Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby whufc » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:00 am

mal wrote:The AFL is giving an estimated 9 million to prop up Port power in the next few years
What are Adelaide Crows going to get ?


Nothing, like when they hand out money to Kangaroos, Bulldogs etc that doesnt mean they give money to Collingwood and Carlton.
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby mal » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:10 am

Im confused
The AFL is going to prop up PP to the tune of 9 million
Should the other clubs get the same monetary infusion ?

Some have in the past
But whaddabout the financial clubs
To me itsa kick in the guts to the financially successful AFL clubs
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby blueandwhite » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:20 am

Like many of the posters on this site , I have only a passing interest in the welfare of our AFL clubs. However the revenue they generate ,collected by the SANFL, and distributed to our clubs is critical to the survival of the league.For some clubs it is the difference between solvency and extinction. If that revenue stream is diminished in anyway there would be a great deal of concern at a lot of SANFL clubs.
I have a couple of issues that I am really worried about.
The sanfl didnt have the coin to help Port out again. It has gone into debt to help Port out over the last few years and its resources have dried up.Enter the AFL,the white knight, who keen to protect its TV rights contract needs a game out of Adelaide every week, and doesnt want Port to fall over.
Mr AFL(Demetrio) has always shown disdain for the SANFL in the past and has always attempted to reduce it to a suburban league by leaning on the SANFL to reduce salary caps and other measures as well with the threat of reduced funding. The fact that he has now bypassed the sanfl to prop up Port Adelaide with a great deal of cash will see Port people dancing in the streets-as demonstrated by Mr Duncanson who stated "..it is a great day for Port Adelaide...". Well it may be a great day for Port Adelaide but if you think Demetriou has handed Port 9mill and wont want a bang for his buck you are sadly mistaken- he will use the leverage from this to bone the SANFL and our clubs- probably take the Port license from the SANFL and sell it to some corporate high flyer. This will mean the license will be out of the SANFL's hands and therefore revenue from the Port license to the sanfl clubs will vanish.
I'm very worried about the future of our league.
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Barto » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:25 am

Booney wrote:Yes, I'm certain that was the motives of the people at the time. You truly believe that, do you?


No less silly than the Port loonies who think the SANFL is out to destroy them out of some kind of twisted jealousy.
It's all the SANFL's fault.
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Barto » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:27 am

blueandwhite wrote: probably take the Port license from the SANFL and sell it to some corporate high flyer


They cant just "take" it. Where does this idea come from?
It's all the SANFL's fault.
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby blueandwhite » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:32 am

Barto wrote:
blueandwhite wrote: probably take the Port license from the SANFL and sell it to some corporate high flyer


They cant just "take" it. Where does this idea come from?


They can ; the sanfl currently have the lease on the 2 afl licenses. That lease on the Crows and Ports licenses expires this year .
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:33 am

mal wrote:Im confused
The AFL is going to prop up PP to the tune of 9 million
Should the other clubs get the same monetary infusion ?

Some have in the past
But whaddabout the financial clubs
To me itsa kick in the guts to the financially successful AFL clubs


I demand Collingwood be given $9m also. The Lexus center is looking a little run down.
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby mal » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:42 am

To great mates
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Mal
We celebrate our 21st birthday parties together
10 years later :
TSG has worked dilligently, invested wisely, saved well and at 31 has a house paid off , and a permanent job
MAL, cant hold down a job, gambles and drinks away any money he has, and at 31 is broke and a dole bludger

TSG and MAL go to a SANFL footy game
TSG pays his $10 admission
MAL pays $5 with his concession card

MAL gets $300 a week from the Government
TSG does not

Port Power gets 9 million
Other clubs dont
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:50 am

mal wrote:To great mates
The Sleeping Giant
Mal
We celebrate our 21st birthday parties together
10 years later :
TSG has worked dilligently, invested wisely, saved well and at 31 has a house paid off , and a permanent job
MAL, cant hold down a job, gambles and drinks away any money he has, and at 31 is broke and a dole bludger

TSG and MAL go to a SANFL footy game
TSG pays his $10 admission
MAL pays $5 with his concession card

MAL gets $300 a week from the Government
TSG does not

Port Power gets 9 million
Other clubs dont


TSG posts on topic.
mal does not.

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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby james07 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:52 am

mal wrote:To great mates
The Sleeping Giant
Mal
We celebrate our 21st birthday parties together
10 years later :
TSG has worked dilligently, invested wisely, saved well and at 31 has a house paid off , and a permanent job
MAL, cant hold down a job, gambles and drinks away any money he has, and at 31 is broke and a dole bludger

TSG and MAL go to a SANFL footy game
TSG pays his $10 admission
MAL pays $5 with his concession card

MAL gets $300 a week from the Government
TSG does not

Port Power gets 9 million
Other clubs dont



great way to sum it up but youve actually defeated your point, if others get government hadouts for their inability to earn as much as others does that mean everyone should get it???????
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:55 am

My letter to the PAFC :

To the Board and Management of the Port Adelaide Football Club,

Season 2011 has seen the club reach a low point, a low point of which I wished I would never see, but, decades of seeing the club I love reach the heights of repeated SANFL Premierships through to an AFL Premiership give me hope that this can be the time we all look back upon with pride that we were able to see off the tough times to come out the other side a united and stronger club.

