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Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:22 pmby Booney
RB wrote:Booney wrote:Pseudo wrote:goddy11 wrote:PORT Adelaide chief executive Keith Thomas admits the future of the club's long-standing state league outfit could be in jeopardy as the sport grapples with the financial crisis caused by the coronavirus pandemic.
Finally, some good news to come out of this pandemic.
(edit) long standing? 6 years? Bwaaaahahahahaaaa.....
If you're rejoicing in any of the news relating to this you're a peasant. Whether it be Port, Centrals, West, South or the Bays. Pathetic.
Haha, ouch, being called a peasant by a Port supporter.
Not quite sure what's so offensive though, I can't see anyone losing their job if the Reserves go apart from perhaps Lokan.
You might be surprised to know Port fans quite like the SANFL and want to see our side compete in it, in any form. Old habits die hard.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:24 pmby amber_fluid
am Bays wrote:smac wrote:Perhaps the timing, just before $750 handout round 1, is strategic?
Welcome back legend
Now we just need Dogger back
I was reading through some old sanfl threads yesterday.
Overloaded and Dogger_2 provides some value at times.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:32 pmby Booney
smac wrote:Perhaps the timing, just before $750 handout round 1, is strategic?
Had to rub my eyes. It can't be. But, it is.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:47 pmby JK
Welcome back Symac
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:11 pmby gazzamagoo
whufc wrote:Booney wrote:gazzamagoo wrote:nwdfanparade wrote:I have just donated $100 to my club (that's on top of membership and new scarf, cap & t-shirt). I urge every one to make a donation to help their club through this very trying times. If 3,000 supporters/members donate $20 each to their club, that's $60,000 that's helping your club.
Think about how much money you have spare not going to games this year, not going to the pub for meals and drinks. Donate the money you're saving staying home to your club. Every little bit helps. Certainly Membership and merchandise helps but fork out a little bit more in a donation.
that's easy for the "haves" to say, but Centrals doesn't have anywhere near 3,000 members & we are in a predominantly lower socio-economic area,
there isn't any disposable income at the best of times, people won't be handing over money to a sporting club for no real reason at all.
I'm not buying that, how many people would have dropped $20 in the pokies over the last 12 months in the area? How many would have dropped $20 in Grand Central itself?
You have to keep in mind that a high percentage of regular pokie players probably have no interest in Centrals the football club and only go there because of the facility itself.
Those people dropping $20 in the pokies most likely have no reall concern for Centrals long term and will just go and drop $20 at the elizabeth tavern, Red Lion, Midway.
this is 100% correct
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:13 pmby gazzamagoo
Booney wrote:whufc wrote:Booney wrote:
I'm not buying that, how many people would have dropped $20 in the pokies over the last 12 months in the area? How many would have dropped $20 in Grand Central itself?
You have to keep in mind that a high percentage of regular pokie players probably have no interest in Centrals the football club and only go there because of the facility itself.
Those people dropping $20 in the pokies most likely have no reall concern for Centrals long term and will just go and drop $20 at the elizabeth tavern, Red Lion, Midway.
My point was saying "there's no disposable income" in the area isn't true. Like many lower socio economic areas go into a KFC/Macca's/HJ's and tell me people aren't throwing splash money around.
ok, now go and ask them to cough up $140 for a season ticket to a sports club that isn't playing sports.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:11 pmby Booney
gazzamagoo wrote:Booney wrote:whufc wrote:Booney wrote:
I'm not buying that, how many people would have dropped $20 in the pokies over the last 12 months in the area? How many would have dropped $20 in Grand Central itself?
You have to keep in mind that a high percentage of regular pokie players probably have no interest in Centrals the football club and only go there because of the facility itself.
Those people dropping $20 in the pokies most likely have no reall concern for Centrals long term and will just go and drop $20 at the elizabeth tavern, Red Lion, Midway.
My point was saying "there's no disposable income" in the area isn't true. Like many lower socio economic areas go into a KFC/Macca's/HJ's and tell me people aren't throwing splash money around.
ok, now go and ask them to cough up $140 for a season ticket to a sports club that isn't playing sports.
That's not what the club is asking for though, $20 donations will all add up.
Mine included.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:58 pmby Brett
Clubs need a big backer as well as donations. If they don't have that and in trouble, they won't survive. I must say I'm not surprised by Centrals slide. That decade has actually come back to bite them IMO. Too many jumped on that didnt really follow footy I think and then jumped off.It would be great if they came back to the fold to help Centrals out.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:20 pmby Aerie
So, what of the SANFL? It's been teetering between the AFL and Community Leagues since the Crows came in. 2014 saw Port Power and Crows Reserves teams implemented, meaning the SANFL sides had to keep up to stay competitive, which they've done so far. Fortunately no AFL Reserves Premiers.
