Adelaide Oval plan

[Barto]

However I don't think shield cricket will return to AO, it will be a larger event stadium catering for larger crowds with an alternate venue for small crowds, such as Glenelg will possibly become in the near future.

There is no reason a reduced capacity Footy Park can't be used for all sorts of other events such as the Sheild games and any other sporting events currently at Adelaide Oval, so there shouldn't be any conflict between the SACA and SANFL.

Its got the second best surface in the state and the SACA, same as the SANFL would not want the embarressment of the 3,000 crowd at a 50,000 seat Adelaide Oval The only cricket games that must be played at Adelaide Oval are the Test matches and the international one day games.

Also is there any mention of the shape of the ground. Adelaide Oval has always been said to be narrow and has a straight boundary down the members side. The artist impression shows a nice oval shape that doesn't currently exist.

As they say the new stands they are building will be staying has any mention been of the ground shape.

Will it be the narrowest ground used by the AFL

I'm not sure where you've been hiding but the current state of the ground is part of that process.

OVALISATION

Adelaide Oval is a long narrow ground with deep pockets (when thinking in Australian football terms) and a shape resembling a capital D. This is due largely to the cycling track that graced the Oval more than 100 years ago. In those days the track was on the edge of the grass and the picket fence separated spectators from the riders.

The straight boundary was the finishing straight which ran in front of the vice-regal enclosure located at the top of the wrought iron stairs in the George Giffen Stand. Cycling ceased in 1910 and the picket fence was transferred to the edge of the grass at that time. The Oval’s short square boundaries and deep pockets will be reshaped as part of the new design.

http://www.saca.com.au/content.aspx?p=396

[Zathrus]

I'm not sure where you've been hiding but the current state of the ground is part of that process.

OVALISATION

Adelaide Oval is a long narrow ground with deep pockets (when thinking in Australian football terms) and a shape resembling a capital D. This is due largely to the cycling track that graced the Oval more than 100 years ago. In those days the track was on the edge of the grass and the picket fence separated spectators from the riders.

The straight boundary was the finishing straight which ran in front of the vice-regal enclosure located at the top of the wrought iron stairs in the George Giffen Stand. Cycling ceased in 1910 and the picket fence was transferred to the edge of the grass at that time. The Oval’s short square boundaries and deep pockets will be reshaped as part of the new design.

http://www.saca.com.au/content.aspx?p=396

umm.. haven't been hiding but must admit I hadn't seen that...

but then I'm can't say I've ever been onto the SACA website. I don't remember it being mentioned recently in the media although it would have been when the plans for the new stands were announced way back when. It is only when the new deal was announced that I took an interest.

Thanks for that. Should be excellent.

[FlyingHigh]

Why not build the 50-60000 under-cover stadium like the libs suggest, keep Adelaide as a 35000 boutique oval (just like the AFL should have retained Princess Park) where both Adelaide and Port can play, say, 3 games a year against the lower-drawing clubs? And the current charm of Adelaide Oval can be maintained.
Cricket can be played early in the season at the new stadium, plus the other sports mentioned.
The proposed Stadium Management Authority would oversee both.
Unfortunately this would mean the end of Footy Park, but I can't really see the use in keeping it to play SANFL games for 2-3000 people all the way down there even if the capacity is reduced, especially if the GF isn't going to be played there and THebby, Richmond and the Bay all get good lights.

[stampy]

i cant believe all the wank that has been posted on this thread,fair dinkum some of you clowns are unbelievable! GET A LIFE, AND/OR A JOB! some of you have way too much time to think up too much BS! so it is close to an election, thats what political parties do DER!!! lets embrace the project, it is something this state sorely needs FFS!

[MightyEagles]

I like the plan for Adelaide Oval, still has grass for those who like to stand at the footy. Footy is meant to be a winter sport and fans have been watching it in rain for over a century and cricket is a summer sport. Both sports are not meant to be played under a roof. Just because Melbourne has one doesn't mean we have to. If we wanted one, why wasn't it built when SANFL left Adelaide. Can anyone show me the closed roof football staduim in Sydney, Brisbane, Perth or Hobart - there isn't one. How about the football staduims in England?

[Dutchy]

I'm not sure where you've been hiding but the current state of the ground is part of that process.

OVALISATION

Adelaide Oval is a long narrow ground with deep pockets (when thinking in Australian football terms) and a shape resembling a capital D. This is due largely to the cycling track that graced the Oval more than 100 years ago. In those days the track was on the edge of the grass and the picket fence separated spectators from the riders.

The straight boundary was the finishing straight which ran in front of the vice-regal enclosure located at the top of the wrought iron stairs in the George Giffen Stand. Cycling ceased in 1910 and the picket fence was transferred to the edge of the grass at that time. The Oval’s short square boundaries and deep pockets will be reshaped as part of the new design.

http://www.saca.com.au/content.aspx?p=396

umm.. haven't been hiding but must admit I hadn't seen that...

but then I'm can't say I've ever been onto the SACA website. I don't remember it being mentioned recently in the media although it would have been when the plans for the new stands were announced way back when. It is only when the new deal was announced that I took an interest.

Thanks for that. Should be excellent.

The ground has already be reconfigured into an Oval as part of the Western Stand reno

[gossipgirl]

Well here is a completely unbiased viewpoint, but it does explain the sudden change of policy..
http://www.saliberal.org.au/index.php/h ... ader-again

LOL, from someone who has never been to Footy Park or has embraced or gained approval from the key stakeholders as the SACA, SANFL or AFL.

Neither proposal will be a reality ... it's all vapourware.

