Prelim Final Norwood v Eagles Post Game Reviews

[finn]

Two moments which I thought gave Norwood a big chance in the last few minutes was when Polec kicked it out on the full - I think he was going for the pocket, but shanked it.
And when the mark wasn't paid next to the behind post because it was touched. Instead of us getting possession of the ball with 1 minute 14 left, it was a 50/50 contest, and you can guess the rest. Can't blame Polec overall though, was everywhere in the first half.

that mark was juggled over the line and called by the boundary umpire. he really should have just let it go without trying to mark it as it was chest high.

is there something in the water with younger players now - polec, smith (both very good yesterday) and allmond all gave the ball away trying to outside the ball on their left foot rather than going with the right. also noticed that shenton doesn't have a left?

norwood will need to look at their forward setup - playing nobody deep really hurt in the first three quarters. luckily norwood's run didn't stop in the last.

gallagher may have had 34 touches but he does burn the ball regularly among his quality touches; however, you take his good with the bad. his workrate and pressure are outstanding though - and his brother really thinks he should look for the goals more.

with norwood's supposedly defensive tactics - i noticed that the eagles were also quite happy to leave their extra players behind the ball - a real chicken and egg argument. as has been shown before, one way of counteracting the zone is just to play man on man and hold position.

great win - i'll be there sunday hoping that the legs get over the line. if centrals win, i'd expect buckets mackenzie to have done a lot of the damage - may have to have a sneaky tenner on him for the fos.

[Columbo]

Did we see the ump in the LAST QTR go to bounce the ball, and then threw it up !!!!

Saw it yesterday and also noticed this happen a few times in the reserves finals this year if the ruckmen where too close to the ump as he was going to bounce it.

While we are talking umps, could yesterday have been Richard's last game?

[mal]

It must be very offsetting for the ruckman who can get caught out of position when the Umps do the bouncenothrowupshuffle

Why dont ALL umps in ALL comps just throw the ball up

Did we also see the crooked bounces in this game

[whufc]

It must be very offsetting for the ruckman who can get caught out of position when the Umps do the bouncenothrowupshuffle

Why dont ALL umps in ALL comps just throw the ball up

Did we also see the crooked bounces in this game

100% agree my reason

1. bouncing the ball adds nothing to the specatale of an Aussie rules game
2. more stress and unneeded energy used by the umpires
3. bad bounces occasionally give teams an undeserved and unfair undvantage when this could be easily eliminated.

[mal]

When an umpire focusses on bouncing the ball he is concentrating on not stuffing up
His vision of the rucks duels must surely be impeded ?
If they throw the ball up, they can surely eye off the ruck duels more adequately ?

Think of how many good umpires might never make it becoz they cant bounce a ball, especially when learning at a YOUNGer age

[sjt]

When an umpire focusses on bouncing the ball he is concentrating on not stuffing up
His vision of the rucks duels must surely be impeded ?
If they throw the ball up, they can surely eye off the ruck duels more adequately ?

Think of how many good umpires might never make it becoz they cant bounce a ball, especially when learning at a YOUNGer age

How do you set up a poll? I vote throw it up.

[CedeNullis]

One team thought they had the game won and played safe. The other kept going til the final siren. Here endeth the lesson.

[LPH]

No, I disagree...
I think the reason for the negativity was a degree of panic.

We had 20 fit players - Grocke was off the ground getting his 'webbing' stitched & the injuries were piling up. I agree we went defensive too early but perhaps that was due to the prediciment we faced.

Not saying I agree with it but perhaps that was the instructions. If it was, then was a poor decision in IMHO but I can understand it.

Must say though, I don't like the St. Kilda type game plan of Norwood - is boring but effective.

[Voice]

When an umpire focusses on bouncing the ball he is concentrating on not stuffing up
His vision of the rucks duels must surely be impeded ?
If they throw the ball up, they can surely eye off the ruck duels more adequately ?

Think of how many good umpires might never make it becoz they cant bounce a ball, especially when learning at a YOUNGer age

How do you set up a poll? I vote throw it up.

I've started it for you.

[CedeNullis]

No, I disagree...
I think the reason for the negativity was a degree of panic.

We had 20 fit players - Grocke was off the ground getting his 'webbing' stitched & the injuries were piling up. I agree we went defensive too early but perhaps that was due to the prediciment we faced.

