Port Magpies

[Hondo]

Been pondering some AA caller's so-stupid-it-just-might-work solution to save both flavours of the PAFC in one fell swoop tonight: Move the Maggies back to their rightful home at Alberton with all the history, creed and glory restored. Shift the Puffs to Adelaide Oval, scrap the Est: 1870 nonsense and sever all ties with the Port name that has seen their supporter base steadily haemorrhage and call themselves the Adelaide Power or something similar. Both moves could feasibly > increase members & coin

This idea appeals to me. The second AFL team associated with Port will always struggle. Make it totally independant of Port and it will flourish. Maybe the two Adelaide AFL teams could be based on some sort of geographical lines such as north v south or east v west. Scrap footy park and have them both play at a revamped Adelaide Oval with 50-55,000 capacity.

Best I can tell the 30,000 or so PAP members and the average 25,000 or so that go to games are mostly right behind the 1870 thing. It's an important part of the team they financially support. It's their team, who the f.... are we to tell them they can't be Port Adelaide anymore. Why on earth would you risk losing some of those supporters by re-badging the Power to some generic Crows Mark II? The "Adelaide" Power? Come on. You would lose more supporters than you would gain.

Imagine the uproar if I came on here and made sweeping statements about how I think Sturt should become the Adelaide Hills Blues because, you know, I am now an expert on Sturt and I know what's best for them (even though I am a biased outsider). We need to get over ourselves and let them sort it out. PAM's fate seems tied up in their Hotel and the pokies, not in re-badging PAP.

These pie in the sky ideas are always put forward by non-Port people who think they have become armchair Football Club CEOs for a day and suddenly have all the answers.

[Booney]

Hondo, you nearly made me cry.

"What they should have done...." or "What they should do...." is a all a load of BS.

What we should do is win games of footy again ( see 2002/3/4 ) and things will turn around, slowly,but surely.

Port Adelaide have for many years been much more accessable to Junior sporting lcubs and schools and given time ( in 97 the club said 15 years-more likely to be 20-25 ) the younger population not scarred by the Magpie of old and not wanting to be "just another Crow" will make the shift.

The Power's junior membership is great, we just need to ensure those kids move into adult hood handing over their hard earned to be a part of what ever success we may have in the future.But the "X-Box" generation doesn't have the same passion for a club as many of us do.

One point not being raised is the AFL is not as consumer friendly as it should be. Tickets and Merchandise can be very costly and people are now deciding to spend their money in different ways, not everyone has football or their football club as the major priority in their lives.

Hard to believe,I know.

[Dogwatcher]

With due respect to the DW's tongue in cheek blog (a funny read), the fact that he's feels confident enough to post that says something. There are sites where he'd be crucified for that yet we all know it will generate nothing more than 2 pages of supportive, banal responses and go nowhere.

I was hoping to wake up a few sleeping Maggies with that piece.
It wasn't posted with an air of confidence, posted with an air of despondence that we are seeing so little worry from posters on this site about the threat of Port Adelaide going down.
Where's the passion? For either argument...

Bubbling way at the moment, but come on guys!

[Wedgie]

I think Sturt should become the Adelaide Hills Blues

Only smart thing I've ever heard you say. Makes sense as they're closer to the Adelaide Hills than Sturt.

[Hondo]

The "only" smart thing?

[Wedgie]

The "only" smart thing?

yup

[pipers]

I think the reason this thread is slow is because there's just not enough Port people on this site. Why? Where are they? It's the same posters saying the same thing every time. Including me

I had a look for a different perspective on this issue and visited the Power board on bigFooty. My god Obviously I don't agree with everything posted in there but I've got to say these SAFooty threads would be a hell of a lot more lively if some of those guys posted on here!

Those bigFooty posters are symptomatic of the problem. In fact I'd suggest they are the problem.

[pipers]

Who is the real PAFC? The club who has participated in the same competition for 123 years, and is in danger of being extinct.

Hear, hear!

[UK Fan]

I think the reason this thread is slow is because there's just not enough Port people on this site. Why? Where are they? It's the same posters saying the same thing every time. Including me

I had a look for a different perspective on this issue and visited the Power board on bigFooty. My god Obviously I don't agree with everything posted in there but I've got to say these SAFooty threads would be a hell of a lot more lively if some of those guys posted on here!

Those bigFooty posters are symptomatic of the problem. In fact I'd suggest they are the problem.

They wouldn't deign to sign on SANFL site from what I've read. Apparently we're a meaningless relic from the 1970's. Wouldn't want them here.

[Hondo]

UK Fan, in some of the posts I read I completely agree with you! You should see some of the comments about the SANFL and even the PAM. Unbelievable.

And you think my harmless posts like "Port spin money for the SANFL from AAMI Stadium" are a threat to your world. You ain't seen nothin!

[Magpiespower]

Reakon the Magpies future fan base is a great concern.

Future generations of Port supporters are more likely to barrack for the Power.

Where does that leave the Magpies in ten, twenty years?

Hell, my own 8 year-old nephew barracks for the Port in the AFL.

And the Eagles in the SANFL.



But ask him which team he barracks for and he'll tell you Port.

Every time...

[The Yetti]

Who is the real PAFC? The club who has participated in the same competition for 123 years, and is in danger of being extinct.

Hear, hear!

