Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSION

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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby Booney » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:41 pm

mal wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
mal wrote:Dear Dutchy
Umpires do influence the results of games too often

Heres what Ive done the last 2 weeks

PA V EG
Backed PA V EG at Alberton last week
PA got many more decisions in their favor, but lost

EG V NA
This time I backed EG to beat NA
I am extremely fortunate to collect
The umpiring was in favor of EG
If there was a protest by NA I would have upheld it

Bad kicking for goal is bad football , NA did squander chances in the last qtr
Had they lost because of the bad kicking, they would have themselves to blame
But to lose to a decision like that when the game ended is unfair



So there you have it, I was on 2 teams on the punt in 2 weeks that got a ride

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IF you think umpires don't influence games of football you are dellusional



Dear Mal

you answered your own point, the highlighted paragraph above

if North had of kicked goals instead of missing then the last decision of the day wouldn't have influenced the result


Read each line you have highlighted
Stop
Think about each line b4 proceeding to the next line
If still unsure what I have posted you are a lucky man , its school holidays, just ask any 5 year old to read what Ive posted and explain it to you


3/4 time. Scores are level. North kick 1.5 to 2.1.

So they kicked poorly, especially in the last quarter, lost by 2 points but a third party is at fault? Even a QC wouldn't like his chances. ;)
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby mal » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:53 pm

1.5 to 1.1 was good enough to win until THAT decision
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:55 pm

mal wrote:1.5 to 1.1 was good enough to win until THAT decision



if they kicked 2 - 4

then it wouldn't have mattered
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby Spargo » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:00 pm

wedgetail wrote:Free kicks this year courtesy of Scott

PAM 23.9 for 18.8 against diff + 5.1 best in league
Eag 19.9 for 21.4 against diff - 1.5 (5th I think)
NA very close to Eags in 6th spot


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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby on the rails » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:01 pm

mal wrote:Heres an email from an extremely knowledgeable football scribe

Everyone who was close to the decision and watching from head on, both North and Torrens supporters , reckons that it was the worst decision they have ever seen.
They reckon that not only was Campbell hit around the head, but he got a handball away when tackled as well.
Browne, on 5RPH said that he definitely handballed when tackled.


It is done and dusted now but I spoke with 2 ex North players and 2 ex Eagles players after the match who were watching from the past players tent and they all said exactly the same thing!

People can go on about bad kicking for goal which both teams were guilty of but the fact is the match was decided by a shocking umpring decision!
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby mal » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:01 pm

And
IF
EG had scored 12-10 and not 10-12 it would not have mattered
NA had scored 20-0 it would not have mattered
The only thing that matters is that if you cop the wrong decision on the siren it does matter
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby am Bays » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:13 pm

Trent Plucktrum wrote:
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Dutchy wrote:Players make 10 times more mistakes in a game of footy than umpires.

Good sides dont let umpires get the opportunity to decide a game with one decision.

p it doesn't come into consideration if you follow the Gays getting within 100 points should be you're next concern


Amidst whatever punctuation you've attempted here, you still managed to spell gays with a capital G.
Still weighing up what is more comical, this last post or your earlier sooking it up posts about umpires :lol:

No problems enjoy your spoon numbnuts


At least we can kick 3-0 in a final quarter....
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:16 pm

waa waa waa
kick 1.5 in the last and blame the umpires... Take some bloody responsibity for god sakes, sound like a bunch of crow supporters :lol:
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby Dutchy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:21 pm

mal wrote:Browne, on 5RPH said that he definitely handballed when tackled.


Oh dear, if you are relying on DB then there is a good chance he threw it then!
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby once_were_warriors » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:23 pm

on the rails wrote:
mal wrote:Heres an email from an extremely knowledgeable football scribe

Everyone who was close to the decision and watching from head on, both North and Torrens supporters , reckons that it was the worst decision they have ever seen.
They reckon that not only was Campbell hit around the head, but he got a handball away when tackled as well.
Browne, on 5RPH said that he definitely handballed when tackled.


It is done and dusted now but I spoke with 2 ex North players and 2 ex Eagles players after the match who were watching from the past players tent and they all said exactly the same thing!

People can go on about bad kicking for goal which both teams were guilty of but the fact is the match was decided by a shocking umpring decision!



