Player MOVEMENTS and DISCUSSION for 2013

[Brodlach]

With Mitch Clisby being drafted from North Adelaide, will that now give the Roosters a bit more room to get Jay Nash from Central?

We are about to sign an ex AFL listed player as a replacement for Clisby. Despite some "fruitful" discussions some time back, Nash is not coming to Prospect.

What, you didnt sign this player before the drafts were over

[whufc]

The whole agreement signed between the Power, Magpies, SANFL and voted for by the other SANFL clubs was that you werent to use all your "FOOTBALL RESOURCES" between the two clubs. This is clearly in breach of that part of the agreement.

Perhaps you can provide a link to the agreement and the elements of it that have been breached - prior to any arrangement being set up of course.

Surely if Jurrah plays for the Magpies and his playing salary is under the cap there's no complaints with that component of it ?

Surely if the Power give him a community development role as stated and pay him for that, it would get audited to confirm he's being paid valid market rates for the role.... just like I'm sure the Centrals players that land in jobs at Tom Zorich SportsPower have their contracts audited to confirm they are getting paid valid rates in line with the hours they do.

Can you highlight the differences....

Oh timmie oh timmie

Do u need any more evidence of the 'agreement'

Again - if jurrahs salary is under cap and any role with power is paid at market rates whats your issue?

Does tom zorich employ players from west adelaide..... because in in article a couple posts up KT says where Slattery plays is an issue for him but he will be employed by port (regardless). You would imagine its the same for Jurrah.... or are you against the power employing footballers.

What are u not understanding?

The CDFC does not have a signed agreement with the SANFL stating we won't use Tom Zorichs resources to recruit players.

[TimmiesChin]

What are u not understanding?

The CDFC does not have a signed agreement with the SANFL stating we won't use Tom Zorichs resources to recruit players.

Rather than constantly dodging questions:

Again - if Jurrahs salary is under cap and any role with power is paid at market rates what's your issue?

Is there a signed agreement anywhere saying that the Power cannot employ a person that plays for the Magpies. Unless I'm mistaken that would be restraint of trade.

My point re Tom Zorich is the players he employs are far more restrictive than the ones the Power may choose to employ, when its already stated by our CEO that where Slattery plays is a separate issue to where he is employed (given he's already got the Power job).

[whufc]

What are u not understanding?

The CDFC does not have a signed agreement with the SANFL stating we won't use Tom Zorichs resources to recruit players.

Rather than constantly dodging questions:

Again - if Jurrahs salary is under cap and any role with power is paid at market rates what's your issue?

Is there a signed agreement anywhere saying that the Power cannot employ a person that plays for the Magpies. Unless I'm mistaken that would be restraint of trade.

My point re Tom Zorich is the players he employs are far more restrictive than the ones the Power may choose to employ, when its already stated by our CEO that where Slattery plays is a separate issue to where he is employed (given he's already got the Power job).

Yes it is in the agreement that the Magpies won't use the Powers resources (job availabilty is a resource) to sign players!

The reason the CEO is so angry is because he asked the exact question about players being hired by the power and playing for the Magpies, he was assured no such deals would go ahead, port have already gone back on this.

Do u expect ur CEO to come out in public and say anything different.

Take ur black and white glasses off, it is obvious to everyone including the SANFL CEO Port are enticing players to the Magpies using the lure of Jobs within the Power, yes this is outside of the agreement!

So u now believe there is an agreement in place?

Whether u like or agree with the agreement your management signed this and one club was voted in based on it

[TimmiesChin]

The reason the CEO is so angry is because he asked the exact question about players being hired by the power and playing for the Magpies, he was assured no such deals would go ahead, port have already gone back on this.

Which CEO is "so angry".

If this is the case, why is Keith Thomas indicating he's already spoken to SANFL GM Chris Davies about this and he's happy ?


From today's article:

Davies is understood to have been most concerned with the comments made by Richardson and McGregor.

"Chris Davies and I spoke about that during the week and we've responded and he's comfortable with it."

This issue of Slattery and where he plays doesn't seem to be a major issue with Chris Davies unless you are calling Keith Thomas and the Advertiser journo liars ? The issue seems more about shared coaching resources .....

And again - if Jurrahs salary is under cap and any role with power is paid at market rates what's your issue?

[whufc]

The reason the CEO is so angry is because he asked the exact question about players being hired by the power and playing for the Magpies, he was assured no such deals would go ahead, port have already gone back on this.

Which CEO is "so angry".

If this is the case, why is Keith Thomas indicating he's already spoken to SANFL GM Chris Davies about this and he's happy ?


From today's article:

Davies is understood to have been most concerned with the comments made by Richardson and McGregor.

"Chris Davies and I spoke about that during the week and we've responded and he's comfortable with it."

This issue of Slattery and where he plays doesn't seem to be a major issue with Chris Davies unless you are calling Keith Thomas and the Advertiser journo liars ? The issue seems more about shared coaching resources .....

And again - if Jurrahs salary is under cap and any role with power is paid at market rates what's your issue?

