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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby dedja » Sun May 13, 2012 3:45 pm

Go for the one you heard when you were sober ...
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby whufc » Sun May 13, 2012 4:49 pm

dedja wrote:Go for the one you heard when you were sober ...


That was probably the worse one of the lot!
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby Big Phil » Sun May 13, 2012 4:53 pm

whufc wrote:
dedja wrote:Go for the one you heard when you were sober ...


That was probably the worse one of the lot!


There's no bay, I mean way, that Chad would leave the Dogs, surely?
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby Big Phil » Tue May 22, 2012 2:37 pm

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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby sjt » Tue May 22, 2012 2:50 pm

Big Phil wrote:No surprises if this eventuates...

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/salo ... 6363361366


"Bamford, whose League side was outgunned around the stoppages by Glenelg, said his club would consider negotiating Salopek a transfer"

What's there to negotiate if "one club" want him don't they just take him? I don't recall Centrals getting any compensation for Surjan and Lockwood when they were "negotiated" to Port (before they were one club).
Port would get a player to add to their depth that doesn't add to their salary cap.
When this happens it should be in exchange for a first round internal draft pick.
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby Slots It Through » Tue May 22, 2012 3:43 pm

sjt wrote:
Big Phil wrote:No surprises if this eventuates...

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/salo ... 6363361366


"Bamford, whose League side was outgunned around the stoppages by Glenelg, said his club would consider negotiating Salopek a transfer"

What's there to negotiate if "one club" want him don't they just take him? I don't recall Centrals getting any compensation for Surjan and Lockwood when they were "negotiated" to Port (before they were one club).
Port would get a player to add to their depth that doesn't add to their salary cap.
When this happens it should be in exchange for a first round internal draft pick.


There is a cost involved, and its calculated by the SANFL. After a certain period of time the player actually gets to chose the club he wants to go to, so he would have to want to come to the Magpies.
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby Big Phil » Tue May 22, 2012 3:45 pm

Slots It Through wrote:There is a cost involved, and its calculated by the SANFL. After a certain period of time the player actually gets to chose the club he wants to go to, so he would have to want to come to the Magpies.


You would think Port would be his 1st choice, being based already at Alberton with the Power, as well as being a club he may feel he'll get more opportunities through the midfield.
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby Slots It Through » Tue May 22, 2012 4:56 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Slots It Through wrote:There is a cost involved, and its calculated by the SANFL. After a certain period of time the player actually gets to chose the club he wants to go to, so he would have to want to come to the Magpies.


You would think Port would be his 1st choice, being based already at Alberton with the Power, as well as being a club he may feel he'll get more opportunities through the midfield.


The cost would really need to be considered by which ever club was interested. There would only be 13 or 14 SANFL games left, and i am not sure if he is under contract with the Power for next season (i dont think he is), so i am sure the club wouldnt want to outlay a massive amount, if he may not be with the Power next year?
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby Big Phil » Tue May 22, 2012 5:03 pm

Slots It Through wrote:
Big Phil wrote:
Slots It Through wrote:There is a cost involved, and its calculated by the SANFL. After a certain period of time the player actually gets to chose the club he wants to go to, so he would have to want to come to the Magpies.


You would think Port would be his 1st choice, being based already at Alberton with the Power, as well as being a club he may feel he'll get more opportunities through the midfield.


The cost would really need to be considered by which ever club was interested. There would only be 13 or 14 SANFL games left, and i am not sure if he is under contract with the Power for next season (i dont think he is), so i am sure the club wouldnt want to outlay a massive amount, if he may not be with the Power next year?


Yeah sure, fair point.
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby sjt » Tue May 22, 2012 5:06 pm

Slots It Through wrote:
Big Phil wrote:
Slots It Through wrote:There is a cost involved, and its calculated by the SANFL. After a certain period of time the player actually gets to chose the club he wants to go to, so he would have to want to come to the Magpies.


You would think Port would be his 1st choice, being based already at Alberton with the Power, as well as being a club he may feel he'll get more opportunities through the midfield.


The cost would really need to be considered by which ever club was interested. There would only be 13 or 14 SANFL games left, and i am not sure if he is under contract with the Power for next season (i dont think he is), so i am sure the club wouldnt want to outlay a massive amount, if he may not be with the Power next year?


Slots it Through, I'd be interested to see if anyone has any information on what these "costs" might be. Obviously no club would want to outlay a "massive" amount but I'm sure they'd be prepared to outlay a "miniscule" amount, regardless of if he's at the Power next year.
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby on the rails » Tue May 22, 2012 5:11 pm

Who would really know what the Magpies would have to pay or actually paid if it come off? After all the "One Club" situation re joint financials would easily allow the PAFC to hide that cost and not attribute it to the Magpies and their operational budget.
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby tigerpie » Tue May 22, 2012 5:13 pm

So the magpies ask the Power if they are going to delist him next year before they pay the cash. Would they be honest with the other 7 clubs if they were interested in paying for him?
This one club crap is not a level playing field. Why does he get to choose which club he wants?
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby JK » Tue May 22, 2012 5:20 pm

on the rails wrote:Who would really know what the Magpies would have to pay or actually paid if it come off? After all the "One Club" situation re joint financials would easily allow the PAFC to hide that cost and not attribute it to the Magpies and their operational budget.


