AFL Reserves Discussion...

[lambchops]

I'm thinking beers in the check side tavern after work on Tuesday before greeting the presidents entering the Sanfl meeting. I'll bring the protest signs! !

[JK]

I'm thinking beers in the check side tavern after work on Tuesday before greeting the presidents entering the Sanfl meeting. I'll bring the protest signs! !

Game of Poker too .. Well set!!

[lambchops]

Yeah make that Thursday night. Got my dates wrong. Thursday's better anyhow, nearly the weekend. Beers and protest, what more do you want? Is our comp and tradition worth making a stand for? shit yeah it is! Think about it.

[SANFLnut]

In the absence of being able to offer any benefit to the SANFL expect the Crows to push the line that it would be worse for SANFL if they went to VFL, NEAFL, Ammos etc. Fear is a powerful motivator and if they can scare local clubs with phrases like lost revenue stream, reduced media interest, crowd drop off etc. then expect them to use their ample resources to fund these types of reports and treat them like they are gospel.

[CENTURION]

In the absence of being able to offer any benefit to the SANFL expect the Crows to push the line that it would be worse for SANFL if they went to VFL, NEAFL, Ammos etc. Fear is a powerful motivator and if they can scare local clubs with phrases like lost revenue stream, reduced media interest, crowd drop off etc. then expect them to use their ample resources to fund these types of reports and treat them like they are gospel.

Do you think that the boards of the SANFL clubs will make a decision because they are SCARED?? Please......

[JK]

In the absence of being able to offer any benefit to the SANFL expect the Crows to push the line that it would be worse for SANFL if they went to VFL, NEAFL, Ammos etc. Fear is a powerful motivator and if they can scare local clubs with phrases like lost revenue stream, reduced media interest, crowd drop off etc. then expect them to use their ample resources to fund these types of reports and treat them like they are gospel.

Do you think that the boards of the SANFL clubs will make a decision because they are SCARED?? Please......

I wouldnt rule it out, plenty of merit in SANFLnut's post (imo) unfortunately

[on the rails]

If the PAFC don't get their way in terms of a Reserves side and keeping all the rest of the Magpies structure as is I think they will then push to keep the status quo HOWEVER as shown by actions this year, they will try damn hard to move their AFL listed players by "stealth" to Alberton. It will be interesting how the SANFL Management and indeed the clubs collectively respond if this did happen.

Personally both AFL clubs have whinged about having Reserves to develop players and have drawn the line in the sand so the SANFL should call their bluff and take what ever the SANFL allow or the clubs vote and tell them to go elsewhere and that includes disolving the Magpies IMO.

I also find it ironic that the PAFC AFL are winning well against very good opponents so how does that stack up re the argument reserves sides will help their development and competitive edge to put them in line with other AFL Clubs who field reserves? Not having a bona fide reserves side hasn't stopped the likes of Wines and Neade from stepping up to AFL level and neither of them has played a SANFL game?

[Mic]

If the PAFC don't get their way in terms of a Reserves side and keeping all the rest of the Magpies structure as is I think they will then push to keep the status quo HOWEVER as shown by actions this year, they will try damn hard to move their AFL listed players by "stealth" to Alberton. It will be interesting how the SANFL Management and indeed the clubs collectively respond if this did happen.

Personally both AFL clubs have whinged about having Reserves to develop players and have drawn the line in the sand so the SANFL should call their bluff and take what ever the SANFL allow or the clubs vote and tell them to go elsewhere and that includes disolving the Magpies IMO.

I also find it ironic that the PAFC AFL are winning well against very good opponents so how does that stack up re the argument reserves sides will help their development and competitive edge to put them in line with other AFL Clubs who field reserves? Not having a bona fide reserves side hasn't stopped the likes of Wines and Neade from stepping up to AFL level and neither of them has played a SANFL game?

Port Power would be on top of the ladder if they had a reserves team. The Crows would be 2nd.

[Agile]

Yeah make that Thursday night. Got my dates wrong. Thursday's better anyhow, nearly the weekend. Beers and protest, what more do you want? Is our comp and tradition worth making a stand for? shit yeah it is! Think about it.

Got my vote. What time? 3.30pm.?

[The Sleeping Giant]

I also find it ironic that the PAFC AFL are winning well against very good opponents so how does that stack up re the argument reserves sides will help their development and competitive edge to put them in line with other AFL Clubs who field reserves? Not having a bona fide reserves side hasn't stopped the likes of Wines and Neade from stepping up to AFL level and neither of them has played a SANFL game?