With recent support from the clubs AFL licence holder ( SANFL ) and the rallying of sponsors and most importantly members ( 36,000+ ) we, as members, supporters and fans felt the club was heading in the right direction. The "business model", we were told, held us in good stead to turn things around, financially. The "One Club" model was voted on and, much to my delight and satisfaction, passed by the SANFL and the 8 SANFL clubs directors. Finally and for once officially ( not just spiritually ) my Magpies and Power are all under one banner, part of One Club.

With the $4m injection from the SANFL, increased membership, the One Club ticket and a new coach at the helm of our AFL journey we, the members, supporters and fans began to see some positives.

We now hear through absolute media saturation ( and rightly so ) that the club has hit a "cash flow problem" and we have once again put our hand out for help. The SANFL has said no more and, in my opinion, the right people to do this ( the AFL ) have taken over and helped fund our immediate future.

Back to my "business model" comment. My current position with my employer exposes me to day to day running and profitability of a business. When I began in this role I was appointed to assist a relocated Branch Manager ( from Melbourne ) to develop a business model to move from merely a sales branch to a manufacturing facility. In less than 3 years we now have 4 office staff and 9 factory personnel. This is due to sound management, an unrelenting drive to stick to our plan and most importantly, assertive direction from senior management.

What does this have to do with my correspondence today? I fear that our club is being led by people who are not capable of making the tough decisions when needed ( like the choice to reappoint a clearly out of favour Mark Williams ) and by people who do not have the skills to haul our club out of the position we are in.

In my role we do not look to the factory staff to increase our sales, we look to management to set the standards and put procedures and measures in place. This is not happening at Alberton.

I feel that both Brett Duncanson and Mark Haysman are now in an untenable position as they have been given several months to not only implement but use this business model to develop our off field security and have not only failed to do so but have guided us further into a position of instability.

On field the club is at a stand still. Resources afforded to the coaching staff are well publicised as being sub-standard. Thankfully our Allan Scott Headquarters is an astounding facility that at least gives our players and staff a sound platform to work upon. Our off field dilemma has now set our on-field progress back several years and I doubt we will see any finals action in the next 5 or more years. In fact, we could be decades away from being a contender again due to our off field performances.

I am not in a position to demand the resignation of any persons involved in our management team, however I believe the "captain of the ship" has had enough to time to right our course and believe the board should seek to appoint a new CEO and President to lead us into the future.

As a Platinum Member, Season ticket holder, Magpies Member and frequent patron of the Port Club and its facilities I will continue to support the club financially, vehemently defend our honour and heritage and trust the board will make the tough decisions when needed. Now is the time.

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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Big Phil » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:59 am

Well done Booney, nice mate.
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Brodlach » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:21 pm

Well done Booney, very well written.
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Jase » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:24 pm

Big Phil wrote:Well done Booney, nice mate.


x2...

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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Ronnie » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:33 pm

Big Phil wrote:Well done Booney, nice mate.


Agreed, well written.
I don't want to hear Duncanson tell people again how great things are. It's insulting and so far removed from reality it's not funny.
He's just overseen the loss of control of the football business he is meant to be in charge of.

How many Port supporters are capable of this sort of honesty and soul searching though? A lot of football welfare seems to have taken away any capacity for a bit of honest self analysis amongst the great majority of the Port football community. All we hear is of outside influences and how everything will be right mate when we get to Adelaide Oval. Well the Oval move won't solve the problem, but stand by for that revelation down the track. I bet Duncanson won't be around to deliver the news though.
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:38 pm

Booney wrote:
mal wrote:To great mates
The Sleeping Giant
Mal
We celebrate our 21st birthday parties together
10 years later :
TSG has worked dilligently, invested wisely, saved well and at 31 has a house paid off , and a permanent job
MAL, cant hold down a job, gambles and drinks away any money he has, and at 31 is broke and a dole bludger

TSG and MAL go to a SANFL footy game
TSG pays his $10 admission
MAL pays $5 with his concession card

MAL gets $300 a week from the Government
TSG does not

Port Power gets 9 million
Other clubs dont


TSG posts on topic.
mal does not.

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I'm getting :?

And mal, if we go to the footy together, your paying. ;)
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Squawk » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:50 pm

Who did you address it to Booney, if you think the positions of the President and CEO are untenable?
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Banker » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:00 pm

mal wrote:MAL, cant hold down a job, gambles and drinks away any money he has, and at 31 is broke and a dole bludger


:? Your only 31 Mal?




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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:03 pm

Squawk wrote:Who did you address it to Booney, if you think the positions of the President and CEO are untenable?


"To the Board and Management of the Port Adelaide Football Club,"
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Re: Port Cash Crisis = ? for SANFL Clubs and Comp?

Postby Pseudo » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:11 pm

Booney:

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Having scanned through 500-odd responses on the AdelaideNow article, in which almost every single poster wants to direct blame at the SANFL, it is refreshing to see at least one Port fan prepared to look inwards for the solution.

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