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Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:44 am
by daysofourlives
o five wrote:
Second Team wrote:
o five wrote:Forget about BIG TV deals and AFL Reserves teams saving our comp. The only way the SANFL will prosper is if the Powers of SA football start to cap these Country clubs. We are losing very good players to these clubs at an alarming rate.
Only problem is that the AFL will have no problem with this as, it is keeping the SANFL as a feeder comp. :x


How many star SANFL players have left to go to the country. Most are reserve players that are not going to make it or older players who's bodies are giving up on them.


If you think these players are leaving the SANFL because their bodies are shagged ,you are kidding yourself. I am just saying we are losing players like Mickeljon and Ebert to cashed up Country clubs when they could still be playing in the SANFL.
I don`t blame the players for this, as they do have to make a living.
I know we lost Ladhams a few years back now to the Country and he certainly had more to offer at that time.


I can guarentee players like Mielklejohn and Ebert would earn more playing SANFL than country footy. Its the commitment required that they dont want to do anymore.
For the level that the SANFL is the training demands are way too much, put a cap on that!

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:13 pm
by Jim05
daysofourlives wrote:
o five wrote:
Second Team wrote:
o five wrote:Forget about BIG TV deals and AFL Reserves teams saving our comp. The only way the SANFL will prosper is if the Powers of SA football start to cap these Country clubs. We are losing very good players to these clubs at an alarming rate.
Only problem is that the AFL will have no problem with this as, it is keeping the SANFL as a feeder comp. :x


How many star SANFL players have left to go to the country. Most are reserve players that are not going to make it or older players who's bodies are giving up on them.


If you think these players are leaving the SANFL because their bodies are shagged ,you are kidding yourself. I am just saying we are losing players like Mickeljon and Ebert to cashed up Country clubs when they could still be playing in the SANFL.
I don`t blame the players for this, as they do have to make a living.
I know we lost Ladhams a few years back now to the Country and he certainly had more to offer at that time.


I can guarentee players like Mielklejohn and Ebert would earn more playing SANFL than country footy. Its the commitment required that they dont want to do anymore.
For the level that the SANFL is the training demands are way too much, put a cap on that!

Spot on, its not the money.
Bit rich asking guys to train 5-6 days a week to play in a development league. Much easier to train 1-2 nights a week at a country club

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:32 pm
by heater31
cracka wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
o five wrote:Forget about BIG TV deals and AFL Reserves teams saving our comp. The only way the SANFL will prosper is if the Powers of SA football start to cap these Country clubs. We are losing very good players to these clubs at an alarming rate.
Only problem is that the AFL will have no problem with this as, it is keeping the SANFL as a feeder comp. :x

There is no way that country clubs can ever be capped as most players are probably paid under the table by wealthy sponsors. If a country club can afford it good luck to them and I dont blame players for leaving the SANFL

Only way it could be done is if players & clubs have to sign stat decs on what they are paid but that could be more of a nightmare than anything.


Only way is to get the tax department involved. Don't think players would take to kindly to an audit and have their football income taxed as a 2nd job much like current SANFL players are taxed....

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:37 pm
by Jim05
heater31 wrote:
cracka wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
o five wrote:Forget about BIG TV deals and AFL Reserves teams saving our comp. The only way the SANFL will prosper is if the Powers of SA football start to cap these Country clubs. We are losing very good players to these clubs at an alarming rate.
Only problem is that the AFL will have no problem with this as, it is keeping the SANFL as a feeder comp. :x

There is no way that country clubs can ever be capped as most players are probably paid under the table by wealthy sponsors. If a country club can afford it good luck to them and I dont blame players for leaving the SANFL

Only way it could be done is if players & clubs have to sign stat decs on what they are paid but that could be more of a nightmare than anything.


Only way is to get the tax department involved. Don't think players would take to kindly to an audit and have their football income taxed as a 2nd job much like current SANFL players are taxed....

Can never be done, there are so many ways around it.
In country footy there is always plenty of well off supporters who are more than willing to slip some cash in the players back pockets. Plenty of players would be getting paid off the clubs books

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:58 pm
by dedja
Sorry lads, just had a siesta, anything happening?

