Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby CENTURION » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:55 am

also, port cheersquad at elizabeth 2 years? ago, wwt supporter at woodville about 3 years ago, there are many more, have amounted to not much YET. Simple, if the goons hang out with the cheersquad, put 2 or 3 cops behind said cheersquad for the entireity of the match. The cops used to follow Us from end to end for YEARS & I must have been ejected from various grounds in total about 10 times, lots of times for minor stuff, non-threatening, but the presence of the police & their perceived intent was enough to stop a lot of stuff happening & they showed their intentions by chucking anyone out for sometimes the smallest of things.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby bulldogproud2 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:01 am

Still, all the incidents together that have happened over recent years would only equal ten games of any season at Colliingwood. Why does the SANFL have to cop bad news every time we have ONE incident? They don't apply the blowtorch like that to AFL crowds.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby CENTURION » Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:04 am

bulldogproud2 wrote:Still, all the incidents together that have happened over recent years would only equal ten games of any season at Colliingwood. Why does the SANFL have to cop bad news every time we have ONE incident? They don't apply the blowtorch like that to AFL crowds.
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because that is news in Dullsville, which can be a good thing, if that's all there is to report on.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Macca19 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:22 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:Generally, since the Crows entered the AFL, I've been happy with crowd behaviour, and my theory was that only genuine lovers of SANFL footy were attending games, and all the wankers gravitated to the AFL.


Id agree with that. Ive been to around maybe 350+ SANFL games in my 28 years of life and I reckon ive seen crowd violence on maybe 3 occasions.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:26 am

bulldogproud2 wrote:Still, all the incidents together that have happened over recent years would only equal ten games of any season at Colliingwood.


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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Squawk » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:17 am

bulldogproud2 wrote:Still, all the incidents together that have happened over recent years would only equal ten games of any season at Colliingwood. Why does the SANFL have to cop bad news every time we have ONE incident? They don't apply the blowtorch like that to AFL crowds.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby LPH » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:19 am

I would be DEAD AGAINST positioning coppers around Cheer Squads... although I think this is what will now happen now.

Sadly, it appears that 'hangers on' are to blame here - as well as a player.

As a former member of the West Torrens CS (many moons ago I might add), it was 'patches' that identified members & in all honesty, respect was generally given between opposing clubs (although I do remember late 70's early 80's conflicts between the bigger CSs) - even so much as combining in Finals games

I am disappointed to hear that someone who appears as a GENIUNE CS leader (Voice) is gaining grief as a result of some 'twats' not actually MEMBERS of the CS - Is it a case of the 'English Football Firm' mentality (Milwall, Man City, Chelscum), lad culture of beer & brawling?

Sturt's floggers & flags @ grounds makes for GREAT colour :D - would be sad to see it end.

Perhaps an IDENTFIABLE 'patch' or 'lanyard' may be the answer here... if for no other reason than to stop the media diatribe & misinformation being bandied about (we just know that 'the wrinkly one' will be at it tonight) against Cheer Squads.

I think the MOST DISTURBING aspect of this incident (& I wasn't there, so I didn't SEE it) is that one of OUR players has allowed himself to get involved in crowd violence - the WWTFC must act, this can NOT be 'swept under the carpet'. :(
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Voice » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:31 am

You may have some good points the LEH. A lanyard that would be handed out at the start (only because if they were handed out permanantly people would lose/forget them) of games it could be helpful for identification purposes.
Problem this time is that it wasn't all hangers on, cheersquad members were also involved. I received a short one to the nose while trying to break it up. For all I know, it could have been one of our own that collected me.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Wedgie » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:34 am

Has the SANFL considered a biffo friendly area?
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby locky801 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:35 am

LEH, i can pretty well say you wont have cops gathering around cheer squads, Finals apart, Police do not patrol games these days unless, they are called in for an incident or as a specific request from a club. You may well now see more Weslo securitry at grounds standing in close proximity but doubt it would go any further than that
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby MagareyLegend » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:36 am

Yeah look I happened to be there in the past players' marquee and it (said player being allegedly chased, caught and hit) occurred directly in front of the past players - who were horrified.