It looks as though the AFL will be cost-saving, already assistant coaches have been cut. It looks like list sizes will decrease and possibly some clubs won't survive.
What does that mean for the SANFL? More ex-AFL listed players available? No AFL Reserves sides?
Does the SANFL go back to the system it had previously for AFL players not getting a league game? Does the AFL take over?
Do all SANFL clubs survive? Can we bring West Torrens back?
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:29 pmby Hazydog
My take is that Centrals have struggled with generating surplus income over the last few years, which has seen significant tightening of the belt in expenditure in order to not create annual financial losses. They have basically trod water on that scope. On the plus side however, the responsible edict of the SANFL to only use the Footy Park funds for debt reduction, has seen the bank loan reduced greatly. Clearly at present they are in desperate cash flow trouble- as all clubs would be to differing extents. Maybe the rattling of the tins seems justified to them given they have never needed to do it before, and also given they gave supporters Arun for their money that no club ever has or probably never will again.
I think $250K is a tad ambitious.. (ok very ambitious) but maybe it’s more to generate the sense of emergency and is more of an ambit claim..
Whatever it is- I’ve renewed the membership and donated a bit more what I would normally pay for a season ticket. It’s the least I can do after years of pain followed by pleasure..
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:33 pmby LMA
Aerie wrote:So, what of the SANFL? It's been teetering between the AFL and Community Leagues since the Crows came in. 2014 saw Port Power and Crows Reserves teams implemented, meaning the SANFL sides had to keep up to stay competitive, which they've done so far. Fortunately no AFL Reserves Premiers.
It looks as though the AFL will be cost-saving, already assistant coaches have been cut. It looks like list sizes will decrease and possibly some clubs won't survive.
What does that mean for the SANFL? More ex-AFL listed players available? No AFL Reserves sides?
Does the SANFL go back to the system it had previously for AFL players not getting a league game? Does the AFL take over?
Do all SANFL clubs survive? Can we bring West Torrens back?
IMO
If the AFL trim lists to 35, the figure being thrown around, then it looks inevitable that the SANFL reverts back to 2013 format where AFL listed players are distributed evenly. I think all SANFL clubs will survive, most councils will offer rate relief and clubs will have low overheads if the lights aren't on and there's no staff or players to pay.
West Torrens I think not, too much water has gone under that bridge, the Amateurs have Thebby now anyway. If Port can survive with 2 teams in both comps, looking unlikely at this stage, then that would be a better option as the supporter base and infrastructure are already there.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:12 amby Booney
Rumors the Magpies will not exist next year are gaining momentum. Looks increasingly likely there won't be a side from the PAFC in the SANFL.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:23 amby UK Fan
Booney wrote:Rumors the Magpies will not exist next year are gaining momentum. Looks increasingly likely there won't be a side from the PAFC in the SANFL.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:52 amby Dutchy
Them and the Crows signed a 15 year agreement with the SANFL, they just can't walk away.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:13 amby Booney
Grantley Fielke fronting the West Adelaide FC fund raising campaign.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:22 amby DOC
Dutchy wrote:Them and the Crows signed a 15 year agreement with the SANFL, they just can't walk away.
I look forward to Glenelg, North, West, Norwood, Sturt and the Eagles banding together to fight this.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:52 amby am Bays
DOC wrote:Dutchy wrote:Them and the Crows signed a 15 year agreement with the SANFL, they just can't walk away.
I look forward to Glenelg, North, West, Norwood, Sturt and the Eagles banding together to fight this.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:47 amby nwdfanparade
Dutchy wrote:Them and the Crows signed a 15 year agreement with the SANFL, they just can't walk away.
I believe there is a clause that the AFL reserves teams can give a year's notice to quit the SANFL.
Also I believe that any contract can be deemed null and void by mutual consent of the parties involved.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:09 pmby topshelf
Random thoughts about the possible changes that could come up. Maybe 16 on the field instead of 18, back to three or two on the interchange bench. Smaller AFL squads is probably a given with the AFL reserves sides fold, SANFL reserves sides get scrapped, lower salary cap, womens leagues to take a step back. A lot still depends how long it takes to get this under control obviously. Still hopeful we will start to see football by late June. I wonder what would happen if we had it all under control in this state and had no new cases for weeks but other states are still weeks or even a month or two behind where we are, with the borders closed would we be able to go ahead and start the SANFL season while the AFL is not open for business. I'd be surprised if the AFL let us.
Re: SANFL Clubs
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Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:19 pmby Doddy
Pretty sure we'd see first team Crows and Power players in their SANFL sides if that happened, to get a form headstart over their lagging AFL rivals.
And if it wasn't allowed by the rules, they'd be summarily waived.