Hayden thought the tackle was text book perfect.
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby Zorro » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:26 pm

wristwatcher wrote:Spoke to a player who was within metres of the contest and he said it was gornski. Thats good enough for me. Argument over.....or is it ;)


Maybe that player had the same view as the delusional umpire from behind the play, rather than from the scoreboard side where even the Eagles supporters around us couldn't believe what happened after the whistle blew.
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby JK » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:28 pm

Dutchy wrote:
mal wrote:Browne, on 5RPH said that he definitely handballed when tackled.


Oh dear, if you are relying on DB then there is a good chance he threw it then!


DB probably thought it was James Craig that got pinged ..
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby on the rails » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:28 pm

once_were_warriors wrote: Hayden thought the tackle was text book perfect.


Skipworth commenting on a tackle on Campbell! That would be credible! :roll:
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby Booney » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:30 pm

Does the "Recovery Session" have the footage?
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby once_were_warriors » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:37 pm

Zorro wrote:
wristwatcher wrote:Spoke to a player who was within metres of the contest and he said it was gornski. Thats good enough for me. Argument over.....or is it ;)


Maybe that player had the same view as the delusional umpire from behind the play, rather than from the scoreboard side where even the Eagles supporters around us couldn't believe what happened after the whistle blew.



I couldn't believe it either , thought the two north fatties running down to the fence were going to have a heart attack and damage the sponsorship signs.
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby Punk Rooster » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:39 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:waa waa waa
kick 1.5 in the last and blame the umpires... Take some bloody responsibity for god sakes, sound like a bunch of crow supporters :lol:

Most North supporters have said this- it's other club supporters...
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby Ian » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:46 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
mal wrote:Dear Dutchy
Umpires do influence the results of games too often

Heres what Ive done the last 2 weeks

PA V EG
Backed PA V EG at Alberton last week
PA got many more decisions in their favor, but lost

EG V NA
This time I backed EG to beat NA
I am extremely fortunate to collect
The umpiring was in favor of EG
If there was a protest by NA I would have upheld it

Bad kicking for goal is bad football , NA did squander chances in the last qtr
Had they lost because of the bad kicking, they would have themselves to blame
But to lose to a decision like that when the game ended is unfair



So there you have it, I was on 2 teams on the punt in 2 weeks that got a ride

Mr Dutchy
IF you think umpires don't influence games of football you are dellusional



Dear Mal

you answered your own point, the highlighted paragraph above

if North had of kicked goals instead of missing then the last decision of the day wouldn't have influenced the result


True, and for being in that position, North only have themselves to blame, however.......

North were in that position and desperately trying to hang on for a win, if no decision was paid (or one the other way) North would have won, therefore,

The umpire's decision DID change the outcome of the game, Mal is correct as are the dozens of other people that saw the high tackle and saw the correct disposal, contrary to what I always believed, an umpire can change the result of the game.

It would have been a bad decision at any time of the game, anywhere on the field to any side, but where & when it was paid makes it a whole lot worse, I've slept on this and gone for a 4 hour push bike ride to post with a clear head, nothing can change the fact that that was one of the most disgraceful decisions I've ever seen and yes, North were robbed!!
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby on the rails » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:48 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:waa waa waa
kick 1.5 in the last and blame the umpires... Take some bloody responsibity for god sakes, sound like a bunch of crow supporters :lol:


If that same decision had gone against your team I wonder if you would say nothing and cop it sweet.

I have no issue with the poor kicking etc. andf we were our own worst enemy there and so were the Eagles earlier in the game but the issue that cost us was a clealry wrong umpiring call. What bit of that don't you get?
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby on the rails » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:49 pm

once_were_warriors wrote:
Zorro wrote:
wristwatcher wrote:Spoke to a player who was within metres of the contest and he said it was gornski. Thats good enough for me. Argument over.....or is it ;)


Maybe that player had the same view as the delusional umpire from behind the play, rather than from the scoreboard side where even the Eagles supporters around us couldn't believe what happened after the whistle blew.



I couldn't believe it either , thought the two north fatties running down to the fence were going to have a heart attack and damage the sponsorship signs.


The Eagles Cheer Squad were dressed in red and white were they? :shock:
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Re: Round 14 - Eagles v North Adelaide - POST MATCH DISCUSSI

Postby Ian » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:51 pm

on the rails wrote:
I have no issue with the poor kicking etc. andf we were our own worst enemy there and so were the Eagles earlier in the game but the issue that cost us was a clealry wrong umpiring call. What bit of that don't you get?
either they're all in denial or just plain thick, the look on the Eagles supporters faces in front of us when the free was paid said it all
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