Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby StrayDog » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:20 pm

csbowes wrote:Seriously... you'd think it was Port Adelaide that had won 9 of the last 11 flags...


Yeah. Who knows what sort of half-baked, Henny Penny inspired doomsday claptrap we'd be treated to if a club ever did that? Oh, wait....

Sorry folks, play on.
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby Booney » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:34 am

So it appears as though Port Adelaides proposed merger ( as it always has been ) is based upon all off field matters, yet it will be the Adelaide Football Club that puts forward a proposition to have the SANFL expand to 10 teams with the addition of an SANFL based Crows reserves side.

Wonder if Royal City feels as strongly about this...... :roll:
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby beenreal » Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:29 pm

Booney wrote:So it appears as though Port Adelaides proposed merger ( as it always has been ) is based upon all off field matters, yet it will be the Adelaide Football Club that puts forward a proposition to have the SANFL expand to 10 teams with the addition of an SANFL based Crows reserves side.

Wonder if Royal City feels as strongly about this...... :roll:


So you're saying the "Team for all South Australians" now wants to play against all South Australian Teams? :-o
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby Psyber » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:35 pm

beenreal wrote: I say it because the Port Adelaide Hierarchy said YES and Jumped, while the Norwood Hierarchy said YES and.... Paused
I was closer to Norwood back then through my friendship with Keith Le Page.
My understanding then was that Norwood were approached first, agreed to nothing, and went straight to the SANFL and reported the approach.
Was that the "pause"?
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby nickname » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:01 pm

Booney wrote:So it appears as though Port Adelaides proposed merger ( as it always has been ) is based upon all off field matters, yet it will be the Adelaide Football Club that puts forward a proposition to have the SANFL expand to 10 teams with the addition of an SANFL based Crows reserves side.

Wonder if Royal City feels as strongly about this...... :roll:


They said that would be their position if the Magpies became a Power reserves team. But if not, they said they were happy with the status quo.
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby beenreal » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:23 am

nickname wrote:
Booney wrote:So it appears as though Port Adelaides proposed merger ( as it always has been ) is based upon all off field matters, yet it will be the Adelaide Football Club that puts forward a proposition to have the SANFL expand to 10 teams with the addition of an SANFL based Crows reserves side.

Wonder if Royal City feels as strongly about this...... :roll:


They said that would be their position if the Magpies became a Power reserves team. But if not, they said they were happy with the status quo.


So you're saying that in a NATIONAL Competition where other clubs have their own Reserves sides, the Crows only want one if Port Adelaide get one?

Perhaps they need to replace the Crow with the Bower Bird (steals, copies and mimics).
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby Mic » Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:35 am

beenreal wrote:
nickname wrote:
Booney wrote:So it appears as though Port Adelaides proposed merger ( as it always has been ) is based upon all off field matters, yet it will be the Adelaide Football Club that puts forward a proposition to have the SANFL expand to 10 teams with the addition of an SANFL based Crows reserves side.

Wonder if Royal City feels as strongly about this...... :roll:


They said that would be their position if the Magpies became a Power reserves team. But if not, they said they were happy with the status quo.


So you're saying that in a NATIONAL Competition where other clubs have their own Reserves sides, the Crows only want one if Port Adelaide get one?

Perhaps they need to replace the Crow with the Bower Bird (steals, copies and mimics).


Yeah I bet the Crows want to be just like Port Power.
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby beenreal » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:56 am

Mic wrote:
beenreal wrote:
nickname wrote:
Booney wrote:So it appears as though Port Adelaides proposed merger ( as it always has been ) is based upon all off field matters, yet it will be the Adelaide Football Club that puts forward a proposition to have the SANFL expand to 10 teams with the addition of an SANFL based Crows reserves side.

Wonder if Royal City feels as strongly about this...... :roll:


They said that would be their position if the Magpies became a Power reserves team. But if not, they said they were happy with the status quo.


So you're saying that in a NATIONAL Competition where other clubs have their own Reserves sides, the Crows only want one if Port Adelaide get one?

Perhaps they need to replace the Crow with the Bower Bird (steals, copies and mimics).


Yeah I bet the Crows want to be just like Port Power.