The issue with the Jurrah case is your club CEO told all the other CEO's that they would not be using jobs within the Power to entice players to the Magpies (regardless whether they are paying market value or not, you can spill the 'we didn't tell him where to play football bs all you like) this was the major concern which once assured it wouldn't happen swayed the voting.

Do u agree now that there is an agreement?

[whufc]

I couldn't care less who and what jobs the magpies and power give there players, but fact is there is an agreement and the one club vote gained support because they were assured these deals wouldn't happen.

I'm not worried or fussed about the magpies if Centrals are to win the 2013 GF we won't be playing the magpies.

But if I was a port magpie fan I would be very worried my club is being very sly and backhanded on an agreement when in the very near future they are going to need the other clubs support to survive

There is already a proposed meeting by CEO's to discuss there issues with the current deals.

[Macca19]

Yes it is in the agreement that the Magpies won't use the Powers resources (job availabilty is a resource) to sign players!

Feel free to post said agreement.

[TimmiesChin]

The issue with the Jurrah case is your club CEO told all the other CEO's that they would not be using jobs within the Power to entice players to the Magpies (regardless whether they are paying market value or not) this was the major concern which once assured it wouldn't happen swayed the voting.

Do u agree now that there is an agreement?

Yes there obviously is an agreement, however I - nor you have seen the specific content of it, so its a little difficult to speak to its content don't you think. If there was a point in it suggesting the Power couldn't employ players that play footy for the Power then we would have an issue, but it appears there wasn't - given the comments in the article about Chris Davies not having a problem with Slattery and him being employed by Power.

I suspect this is more a case of other SANFL clubs suddenly realising what is in the agreement doesn't cover the cases they are now seeing.... and are cracking the sads.

Anyway ... enjoy, it is what it is, I'm over it, I think you should do the same.

[whufc]

Yes it is in the agreement that the Magpies won't use the Powers resources (job availabilty is a resource) to sign players!

Feel free to post said agreement.

Have already been proven correct that an agreement exsists when questioned about there not being an agreement.

Will all come out in good time through other sources just like the exsistance of the agreement has done.

[TimmiesChin]

Yes it is in the agreement that the Magpies won't use the Powers resources (job availabilty is a resource) to sign players!

Feel free to post said agreement.

Have already been proven correct that an agreement exsists when questioned about there not being an agreement.

Will all come out in good time through other sources just like the exsistance of the agreement has done.

From the SANFL Website:

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/1390/

How it would work:

There will be two legal entities – the Port Adelaide Football Club and its SANFL division, the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club – which will be overseen by one common board with ultimate responsibility for both.
A Management Committee would be appointed to run the SANFL operation. One current Magpies board member would be appointed to the Port Adelaide Football Club board.
Neither club would have the right to appoint an SANFL League Director. Instead, a Magpies-appointed representative would attend League Directors’ meetings by invitation. The current Magpies CEO would participate in CEOs’ meetings as the Magpies Operations Manager.
The Operations Manager would be entitled to communicate a Club position in the same manner as all other SANFL Clubs for the purposes of decision-making by the SA Football Commission.
The Port Adelaide Football Club would only be permitted to allocate approximately $1.36 million per year to run the Magpies. The expense cap, to be audited, is commensurate with the average expenditure of other League clubs. It would be adjusted with changes to club grants and salary cap and reviewed annually and set by the Commission.
The Magpies would continue to wear the Magpies jumper, promote the Magpies brand and train on the western side of Alberton Oval.

Which of these bullet points is being broken ?

[NO-MERCY]

Here we go again with all the lala CEO's of other clubs shivering in their boots & worried about Port being a force once again.
I hope we can be a force & that 2013 is the start of a number of premierships.
All these CEO's should just stick to running their own clubs & keep the f... out of our business.

[CENTURION]

what's the point of having rules then? (that's if Port have broken the rules)

[whufc]

Here we go again with all the lala CEO's of other clubs shivering in their boots & worried about Port being a force once again.
I hope we can be a force & that 2013 is the start of a number of premierships.
All these CEO's should just stick to running their own clubs & keep the f... out of our business.

Use weren't asking the CEO's to stay out of your business when use were begging for them to vote yes to the one club merger!

[Big Phil]

Here we go again with all the lala CEO's of other clubs shivering in their boots & worried about Port being a force once again.
I hope we can be a force & that 2013 is the start of a number of premierships.
All these CEO's should just stick to running their own clubs & keep the f... out of our business.

If the SANFL got the zones right from the start, the CEO's wouldn't have to whinge about it...

I mean guys like Gavin Wanganeen and Scott Hodges should have played for the Doggies back in the day !!!

[NO-MERCY]

Yeah but Port payed the neccessary $$$ for a clearance for those players as they didn't want to play at Centrals.
I think back then it was $3,000

[Spargo]

All these CEO's should just stick to running their own clubs & keep the f... out of our business.

Short memory champ.

[Big Phil]

Yeah but Port payed the neccessary $$$ for a clearance for those players as they didn't want to play at Centrals.
I think back then it was $3,000

Why wouldn't they have wanted to play for a great club like Central?

[GWW]

Centrals were far from a great club in the 1980's.

[whufc]

Centrals were far from a great club in the 1980's.

But we had the best guernsey and club song in the league (even if we didnt get to sing it alot)