RD 22 Central v Sturt Match Review

[CK]

Just a general comment with no reflection on any particular club or supporter group whatsoever (this is NOT being said in this thread for any other reason then to avoid starting a new thread about it, but noting an incident from last night's game as a trigger for it) - if supporters are continually allowed to mix as freely and closely with opposition players as they are leaving the field, as they are now, one of these days, the wrong supporter will do the wrong thing to the wrong player and it will get ugly. There is plenty of place for supporters who want to congratulate their players etc, but supporters waving flags in the faces of opposition players, going up and saying things in their faces as they are leaving the ground, launching tirades on them at close range, cannot be healthy interaction.

Just a general observation from a number of games this year where a number of incidents of varying degrees have occurred with varying reactions from players and in the case of one match this year when a scarf was thrown at the coach, coaching staff.

[dedja]

Just a general comment with no reflection on any particular club or supporter group whatsoever (this is NOT being said in this thread for any other reason then to avoid starting a new thread about it, but noting an incident from last night's game as a trigger for it) - if supporters are continually allowed to mix as freely and closely with opposition players as they are leaving the field, as they are now, one of these days, the wrong supporter will do the wrong thing to the wrong player and it will get ugly. There is plenty of place for supporters who want to congratulate their players etc, but supporters waving flags in the faces of opposition players, going up and saying things in their faces as they are leaving the ground, launching tirades on them at close range, cannot be healthy interaction.

Just a general observation from a number of games this year where a number of incidents of varying degrees have occurred with varying reactions from players and in the case of one match this year when a scarf was thrown at the coach, coaching staff.

Very good point. When the issue of security for players leaving the field was highlighted recently, the orginator of that thread was derided and ridiculed by some, even though they had some very valid points.

Please note that I was not at last nights match so similar to CK, my comments are from a general point of view.

No need to get hysterical about the issue, but players and officials should be afforded the protection they deserve and supporters should behave accordingly, which can be difficult when we promote the unique ability in the SANFL for supporters to get up close to the players.

Unfortunately it's always a very small minority that seems to spoil it for the rest of us.

[CENTURION]

well done 'Dogs, but..........my head hurts.

[bloods08]

Just a general comment with no reflection on any particular club or supporter group whatsoever (this is NOT being said in this thread for any other reason then to avoid starting a new thread about it, but noting an incident from last night's game as a trigger for it) - if supporters are continually allowed to mix as freely and closely with opposition players as they are leaving the field, as they are now, one of these days, the wrong supporter will do the wrong thing to the wrong player and it will get ugly. There is plenty of place for supporters who want to congratulate their players etc, but supporters waving flags in the faces of opposition players, going up and saying things in their faces as they are leaving the ground, launching tirades on them at close range, cannot be healthy interaction.

Just a general observation from a number of games this year where a number of incidents of varying degrees have occurred with varying reactions from players and in the case of one match this year when a scarf was thrown at the coach, coaching staff.

Couldnt agree more.

[CENTURION]

Fantastic to se Quinno back at The club last night! Also, good stuff by the 2 $turd ( ) supporters to stay in the club drinking with Us until closing, good blokes! One looked like mountain jack, short, long hair, long red beard, good on the pair of you! Wasn't Cutterman or Chambo by any chance?!

[sjt]

well done 'Dogs, but..........my head hurts.

Bundy will do that to you....Wilson

[CENTURION]

was I drinking Bundy?

[CUTTERMAN]

Fantastic to se Quinno back at The club last night! Also, good stuff by the 2 $turd ( ) supporters to stay in the club drinking with Us until closing, good blokes! One looked like mountain jack, short, long hair, long red beard, good on the pair of you! Wasn't Cutterman or Chambo by any chance?!

No Centurion, wasn't me, I was out drinking elsewhere.

