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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:15 am

A serious question out of left field...

Why bring a flag, with the union jack on one side and the st george cross on the other? Whats the history behind it?
It may have something to do with the Dogs' fore fathers but I thought we were in Australia and this game is Australian.

Is that the reason for the flares? This aint the EPL...
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby zipzap » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:33 am

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:A serious question out of left field...

Why bring a flag, with the union jack on one side and the st george cross on the other? Whats the history behind it?
It may have something to do with the Dogs' fore fathers but I thought we were in Australia and this game is Australian.

Is that the reason for the flares? This aint the EPL...


Someone on the hill was asked that question and they said cos its red, white and blue. Mmmm yeah, but so is the Aussie flag and you don't see that amongst CD fans. Give em enough rope...
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:33 am

Brucetiki wrote:
lesthemechanic wrote:what if the guy had a weapon of some sort. Best leave these drunken idiots to the people who are there to deal with them.


1. The tool did try and have another crack at Gowans. I don't know whether you call that bravery or stupidity - maybe bravely stupid.

2. The tool also broke free from a Wereslow. In the end I think the cops had better success bundling him over the fence.


Gowans or no Gowans, anyone who runs ont othe ground while it is in progress is STUPID. Nothing brave about it. I really don't know what gets into some of these morons who go to the footy. It's too easy to blame it on the alcohol, but a lot of people can have a lot to drink and still not see the need to behave like an idiot.

If I were Gowans I would have decked the guy, no question about it, because I have no time for idiots who run onto the ground for any reason. Maybe it's time they made an announcement to the public prior to each game that they enter the arena at their own risk.

This is what happens when we allow people to invade the arena for a 100th goal. They start to think it's okay for any other reason as well. Give some people a chance to be an idiot, and they will take it.
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby CENTURION » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:42 am

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:A serious question out of left field...

Why bring a flag, with the union jack on one side and the st george cross on the other? Whats the history behind it?
It may have something to do with the Dogs' fore fathers but I thought we were in Australia and this game is Australian.

Is that the reason for the flares? This aint the EPL...

Well, there we go, something else to whinge about, only because it concerns The Mighty 'Dogs supporters! Well, I heard a rumour that SOME Central supporters put the toilet roll on with the paper running down the wall, not away from the wall! The Fu***ng liberty!
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:44 am

zipzap wrote:
HeartBeatsTrue wrote:A serious question out of left field...

Why bring a flag, with the union jack on one side and the st george cross on the other? Whats the history behind it?
It may have something to do with the Dogs' fore fathers but I thought we were in Australia and this game is Australian.

Is that the reason for the flares? This aint the EPL...


Someone on the hill was asked that question and they said cos its red, white and blue. Mmmm yeah, but so is the Aussie flag and you don't see that amongst CD fans. Give em enough rope...

The St George Cross is red and white!!
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby Psyber » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:45 am

CENTURION wrote:
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Pseudo wrote:At the risk of sounding out of place - are the flares really a problem? I think it adds a bit of colour; is a signal from the Dogs fans that they are claiming victory, not unlike JB rousing the Snouts into a rendition of "A Tiger For Me" when the game is won. Thus far nobody has lost an eye, so all is well...

It may not be good for any asthmatics in the crowd nearby.

Neither are jet engines, car engines, factory emmissions, cow farts, rotting garbage, over-spray from nearby Ventolins blah, blah, blah.
No, but the asthmatic can choose to avoid them and not have them forced on them unexpectedly. Being forced to overuse Ventolin can be fatal.
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby sjt » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:35 am

Geez, Heartbeats true how pedantic can you get! How can you make a posting on such trivial crap. I saw someone wearing crows gear and the Crows weren't playing, how amazing is that. Maybe if some supporters focused more on their own club and how to improve it rather than expending energy on irrelevant drivel they might improve. For me I'd rather focus on 11 Grand finals out of 14 than who has the better cheerleaders, mascots and what flags and signs supporters have. However you're obviously entitled to ask the question if you can't work it out for yourself.
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby CedeNullis » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:49 am

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:A serious question out of left field...

Why bring a flag, with the union jack on one side and the st george cross on the other? Whats the history behind it?
It may have something to do with the Dogs' fore fathers but I thought we were in Australia and this game is Australian.

Is that the reason for the flares? This aint the EPL...

Totally agree HeartBeatsTrue. I'm sure the guy that brings that half Union Jack, half St. George flag to games is a very passionate Doggies fan. But, those flags have NOTHING to do with the Central District Football Club. I've brought this up in previous years on our website to deafening silence. We are CDFC, an Australian football club, we are Red, White and Blue and not some substitute England team. :twisted:
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby calzy » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:12 am

A BRITISH BULLDOG has represented our club since it was founded in 1959, 4 years after Elizabeth itself was founded.
Elizabeth developed in the 60s, our club entered the competition the 60s and a lot of people came from England and settled out North in the 60s, my parents too.
There's no club directive in regard to the Union Jacks at games etc, it's just a fan thing.
Why do people get upset by this?
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby CENTURION » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:35 am

calzy wrote:We have a BRITISH BULLDOG on our club logo since day one. Elizabeth developed in the 60s, our club entered the competition the 60s and a lot of people came from England and settled out North in the 60s, my parents too.
There's no club directive in regard to the Union Jacks at games etc, it's just a fan thing.
Why do people get upset by this?