And subsequently posted in the wrong threat ... WADH :lol:

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:11 pm
by Grahaml
Jim05 wrote:Can never be done, there are so many ways around it.
In country footy there is always plenty of well off supporters who are more than willing to slip some cash in the players back pockets. Plenty of players would be getting paid off the clubs books


This is wrong. There is plenty the ATO can do about it if they do an investigation. The question is merely whether the ATO has the resources to look into it when they have a lot of other things they need to be doing.

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:18 am
by StrayDog
am Bays wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Centrals recruiting has been very underwhelming...

The modern Footballer/recruit just doesn't want to play for a club that still sews numbers onto it's guernsies Dutchy.

Good to see it's not just the cards and wrapping paper getting recycled this week. Nice efforts lads. ;)

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:58 am
by Big Phil
Dutchy wrote:Centrals recruiting has been very underwhelming...

Compared to the Bays pick ups, EVERYONE'S recruiting has been underwhelming...

The Dogs are never going to be able to have a year when they get the likes of Nason and Sansbury back, though ;)

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:49 am
by cracka
Jim05 wrote:In country footy there is always plenty of well off supporters who are more than willing to slip some cash in the players back pockets. Plenty of players would be getting paid off the clubs books


Surely this would also happen in the SANFL.

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:54 am
by SDK
Exactly. So careful what you wish for !

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:35 pm
by Grahaml
Big Phil wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Centrals recruiting has been very underwhelming...

Compared to the Bays pick ups, EVERYONE'S recruiting has been underwhelming...

The Dogs are never going to be able to have a year when they get the likes of Nason and Sansbury back, though ;)


We've had many underwhelming recruits go on to become multiple premierships. Reputation won't earn you a kick, although it can earn a few extra MM votes.

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:01 am
by jim5112
Big Phil wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Centrals recruiting has been very underwhelming...

Compared to the Bays pick ups, EVERYONE'S recruiting has been underwhelming...

The Dogs are never going to be able to have a year when they get the likes of Nason and Sansbury back, though ;)


Do you mean Ben Nason -- the seconds player? All clubs get AFL rejects coming home. What are you talking about? What have you been smoking?

Glenelg are building from a VERY low base. They will do well to even be competitive and get off the bottom.

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:42 am
by dedja
Central will do well not to slip to the bottom, they're in disarray ....

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:14 am
by Jim05
dedja wrote:Central will do well not to slip to the bottom, they're in disarray ....

Id like to take money on that.
Wont finish bottom and have enough quality to still trouble sides but they wont be a contender and will probably miss finals

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:16 am
by dedja
Will miss the finals and be in that 6-10 irrelevant group and no concern to any contender ...

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:30 am
by Jim05
dedja wrote:Will miss the finals and be in that 6-10 irrelevant group and no concern to any contender ...

Sounds about right

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:46 pm
by StrayDog
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jim5112 wrote:
Big Phil wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Centrals recruiting has been very underwhelming...

Compared to the Bays pick ups, EVERYONE'S recruiting has been underwhelming...

The Dogs are never going to be able to have a year when they get the likes of Nason and Sansbury back, though ;)


Do you mean Ben Nason -- the seconds player? All clubs get AFL rejects coming home. What are you talking about? What have you been smoking?

Glenelg are building from a VERY low base. They will do well to even be competitive and get off the bottom.

I reckon Phil's post may not have been so much about the players as the poster he was responding to there jim. ;)

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:28 pm
by Pseudo
dedja wrote:Will miss the finals and be in that 6-10 irrelevant group and no concern to any contender ...

The irrelevant group has only two members, and Central is neither of them.

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:56 pm
by The Apostle
I couldn't care less if Centrals finished down near Glenelg next year......just as long Centrals gets rid of all the party boys (who'd rather be king of Red Square than be king of the centre or goal square), all players who are just trading on past glories and all the ones at the club who don't attend the "compulsory" weights training sessions...they are the ones who have infested the club for far too long!

As long as we replace those dead weights with players who are committed to the jumper and put in a honest decent effort every week then I'll be happy.

Re: Rumours and Player Movement Discussions for 2014

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:51 pm
by carey
dedja wrote:Will miss the finals and be in that 6-10 irrelevant group and no concern to any contender ...


You mean like Glenelg of the past 20 years?