So how much confidence would you have in the Magpies being properly assessed in terms of Salary Cap, now and into the future?
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby Slots It Through » Tue May 22, 2012 5:25 pm

sjt wrote:
Slots It Through wrote:
Big Phil wrote:
Slots It Through wrote:There is a cost involved, and its calculated by the SANFL. After a certain period of time the player actually gets to chose the club he wants to go to, so he would have to want to come to the Magpies.


You would think Port would be his 1st choice, being based already at Alberton with the Power, as well as being a club he may feel he'll get more opportunities through the midfield.


The cost would really need to be considered by which ever club was interested. There would only be 13 or 14 SANFL games left, and i am not sure if he is under contract with the Power for next season (i dont think he is), so i am sure the club wouldnt want to outlay a massive amount, if he may not be with the Power next year?


Slots it Through, I'd be interested to see if anyone has any information on what these "costs" might be. Obviously no club would want to outlay a "massive" amount but I'm sure they'd be prepared to outlay a "miniscule" amount, regardless of if he's at the Power next year.


I dont think anyone will find out what the actual cost of the transfer would be, but its an SANFL transfer, so it would be calculated the same way Ben Kanes transfer to Sturt was, games played, years of service, best and fairest finishes etc.
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby Slots It Through » Tue May 22, 2012 5:27 pm

JK wrote:
on the rails wrote:Who would really know what the Magpies would have to pay or actually paid if it come off? After all the "One Club" situation re joint financials would easily allow the PAFC to hide that cost and not attribute it to the Magpies and their operational budget.


So how much confidence would you have in the Magpies being properly assessed in terms of Salary Cap, now and into the future?


Forgive the ignorance, but i didnt think AFL players playing SANFL were paid by the SANFL club?
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby JK » Tue May 22, 2012 5:41 pm

Slots It Through wrote:
JK wrote:
on the rails wrote:Who would really know what the Magpies would have to pay or actually paid if it come off? After all the "One Club" situation re joint financials would easily allow the PAFC to hide that cost and not attribute it to the Magpies and their operational budget.


So how much confidence would you have in the Magpies being properly assessed in terms of Salary Cap, now and into the future?


Forgive the ignorance, but i didnt think AFL players playing SANFL were paid by the SANFL club?


Sorry mate, I was referring to OTR's comments about the joint financials and assertion that an environment exists for easier exploitation. No reference to the Salopek situation was intended.
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby Jim05 » Tue May 22, 2012 7:56 pm

Was mentioned on 5aa tonight that Glenelg were happy to let Salopek go to the Magpies until they learnt they could make some money from it, now they are claiming he is a required player and want compensation.
Was also mentioned that Mitch Banner is looking to move SANFL clubs again after being left out of the Magpies League squad, I thought he was injured this week not dropped
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby am Bays » Tue May 22, 2012 8:00 pm

Jim05 wrote:Was mentioned on 5aa tonight that Glenelg were happy to let Salopek go to the Magpies until they learnt they could make some money from it, now they are claiming he is a required player and want compensation.
Was also mentioned that Mitch Banner is looking to move SANFL clubs again after being left out of the Magpies League squad, I thought he was injured this week not dropped


Given we've paid for (Harwood) and received money (Willetts) in the past for the transfer of AFL listed players I think we were well aware of the process so I reckon that one is a furphy....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby Big Phil » Tue May 22, 2012 8:02 pm

Jim05 wrote:Was mentioned on 5aa tonight that Glenelg were happy to let Salopek go to the Magpies until they learnt they could make some money from it, now they are claiming he is a required player and want compensation.
I heard that and was also interested to hear someone message in and say there was a link to Salopek transferring to Central District? I'm not sure there would be room in the Dog's midfield for Sal at the moment but, as mentioned earlier, think he would slot into the Magpies midfield, if they really are interested in him.


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Jim05 wrote:Was also mentioned that Mitch Banner is looking to move SANFL clubs again after being left out of the Magpies League squad, I thought he was injured this week not dropped
I also heard that read out and actually rang AA to tell them that Mitch doesn't want to change clubs again. He wasn't dropped at all Jim, you are right. He has re-injured the knee he has had trouble with and was actually at Glenelg on Friday night watching the Maggies take on the Bays, on crutches.
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Re: Retirements and Player Movements

Postby whufc » Wed May 23, 2012 11:39 am

wasnt there a rule about if an AFL listed player wanted to leave his SANFL club than the bottom placed side had first choice on him.
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