Ridiculous, isn't it? I wore black & white jocks on sunday, what do you think about that?
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby CENTURION » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:36 am

OH! I ALSO live in Rostrevor but barrack for The Mighty 'Dogs! I should be banned from every game!
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby calzy » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:42 am

You are a @#$%ing disgrace Centurion!
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby JK » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:45 am

CENTURION wrote:Ridiculous, isn't it? I wore black & white jocks on sunday, what do you think about that?


Obviously you're one of those Port wannabe's that runs the toilet paper down the wall :wink:
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby CedeNullis » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:50 am

calzy wrote:A BRITISH BULLDOG has represented our club since it was founded in 1959, 4 years after Elizabeth itself was founded.
Elizabeth developed in the 60s, our club entered the competition the 60s and a lot of people came from England and settled out North in the 60s, my parents too.
There's no club directive in regard to the Union Jacks at games etc, it's just a fan thing.
Why do people get upset by this?

The Bulldog has always been our emblem. But this is historically linked with the Footscray Football Club in the then VFL. That is also where our colours came from. In fact, Footscray Football Club was the first patron of CDFC. There are heaps of sporting clubs throughout the world who have the Bulldog emblem. The old Canterbury/Bankstown League team, South Fremantle, Georgia Tech , Georgetown and Mississippi State in the USA all have the Bulldog as their emblem. And to the best of my knowledge I don't think they have ever seen a St. George flag (red and white) waved at their games. Like I said before we CDFC not England.
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby calzy » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:57 am

CedeNullis wrote:
calzy wrote:A BRITISH BULLDOG has represented our club since it was founded in 1959, 4 years after Elizabeth itself was founded.
Elizabeth developed in the 60s, our club entered the competition the 60s and a lot of people came from England and settled out North in the 60s, my parents too.
There's no club directive in regard to the Union Jacks at games etc, it's just a fan thing.
Why do people get upset by this?

The Bulldog has always been our emblem. But this is historically linked with the Footscray Football Club in the then VFL. That is also where our colours came from. In fact, Footscray Football Club was the first patron of CDFC. There are heaps of sporting clubs throughout the world who have the Bulldog emblem. The old Canterbury/Bankstown League team, South Fremantle, Georgia Tech , Georgetown and Mississippi State in the USA all have the Bulldog as their emblem. And to the best of my knowledge I don't think they have ever seen a St. George flag (red and white) waved at their games. Like I said before we CDFC not England.


From Wikipedia:
Uniquely for an Australian Rules club, Centrals have a very strong British migrant identity and supporter base as Elizabeth was a centre of UK migrant settlements in South Australia. The colours and emblem of the club also reflect this rich British background. The colours were adopted from a UK soccer side depicted on a souvenir card however the exact identity of which club inspired the colours has not been revealed. To this day, Union Jack's are identifiable with Centrals. The colours were also influenced by Footscray in the VFL, the new club's inaugural patron, and the same Bulldog emblem was adopted for its working class connotations.

With this British background, Centrals fans also have a reputation for singing and chanting in the manner of UK soccer supporters. The chants 'Ceeeeeeeeeenntttrrrrraaaaaaaaaaalllllllllssssss' and 'You Dogs' are the most well known supporter chants/songs in the South Australian National Football League.


Cede Nullis, can you point me to where you brought this up on the CDFC website as I can't find anything.
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby CedeNullis » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm

calzy wrote:Cede Nullis, can you point me to where you brought this up on the CDFC website as I can't find anything.

Here is some brief stuff in the History part of the webpage but more detailed material in Rob Laidlaw's "Alamanac'. Don't forgot that Wikipedia entry is one supporter's view.
I think the point is no one group should think they own a football club. I've know people from heaps of different backgrounds, Dutch, Scots, Irish, English, Italian, and even the odd Aussie :wink: who follow the Bulldogs. That is where I'm coming from. I have yet to see "Three Lions" printed on any CDFC merchandise. As for the soccer chanting stuff...love it!
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby CedeNullis » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:29 pm

"Welcome to Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit."
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby Pseudo » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:37 pm

CedeNullis wrote:
calzy wrote:A BRITISH BULLDOG has represented our club since it was founded in 1959, 4 years after Elizabeth itself was founded.
Elizabeth developed in the 60s, our club entered the competition the 60s and a lot of people came from England and settled out North in the 60s, my parents too.
There's no club directive in regard to the Union Jacks at games etc, it's just a fan thing.
Why do people get upset by this?

The Bulldog has always been our emblem. But this is historically linked with the Footscray Football Club in the then VFL. That is also where our colours came from. In fact, Footscray Football Club was the first patron of CDFC. There are heaps of sporting clubs throughout the world who have the Bulldog emblem. The old Canterbury/Bankstown League team, South Fremantle, Georgia Tech , Georgetown and Mississippi State in the USA all have the Bulldog as their emblem. And to the best of my knowledge I don't think they have ever seen a St. George flag (red and white) waved at their games. Like I said before we CDFC not England.


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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby Psyber » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:40 pm

CedeNullis wrote:"Welcome to Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit."
(from the Wikipedia home page)

Yeah true, but that entry is fairly right. I was around and going to football when Centrals were being formed. There was a deliberate attempt to connect to the local Pommie population and enlist their support. [I can say "Pommie" my mother was one although she never lived out there.]
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Re: WE OWE THEM!!!!

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:18 pm

Hmmm...what has a Celtic got to do with American basketball....
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