It was not as good look.

Coincidentally SANFL President and SA Football Commission Chairman Rod Payze had been there right on the spot with his family but left moments before.

Other SANFL dignitaries were, or had been, in the vicinity.

The atmosphere behind the northern goals had been tense all day, to say the least, and appeared ready to ignite at any stage which it ultimately did.

What needed to happen was for the police to be called in at a much earlier stage because it was evident very early on in the game that ground security were unable to control the trouble that was brewing.

This was one of many ‘hot-spots’ throughout the afternoon.

I have no doubt there will be major ramifications from this.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby LPH » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:37 am

Wedgie wrote:Has the SANFL considered a biffo friendly area?


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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby CENTURION » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:38 am

Next time something occurs, stick a lit flare up the ass of the offender(s), so as to easily identify them.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby sjt » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:44 am

Macca19 wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Generally, since the Crows entered the AFL, I've been happy with crowd behaviour, and my theory was that only genuine lovers of SANFL footy were attending games, and all the wankers gravitated to the AFL.


Id agree with that. Ive been to around maybe 350+ SANFL games in my 28 years of life and I reckon ive seen crowd violence on maybe 3 occasions.


Ditto. Once about thirty years ago. Another when the guy got ejected at the end of last years GF (via the oval). The third was at a state game, some moron SA supporters attacked a couple of Victorian supporters (for no reason).
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Voice » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:05 pm

MagareyLegend wrote:Yeah look I happened to be there in the past players' marquee and it (said player being allegedly chased, caught and hit) occurred directly in front of the past players - who were horrified.

It was not as good look.

Coincidentally SANFL President and SA Football Commission Chairman Rod Payze had been there right on the spot with his family but left moments before.

Other SANFL dignitaries were, or had been, in the vicinity.

The atmosphere behind the northern goals had been tense all day, to say the least, and appeared ready to ignite at any stage which it ultimately did.

What needed to happen was for the police to be called in at a much earlier stage because it was evident very early on in the game that ground security were unable to control the trouble that was brewing.

This was one of many ‘hot-spots’ throughout the afternoon.

I have no doubt there will be major ramifications from this.

The player wasn't caught, he stopped running once he realised some Eagles fans were going to back him up and started mouthing off again.
The mis-information going on with this is getting ridiculous
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Pseudo » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:17 pm

Voice wrote:A lanyard that would be handed out at the start (only because if they were handed out permanantly people would lose/forget them) of games it could be helpful for identification purposes.

A lanyard would be a good makeshift garotte in a brawl, too :lol:
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Voice » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:19 pm

Surely it makes sense if the people who didn't witness the WHOLE incident stop commenting on it as if they did. It's only inflaming a situation that can quickly be fixed.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby sjt » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:31 pm

Voice wrote:Surely it makes sense if the people who didn't witness the WHOLE incident stop commenting on it as if they did. It's only inflaming a situation that can quickly be fixed.


So what happenend ? You said (page 1), you'd be able to provide the detail from your perspective (moderators permitting).
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Voice » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:39 pm

sjt wrote:
Voice wrote:Surely it makes sense if the people who didn't witness the WHOLE incident stop commenting on it as if they did. It's only inflaming a situation that can quickly be fixed.


So what happenend ? You said (page 1), you'd be able to provide the detail from your perspective (moderatoes permitting).

I've been flat out and while i'm at work, posting a long message from my phone is impossible.
I'll try and get on a work computer in a minute and get the story out there.
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Re: Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

Postby Booney » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:47 pm

I think there is enough of the story out there already for people to ascertain what happened and barely see the point of any further debate on the matter as it really should just be left for the authorities to take action on and the people involved to take a good look at themselves and the way they acted. Be them in the right or the wrong all parties created an ugly incident and further discussion will only lead, IMO, to more frustration for all parties.

Go on if you want to, but I dont see the point.
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