Well that would put them one spot further up the ladder for a start! ;)
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby Psyber » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:36 am

beenreal wrote: So you're saying that in a NATIONAL Competition where other clubs have their own Reserves sides, the Crows only want one if Port Adelaide get one?
Perhaps they need to replace the Crow with the Bower Bird (steals, copies and mimics).
"beenreal" you are being unreal.
The Power wanted to turn the Magpies into a reserves team so they could control listed players rather than learn to cooperate with the SANFL clubs.
The Crows made it clear they are happy to cooperate with the rest of SA football rather than be selfish, but won't condone the Power manipulating the situation to gain an advantage over the Crows.
What sort of doublethink let you turn that logical position into your quote above??
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby beenreal » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:15 pm

Psyber wrote:
beenreal wrote: So you're saying that in a NATIONAL Competition where other clubs have their own Reserves sides, the Crows only want one if Port Adelaide get one?
Perhaps they need to replace the Crow with the Bower Bird (steals, copies and mimics).
"beenreal" you are being unreal.
The Power wanted to turn the Magpies into a reserves team so they could control listed players rather than learn to cooperate with the SANFL clubs.
The Crows made it clear they are happy to cooperate with the rest of SA football rather than be selfish, but won't condone the Power manipulating the situation to gain an advantage over the Crows.
What sort of doublethink let you turn that logical position into your quote above??


The only words I have heard/ read from either the Power or Magpies is that it is an off-field, business deal. So it is you and others of your ilk that are talking about Port Adelaide Reserves sides.

Irrespective, the AFC are playing against 15 other clubs, so they should be looking to get a competitive advantage over ALL sides, not just Port Adelaide.
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby Media Park » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:19 pm

Reading my signature, I thought I was the one who came up with the most bollocks on this site, but beenreal, you supplant me. :lol:
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby nickname » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:31 pm

beenreal wrote:
nickname wrote:
Booney wrote:So it appears as though Port Adelaides proposed merger ( as it always has been ) is based upon all off field matters, yet it will be the Adelaide Football Club that puts forward a proposition to have the SANFL expand to 10 teams with the addition of an SANFL based Crows reserves side.

Wonder if Royal City feels as strongly about this...... :roll:


They said that would be their position if the Magpies became a Power reserves team. But if not, they said they were happy with the status quo.


So you're saying that in a NATIONAL Competition where other clubs have their own Reserves sides, the Crows only want one if Port Adelaide get one?

Perhaps they need to replace the Crow with the Bower Bird (steals, copies and mimics).


I'm not saying it, it's the Crows stated position.
And not all AFL clubs have reserves sides.
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby Media Park » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:59 pm

So if the Maggies are the Reserves side for the Power, what happens to Scott Stevens or Stiffy, if they are dropped to the SANFL (Magpies being their club)?
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby beenreal » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:42 pm

Media Park wrote:So if the Maggies are the Reserves side for the Power, what happens to Scott Stevens or Stiffy, if they are dropped to the SANFL (Magpies being their club)?


I'm not buying into this side of the debate because:

A: I don't know

AND

B: It is NOT Port Adelaide's stated position
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby Psyber » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:35 am

Port tried it on then dropped it when in met opposition a few months ago so now it's not their stated position.
But who trusts them..
By the way the fortnight is up. Where is the announcement?
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby Go Legs » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:22 am

Here's an easy fix that really helps the SANFL (Which is my only and total concern)

Let them both have a reserve side, but it plays as part of the VFL as the other clubs do travelling every second week with the A side. I couldn't give a rats about how the AFL sides or the AFL proper finance this it's their problem.

SANFL then has an 8 team competition (Minus the Magpies) and we get back to normal play each other 3 times in a season with no byes.

1 game at Home, 1 Away and 1 at Neutral SANFL League headquarters or, were-ever the SANFL Finals will be played in that year to take into account the eventual switch to Adelaide Oval, that way no team is disadvantaged, and we never again have to concern ourselves with disruptive AFL players dropping back into our respective SANFL sides.

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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby GWW » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:41 pm

As a Port supporter, i would like to see that Go Legs. I do however think the SANFL and its clubs wouldn't support it as it would involve removing 15 or so players from the SANFL each round.
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby am Bays » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:44 pm

So the fortnight is up.....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

Postby sjt » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:58 pm

GWW wrote:As a Port supporter, i would like to see that Go Legs. I do however think the SANFL and its clubs wouldn't support it as it would involve removing 15 or so players from the SANFL each round.


I'm not sure that would be the problem GWW, although it may mean a few SANFL players would be paid less as 100% of a team list would have to fit in the salary cap, no use of "free" AFL listed players. However, if this were the case Port's salary cap proposition may be more suitable (i.e local players with 100 games only applying to half the salary cap). The only problem I would envisage is the cost of running a "legitimate" reserves side. Demetriou, I believe stated previously neither AFL team can afford a reserves team.
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