[bayman]

Too good doggies. Once again the Blues struggle at the business end. Suddenly next week against Port becomes a concern

no concern next week because your playing an out of form team with not much accountability, after that maybe a concern though

[csbowes]

Too good doggies. Once again the Blues struggle at the business end. Suddenly next week against Port becomes a concern

no concern next week because your playing an out of form team with not much accountability, after that maybe a concern though

Still think people are being too pessimistic... the number of teams that have gone into the finals having lost a couple of games against the top sides and still gone on to perform well or win the flag are numerous... Sturt can match Central and anyone who thinks that game is much more than 50-50 is probably deluding themselves. Central v Sturt finals have been few and far between, but generally pretty tight affairs. Plus there's been countless times minor premiers and other teams in full flight have gone out in straight sets.

Sturt has thrown away seasons like that before, Glenelg threw away their flag last year. I stick to my assessment from weeks and weeks ago, I reckon Glenelg, Central and Sturt are the likely Grand Finalists. No disrespect meant to Torrens or North Adelaide, but you'd have to expect that whoever moves on from the Elimination Final will likely be knocked out easily a la Norwood'08. That said, I have no urge to fall into that game, as I'd rather not play Torrens in a final.

My hope is we send Central into that game... as Torrens might be able to do everyone a favour!

NOTE: I am worried about Glenelg though!

[zipzap]

As for Mackenzie, I gotta say, I love having a go at that guy, but truth be told, the man has a heart like Phar Lap, he whips players who should have a massive cardiovascular advantage over him. For me, he epitomises what Central are about and that's non-stop effort and a determination to put one over the loud mouthed opposition supporters and the teams they support. I can't accurately adjudicate on his effort tonight, since I was mainly watching our guys, but I can probably safely say he's going to be a pivotal player come finals time, he did us over well and good in last years QF.

Gotta agree with that, Buckets is a champion

[whufc]

Central were good without being great and hopefully this win puts a bit of doubt in Sturts mind.

Went to toilets near grand central before the game and could hear Luke Normans' pre game speech, he was very vocal and on many occasions reffered to the game as "this is our challenge", "this here is our challenge". He seemed very 'up' for the game and was impressive with the way he spoke and his passion.

Another observation (and im not saying sturt can't beat Central come finals) but i thought there decision making by foot on the bigger oval and under pressure was brought into question. I think a few of their players have got into the luxury of Unley Oval where they are able to bomb it long to Chambers whenever in doubt in the midfield. On the bigger ovals such as Elizabeth this option doesn't work as well and requires a very high level of foot skills.

Anyway thats just my observation.

[bluegirl2002]

I think a few of their players have got into the luxury of Unley Oval where they are able to bomb it long to Chambers whenever in doubt in the midfield. On the bigger ovals such as Elizabeth this option doesn't work as well and requires a very high level of foot skills.

Anyway thats just my observation.[/quote]


Just interested whufc-how many games have you seen Sturt play at Unley Oval? Chambers kicked 11 at Woodville-hardly a small ground and about the same dimensions as Elizabeth.
Bombing long is not an option for the Sturt players,although going the long way around the flanks does seem to be - usually ending with a shot from the pocket.

[spell_check]

Just a general comment with no reflection on any particular club or supporter group whatsoever (this is NOT being said in this thread for any other reason then to avoid starting a new thread about it, but noting an incident from last night's game as a trigger for it) - if supporters are continually allowed to mix as freely and closely with opposition players as they are leaving the field, as they are now, one of these days, the wrong supporter will do the wrong thing to the wrong player and it will get ugly. There is plenty of place for supporters who want to congratulate their players etc, but supporters waving flags in the faces of opposition players, going up and saying things in their faces as they are leaving the ground, launching tirades on them at close range, cannot be healthy interaction.

Just a general observation from a number of games this year where a number of incidents of varying degrees have occurred with varying reactions from players and in the case of one match this year when a scarf was thrown at the coach, coaching staff.

Very good point. When the issue of security for players leaving the field was highlighted recently, the orginator of that thread was derided and ridiculed by some, even though they had some very valid points.

Yes, well that was because it was more of a sidetrack to defend that club rather than point out something which could really be a big negative to the League.