What she is saying is true though

This State Govt is bereft of both ideas and credibility - Thank you Pyne, Chapman, Evans & Co - you have lumped us with 4 more years of this crud

One has to question why the Liberals released their city plan so early - they should have stalled it til the election campaign when these idiots couldnt copy it

its like watching dumb and dumber

[gossipgirl]

i cant believe all the wank that has been posted on this thread,fair dinkum some of you clowns are unbelievable! GET A LIFE, AND/OR A JOB! some of you have way too much time to think up too much BS! so it is close to an election, thats what political parties do DER!!! lets embrace the project, it is something this state sorely needs FFS!

at last someone with an intelligent comment. unfortunately people are just so brainwashed whether they are liberal or labour supporters.

[doggies4eva]

i cant believe all the wank that has been posted on this thread,fair dinkum some of you clowns are unbelievable! GET A LIFE, AND/OR A JOB! some of you have way too much time to think up too much BS! so it is close to an election, thats what political parties do DER!!! lets embrace the project, it is something this state sorely needs FFS!

at last someone with an intelligent comment. unfortunately people are just so brainwashed whether they are liberal or labour supporters.

Maybe someone could explain why this is sorely needed? How many deaths will be avoided or peoples lives improved with this project?

[Psyber]

I don't think we need either of these projects, but I would prefer the Adelaide oval not be butchered.
Therefore, of the two, I'd choose the Libs proposal for the new oval adjacent to the relocated railway terminal and bus services.
Its being to the western edge of the CBD rather than at Adelaide Oval would make for less disruptive traffic flow, too, I think.

[theEMBRYO]

As long as it does'nt stuff the saca members around. The perfect blue-print is how the mcc work w the afl; of course there are always going to be teething problems but on a whole it is done well.

[Reddeer]

It is never going to happen so get over it

[jim5112]

Why not build the 50-60000 under-cover stadium like the libs suggest, keep Adelaide as a 35000 boutique oval (just like the AFL should have retained Princess Park) where both Adelaide and Port can play, say, 3 games a year against the lower-drawing clubs? And the current charm of Adelaide Oval can be maintained.
Cricket can be played early in the season at the new stadium, plus the other sports mentioned.
The proposed Stadium Management Authority would oversee both.
Unfortunately this would mean the end of Footy Park, but I can't really see the use in keeping it to play SANFL games for 2-3000 people all the way down there even if the capacity is reduced, especially if the GF isn't going to be played there and THebby, Richmond and the Bay all get good lights.

Why not? Because none of the stakeholders want it. They have all signed off on a plan to share Adelaide Oval.
Adelaide Oval is close to public transport, within walking distance of the CBD and has ample parking facilities nearby. It has proven to be an excellent venue for many sports.

We are the driest state capital, so we don't need to waste our money on a roof for sport.

The only games played at the proposed undercover stadium would be White Elephant Polo.
The SA Liberal Party could sacrifice their failed leaders at the proposed stadium for public entertainment, but nobody knows who they are any more, so there would be little interest anyway.

[Ian]

Can anyone show me the closed roof football staduim in Sydney, Brisbane, Perth or Hobart - there isn't one. How about the football staduims in England?

[ca]

As long as it does'nt stuff the saca members around. The perfect blue-print is how the mcc work w the afl; of course there are always going to be teething problems but on a whole it is done well.

I'm a member of the SACA and AAMI. Unfortunatly by the sounds of things the SACA are not going to be in a position to bargain for much for it's members.

[smac]

But SACA are prepared to walk away on that point. If the SANFL don't concede something for SACA members the deal will fall through - I guess it will show how dinkum SANFL are to get this through as to how much of a concession they make to SACA.

[Psyber]

Why not? Because none of the stakeholders want it. They have all signed off on a plan to share Adelaide Oval.

They have all agreed "in principle" only, and under pressure from the SA government and other interested parties with influence, like the AFL and Telstra/Foxtel.
They can walk away any time.
Personally I'm not sure we need either, but I don't want Adelaide Oval mucked up, or access to North Adelaide made difficult.
That's why I'd lean to the western end of the city option - I hardly ever go there.

[Jimmy_041]

Why not build the 50-60000 under-cover stadium like the libs suggest, keep Adelaide as a 35000 boutique oval (just like the AFL should have retained Princess Park) where both Adelaide and Port can play, say, 3 games a year against the lower-drawing clubs? And the current charm of Adelaide Oval can be maintained.
Cricket can be played early in the season at the new stadium, plus the other sports mentioned.
The proposed Stadium Management Authority would oversee both.
Unfortunately this would mean the end of Footy Park, but I can't really see the use in keeping it to play SANFL games for 2-3000 people all the way down there even if the capacity is reduced, especially if the GF isn't going to be played there and THebby, Richmond and the Bay all get good lights.

Why not? Because none of the stakeholders want it. They have all signed off on a plan to share Adelaide Oval.
Adelaide Oval is close to public transport, within walking distance of the CBD and has ample parking facilities nearby. It has proven to be an excellent venue for many sports.

We are the driest state capital, so we don't need to waste our money on a roof for sport.

The only games played at the proposed undercover stadium would be White Elephant Polo.
The SA Liberal Party could sacrifice their failed leaders at the proposed stadium for public entertainment, but nobody knows who they are any more, so there would be little interest anyway.

Not yet mate and I speak from the inside!!!

[smac]

You hardly need to be on the inside to quote a press release!

[am Bays]

As a SACA member, if the redevelopment goes ahead, all I want is the same access for what I pay for now (inflation not withstanding). Couldn't give a rats clacker about the AFL or the recreational pursuit we probably wont get in 2022 (definately wont get it 2018). I think SACA members are kidding themselves if they can get more without having to pay for it.

smaccer are you aware if the redevelopment goes ahead their will be a membership category that is cricket and SANFL only (provided SANFL games stay there) as per the staus quo?