Both clubs have won premierships without bona fide reserves teams, and despite Port's bad couple of years, haven't exactly been cellar dwellers.

[Harry the Horse]

In the absence of being able to offer any benefit to the SANFL expect the Crows to push the line that it would be worse for SANFL if they went to VFL, NEAFL, Ammos etc. Fear is a powerful motivator and if they can scare local clubs with phrases like lost revenue stream, reduced media interest, crowd drop off etc. then expect them to use their ample resources to fund these types of reports and treat them like they are gospel.

Do you think that the boards of the SANFL clubs will make a decision because they are SCARED?? Please......

I think they could vote in favour of the Crows and Power because they are:

Scared - of lost support, revenue, media interest etc
Lazy - don't want to roll up their sleeves and work hard to make their business models successful
Bullied - by the two AFL sides and the SANFL Commission
Soulless and Passionless - how many SANFL sides are really proud of their history and want to protect their patch like Norwood? Hopefully at least two more.

[RB]

I think they could vote in favour of the Crows and Power because they are:

Scared - of lost support, revenue, media interest etc
Lazy - don't want to roll up their sleeves and work hard to make their business models successful
Bullied - by the two AFL sides and the SANFL Commission
Soulless and Passionless - how many SANFL sides are really proud of their history and want to protect their patch like Norwood? Hopefully at least two more.

They tend to be 'yes men' as well, so there is always pressure on them to 'do what all the other boys are doing'. So full credit to Joe Tripodi and Norwood, and yes, hopefully at least two other sides stand up to the AFL clubs.

[SANFLnut]

Surprised also that Sanderson hasn't worn more flack on this issue so far. The reserves debate is being driven by the Crows because they are backing his suggestion. His selection process, fitness programme and gameplan are showing more and more cracks the longer they have his stamp on them. If they want improvement of their players then they need to tell Sando to get his own house in order rather than tamper with our competition.

[CedeNullis]

Congrats to the supporters who held up those 'NO AFL IN THE SANFL' signs at the Ponderosa yesterday. I think they were Norwood supporters, but couldn't tell for sure as I was on the Grandstand wing.

[CENTURION]

they were created by a North supporter, Lambchops. Thankyou to him!

[Reddeer]

Surprised also that Sanderson hasn't worn more flack on this issue so far. The reserves debate is being driven by the Crows because they are backing his suggestion. His selection process, fitness programme and gameplan are showing more and more cracks the longer they have his stamp on them. If they want improvement of their players then they need to tell Sando to get his own house in order rather than tamper with our competition.

Agree, Get on his back. He is the one who is pushing it. He is not the Messiah either

[Groucho]

Surprised also that Sanderson hasn't worn more flack on this issue so far. The reserves debate is being driven by the Crows because they are backing his suggestion. His selection process, fitness programme and gameplan are showing more and more cracks the longer they have his stamp on them. If they want improvement of their players then they need to tell Sando to get his own house in order rather than tamper with our competition.

Agree, Get on his back. He is the one who is pushing it. He is not the Messiah either

No, he's just a very naughty boy.

[Dogwatcher]

Been Real and Kickinit love the Magpies so much, you never actually see them comment in an SANFL game thread.

bit hard when I hardly get the chance to watch the game. If you also notice I hardly comment in the AFL game thread.

Not hard at all. You can post in pre or after game threads about all sorts of things, team selection, injuries, reports, good form of players, bad form of players. You don't have to have seen a game to have an opinion on how things are going with your beloved Magpies.

You're clearly just interested in the AFL prospect of the proposal and don't really care about the Magpies that much.

[am Bays]

It's all going well in the West.....

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/17831725/peel-boss-questions-character-of-players/

[Ecky]

It's all going well in the West.....

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/17831725/peel-boss-questions-character-of-players/

That just proves the volatile nature of reserves teams and why no footballer (who has the option of going elsewhere for similar money) would want to be a top-up player. There will be some weeks where you will be a star player in a team getting thrashed if the AFL team has lots of injuries, but then there will be other weeks when you will be dropped to the reserves (or another competition?) just because the AFL club wants to play 3 other players in your position for their "development". And then when you leave, your former president questions your character because you don't happen to like this arrangement.