And it doesn't matter which clubs' fans it involves, nor the venue, because the brown stuff will be everywhere. Particularly when you have someone like Jesper Fjelstad calling the shots to the uneducated masses, the slightest issue will be made into a mountain. And if it was something serious like a player being knocked out or a player hitting a spectator, that mountain would be bigger than Mount Everest. It is only a matter of time before it happens.

[mal]

Didnt see the game, so would be interested on some viewpoints
Remarkable turnaround ST massacred CD last time thay played

ST 8-7
CD 5-7
3rd Qtr
What happened after that ?
Was there a turning point ?

QUESTION
If ST were good enough to be 3 goals up in an unsuitable night game at Elizabeth, are they good enough to beat CD in a final ?

Given a bright sunny day at AAMI are they a match for CD ?

[Jimmy]

Didnt see the game, so would be interested on some viewpoints
Remarkable turnaround ST massacred CD last time thay played

ST 8-7
CD 5-7
3rd Qtr
What happened after that ?
Was there a turning point ?

QUESTION
If ST were good enough to be 3 goals up in an unsuitable night game at Elizabeth, are they good enough to beat CD in a final ?

Given a bright sunny day at AAMI are they a match for CD ?

sturt missed a crucial goal to go further ahead which allowed the dogs to get some momentum...not sure if this was really the turning point but after that, it was all dogs

i think yes, but things need to change, skills need to be cleaner and we have to manage their flood better.

we are a match for CD I believe

[Grahaml]

I didn't think there was so much a turning point, as the dogs changed their focus. Free kicks stopped being given away, and we worked much harder to get to the ball first. Things tend to flow on in the end if you do that. Perhaps also the fact the boys knew buckets was working hard and would have to all game made them regain their focus. Plenty of dogs sides in the past wouldn't have lifted for a team-mate, but this new era side will do it every time.

But despite my thinking the dogs are just a cut above Sturt, let's not get too silly. It was a nice 3 goal win for the dogs, not a thrashing. But Sturt will have walked away knowing that they needed something more, and knowing they'll need more again come finals time. What that might be and whether they can do it I don't know. The obvious thing is another forward option. Crane might be a good goalkicking player but that lineup is bereft of options. Strange how talk of 2002 keeps coming up (yes, I'm doing it as much as anyone else) but the sides from 2002, coaches included, are remarkably different. But one thing about that 2002 Sturt side was the forward options. Chambers was there (a far cry from the player he is now mind you) but there were also another couple of decent players there in White and Burton IIRC. Can Johncock or Herring be that option to kick 3 or 4 goals in a grand final? Bearing in mind a grand final is a scene where the classic full forward tends to be less effective for some reason. Hard to think of a recent premiership side without more than one potent forward.

Not writing Sturt off (any side finishing in the top 3 is a big show in this comp) but I just think that's been an issue for a few seasons that's just held them back when it matters.

[whufc]

Another thing i have noticed in Central vs Sturt games is that both teams struggle to play 4 consistent quarters against each other. Apart from the games at Unley where Sturt have smashed us the games seem to run is spits and spurts, where one team goes on a roll and then stops dead while the other kicks numerous goals.

[phantom57]

When all is said and done the result is one all ......there are bigger challenges , and rewards ahead !

[SnappyTom]

Didnt see the game, so would be interested on some viewpoints
Remarkable turnaround ST massacred CD last time thay played

ST 8-7
CD 5-7
3rd Qtr
What happened after that ?
Was there a turning point ?

QUESTION
If ST were good enough to be 3 goals up in an unsuitable night game at Elizabeth, are they good enough to beat CD in a final ?

Given a bright sunny day at AAMI are they a match for CD ?

sturt missed a crucial goal to go further ahead which allowed the dogs to get some momentum...not sure if this was really the turning point but after that, it was all dogs

i think yes, but things need to change, skills need to be cleaner and we have to manage their flood better.

we are a match for CD I believe

R17: Re: Glenelg vs Centrals Review
looking at the scores, it lookes like the dogs choked!!!

what a cracker of a game!

looking at the scores, it lookes like Sturt choked!!!

what a cracker of a game!