Hear Hear again.
The Port Adelaide Football Club Brand which once was an Icon in Football has been has been constantly devalued and changed since the Power has come along that supporters and members are confused.
As Spellcheck has stated Who is the real PAFC.

Port Adelaide Magpies have had their Brand and Club Stolen by a new AFL Club...The Power.

The SANFL needs The Maggies and as much as I hated playing at Alberton, and playing against them, it is hard not to have some sort of respect for such a successful club.
Whether we love em or hate em, there is no greater joy for an old SANFL player than to beat Port Maggies.

It is time to draw a line in the sand.
Port Adelaide Magpies who have been around for over 120 years

and


Port Power since 1997

not Port Adelaide Power or any of the other names they have stolen

AMEN

[Chambo100]

No matter which side of the "who is the real Port Adelaide" ledger you stand on, the endless debate in the public and media forums about it, is certainly diminishing "Port Adelaide" as a brand.

[Dutchy]

Been pondering some AA caller's so-stupid-it-just-might-work solution to save both flavours of the PAFC in one fell swoop tonight: Move the Maggies back to their rightful home at Alberton with all the history, creed and glory restored. Shift the Puffs to Adelaide Oval, scrap the Est: 1870 nonsense and sever all ties with the Port name that has seen their supporter base steadily haemorrhage and call themselves the Adelaide Power or something similar. Both moves could feasibly > increase members & coin

This idea appeals to me. The second AFL team associated with Port will always struggle. Make it totally independant of Port and it will flourish. Maybe the two Adelaide AFL teams could be based on some sort of geographical lines such as north v south or east v west. Scrap footy park and have them both play at a revamped Adelaide Oval with 50-55,000 capacity.

Yeah I heard that and agreed it has some merit, give the Magpies back their oval and heritage and have "Adelaide Power" playing out of Adelaide Oval with their admin there as well.....could work very very well, with a team playing at Adelaide Oval they are likely to get more support from the neutrals that will wonder down there cause of the handy location

[Booney]

People talk about the Port Adelaide Football Club as some sort of comodity, as though the AFL version purchased the rights from the SANFL version.

Tell me this,in amatuer league circles do clubs have their heritage questioned when they move from one division to the next?

Do amatuer league clubs not have the ability to claim a Div 1 flag from years ago now that they are in Div 3?

Do amatuer league clubs have to find a new identity / heritage when they change divisions?

I dont think they do, so why, why cant the "Port Adelaide Football Club" which now has a team represent it in the AFL not have the same rights?

[Booney]

Been pondering some AA caller's so-stupid-it-just-might-work solution to save both flavours of the PAFC in one fell swoop tonight: Move the Maggies back to their rightful home at Alberton with all the history, creed and glory restored. Shift the Puffs to Adelaide Oval, scrap the Est: 1870 nonsense and sever all ties with the Port name that has seen their supporter base steadily haemorrhage and call themselves the Adelaide Power or something similar. Both moves could feasibly > increase members & coin

This idea appeals to me. The second AFL team associated with Port will always struggle. Make it totally independant of Port and it will flourish. Maybe the two Adelaide AFL teams could be based on some sort of geographical lines such as north v south or east v west. Scrap footy park and have them both play at a revamped Adelaide Oval with 50-55,000 capacity.

Yeah I heard that and agreed it has some merit, give the Magpies back their oval and heritage and have "Adelaide Power" playing out of Adelaide Oval with their admin there as well.....could work very very well, with a team playing at Adelaide Oval they are likely to get more support from the neutrals that will wonder down there cause of the handy location

Right, so put your hand up as a neutral who would follow the "Adelaide Power" knowing full well it is Port Adelaide renamed?

Yeah,right...

[Hondo]

Of course the Crows won't have any issue with the name "Adelaide Power"

And, as I said before, the existing PAP members will be fully supportive too. They don't really like the Port Adelaide link anyway. It's not the reason they buy memberships



Seriously now ... the only part of it that has legs IMO is playing games at the Adelaide Oval

[Macca19]

Exactly. It has zero merit. Adelaide Power? gimme a break.

[fish]

Been pondering some AA caller's so-stupid-it-just-might-work solution to save both flavours of the PAFC in one fell swoop tonight: Move the Maggies back to their rightful home at Alberton with all the history, creed and glory restored. Shift the Puffs to Adelaide Oval, scrap the Est: 1870 nonsense and sever all ties with the Port name that has seen their supporter base steadily haemorrhage and call themselves the Adelaide Power or something similar. Both moves could feasibly > increase members & coin

This idea appeals to me. The second AFL team associated with Port will always struggle. Make it totally independant of Port and it will flourish. Maybe the two Adelaide AFL teams could be based on some sort of geographical lines such as north v south or east v west. Scrap footy park and have them both play at a revamped Adelaide Oval with 50-55,000 capacity.

Yeah I heard that and agreed it has some merit, give the Magpies back their oval and heritage and have "Adelaide Power" playing out of Adelaide Oval with their admin there as well.....could work very very well, with a team playing at Adelaide Oval they are likely to get more support from the neutrals that will wonder down there cause of the handy location

Right, so put your hand up as a neutral who would follow the "Adelaide Power" knowing full well it is Port Adelaide renamed?

Yeah,right...

Agreed: get rid of the "Power" name altogether...

And that woeful theme song.

[Booney]

Let's not let this debate fall into the depths of the Sturt V Centrals thread that has people arguing about the origin of the colours the team wears, lets leave the song out of this, please...