even thought we kept him quiet at times, but overall, even though hit outs say otherwise, I thought the man was completely dominating as a figure in the ruck, once more I have no shame in saying it, Buckets is welcome to come to Unley!

[Voice]

BTW, I met whufc a couple of weeks ago at Lizbeff. Good bloke! Also played footy with DW years ago so that could explain the friendliness.