Not saying I agree with it but perhaps that was the instructions. If it was, then was a poor decision in IMHO but I can understand it.

Must say though, I don't like the St. Kilda type game plan of Norwood - is boring but effective.

Grocke being off the ground was a major problem for the Eagles. He provided a presence up forward and was playing well.
I thought during the third quarter, the Eagles tried to slow the game down. Obviously, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[topsywaldron]

Must say though, I don't like the St. Kilda type game plan of Norwood - is boring but effective.

It must have been a mirage in the second half with all those yellow jumpers kicking backwards and holding onto the ball for an eternity.

[LPH]

Knew there'd be a comeback like that - refer above & reasons.
What about the 'flood' in the 1st half - go on, deny it

[SpionKopster]

The Winners can

And the losers can please themselves!

[LPH]

30 posts, eh???

Hmmmm... about as new as your hat & scarf

[bloods08]

Knew there'd be a comeback like that - refer above & reasons.
What about the 'flood' in the 1st half - go on, deny it

No, no, no, no, no, no. Only West Adelaide flood. Everyone else just gets numbers behind the ball.

[JK]

Knew there'd be a comeback like that - refer above & reasons.
What about the 'flood' in the 1st half - go on, deny it

No, no, no, no, no, no. Only West Adelaide flood. Everyone else just gets numbers behind the ball.

Or everyone else still tries to score

[SpionKopster]

31 Posts now LEH!

mmm, I've had my scarf since I was 5 or 6, so 27 - 28 years old, we've won 27 flags and hopefully it will be 28 come dusk Sunday night!

[holden78]

Unfortunately this quote from NO-MERCY is spot on ! Well done to Norwood though ......... Now for Coach Godden...... if as you have said , the players took some initiation to play Tempo style footy early in the 3rd term , WHY ? You got this coaching job because one of your points of difference was you wanted to score more / attack more ! Send the runner out and stop that stuff . I think you didnt have the balls to do it because it was the older players that were instigating the Tempo and you let them have their way because they were a little fatigued . Thats such a Rookie mistake and until you as coach learn that you can love the players and their effort as much as you like , but there will at some stage come times when they must be forced to give more then they think they can . Now if thats not right and the players were spent , then we need new recruits and better training regimes because waiting to get the dream run into the second semi then GF with no injuries might not ever happen ! Yeh we had a good / very good year , but there was some crap , low grade stuff thrown in as well . A very close look at our list management needs to happen again asap because the possible turnover could be quite larger then anything previously encountered . If that indeed does happen , then we will really see how good the Godden / Davies partnership is wont we !

Eagles

I can't believe this team plays attacking football in the first half & defensive in the second.
If that was the coaches instructions well you deserve to lose today.
Why wouldn't you keep attacking when your 29pts up at half time?
29pts down in todays footy is getable even after a 3qtr time break.
The Eagles tried slowing the game down after half time playing short pathetic footy & gave Norwood the momentum in doing so.
Well done to Norwood, they never gave up but i can't see them getting anywhere near Centrals next week.
Eagles you were soft & embarrassing after half time & got what you deserved.

[Mickyj]

I haven't read this thread so if any one is having a go at me so be it .
Well done to Norwood they were the far better side in the second half .Eagles lost Grocke during the third term no grocke no Eagles forward line
But a big well done to my Eagles for making so far into the finals when the "EXPERTS" didn't give them a chance.

So I'll start fishing this weekend
Until next year the footy is over for me !!

[wedgetail]

Interesting stat from the game.
First half, Eags had 30 run/receive handballs, in the second half, only 8.
This cost us the game as we didn't take the game on any more.
As for why we didn't take the game on, I think a combination of injuries, running out of gas after 2 supreme efforts in the other finals, Norwood playing with more intensity and perhaps getting ahead of ourselves and in the end some panic may have all contibuted.
Immensely proud of our efforts this year. If I'd been offered 3rd at the start of the year and 1 kick from the GF, I would have taken it.
Written off by most punters, it gave us great pleasure to finish ahead of 6 other sides and to go into 2011 with a lot of confidence. Godden will only get better as a coach and the recruiting will be much better than recent.
Interesting point- in the era from 2000 to 2010, now only 2 sides, PAM and SA haven't challenged CD in a GF.