Rnd 6 - ANZAC Day - Eagles v Central POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

[Booney]

I have to agree with some of the posters regarding crap attendences for Central and the wiggles. If they haven`t built up decent crowd bases by now they never will!

What sometimes i think is forgetton when it comes to Central following is that generally away attendances wont be huge, you have to remember for a majority of Central supporters who live in the Northern suburbs away trips are generally at least 30 minutes away and at times as far as an 1 hour plus to say Noarlunga, then take into account alot of Dogs supporters are also from the barossa and your looking at fairly big travelling distances.
This also takes its toll on Central home games when away supporters are expected to generally travel 30 minutes plus to watch their side in games they generally have loss.
The supporters and interest are there as proven by the fact you can get 35K + to GF's involving the Dogs its just getting them there every week thats the issue.

A full 30 minutes away? WOW!

Mate, anyone who lives in Adelaide can never, ever use traffic or travel distance as any type of excuse. Heading to play South away merely means leaving 30 whole minutes earlier than it would if you were playing West, Sturt or Glenelg away. With the express way Alberton is about 20 minutes from Elizabeth.

It isnt the travel that keeps people away from Elizabeth at Doggies home games. Be it warranted or otherwise it is the reputation Elizabeth has built up over the years. Not the travel time.

If it was played at Adelaide Oval we would have got 35K there. Well thats what the Power keeps wanting us to believe.

You honestly dont think there is people that would rather travel 5 minutes up the road than drive 35-45 minutes down main north road or south road or through the city to spend there saturday arvo.

Not sure what point 1 has to do with anything.

Shit supporters if that is the way they think. I guess you'll be able to judge that better than me though.

[whufc]

Heres a quote from Adelaide coach Sanderson from Adelaidenow.

``Brad Symes could have been an emergency for us if he hadn't played (for Central on Wednesday).'' Crows coach Brenton Sanderson weighs into the AFL reserves debate.

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, at some point you must have given him on the OK to play for Central. If you wanted him as an emergency that bad why not hold him back.

Sanderson is very much pro a crows and powere reserves side judging by a few of his quotes and thoughts since coming into the Crows.

[whufc]

Booney,

It has alot to do with the double standards shown by yourself on here, you have been rattling on so much about how the Power need to move to AO and it will increase there crowd attendances etc etc. Yet when Central fans suggest location may have played a part in crowd attendances you rattle on how its rubbish and their terrible fans etc etc. What way is it mate?

[Booney]

Booney,

It has alot to do with the double standards shown by yourself on here, you have been rattling on so much about how the Power need to move to AO and it will increase there crowd attendances etc etc. Yet when Central fans suggest location may have played a part in crowd attendances you rattle on how its rubbish and their terrible fans etc etc. What way is it mate?

Show me where I have said we "need to move" to Adelaide Oval. I haven't.

I'm against the AO Redevelopment ( albeit very good for the company I work for ) in principal. Double standards?

EDIT -

I argued with Royal City/UK Fan etc etc about the finances of the PAFC and how the AFL/SANFL/AO Redevelopment will impact upon this, I can understand if your memory recalls this as me saying it is a must and the saving grace. I didn't.

Initially I was behind the redevelopment, then when costings were shown as to the level of investment the state was putting into it, I was not.

Personally, I'd travel ( and have ) nearly anywhere to see my team play.

[whufc]

Booney,

It has alot to do with the double standards shown by yourself on here, you have been rattling on so much about how the Power need to move to AO and it will increase there crowd attendances etc etc. Yet when Central fans suggest location may have played a part in crowd attendances you rattle on how its rubbish and their terrible fans etc etc. What way is it mate?

Show me where I have said we "need to move" to Adelaide Oval. I haven't.

I'm against the AO Redevelopment ( albeit very good for the company I work for ) in principal. Double standards?

EDIT -

I argued with Royal City/UK Fan etc etc about the finances of the PAFC and how the AFL/SANFL/AO Redevelopment will impact upon this, I can understand if your memory recalls this as me saying it is a must and the saving grace. I didn't.

Initially I was behind the redevelopment, then when costings were shown as to the level of investment the state was putting into it, I was not.

Personally, I'd travel ( and have ) nearly anywhere to see my team play.

Your first post here viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32643&hilit=adelaide+oval

Your open to the idea it may increase crowds, you say it may even intice more nuetrals to go to the game.

Yet holy smoke a Central fans suggests if the game was played elsewhere it may have gotten a big crowd and we are shit fans etc etc.

In the Melbourne vs Port Adelaide game thread which was played at AO you estimate a much larger crowd same story again.

Your open to the idea if Port move closer to the city they may improve crowds yet being alot further out of the city doesnt affect Centrals crowds.

[Booney]

I said it may increase crowds, I agree. I said it may draw more neutrals, I agree.

What this has to do with Central fans not travelling "for 30 minutes or more", ****** if I know.

[whufc]

I said it may increase crowds, I agree. I said it may draw more neutrals, I agree.

What this has to do with Central fans not travelling "for 30 minutes or more", ****** if I know.

So your happy to admit in Ports case 'location' may be used as a legitimate attribute to crowd attendances yet in Centrals case 'location' is a lame excuse used by shit supporters.

So do you accept location as being as factor in crowd attendances or is it only certain clubs who are allowed to play the 'location' card while other just have rubbish supporters?

[Booney]

I said it may increase crowds, I agree. I said it may draw more neutrals, I agree.

What this has to do with Central fans not travelling "for 30 minutes or more", ****** if I know.

So your happy to admit in Ports case 'location' may be used as a legitimate attribute to crowd attendances yet in Centrals case 'location' is a lame excuse used by shit supporters.

This all began because you felt Central supporters dont attend "away" games as much as home games because of the travel factor associated, assuming all Central fans live North of Gepps Cross. I find that hard to believe, 30 minutes travel isn't a hell of alot.

If Central fans didn't go to Woodville because it was too far away, so be it. The whole AFL at AO debate it a different one altogther IMO, obviously not yours.

If you wish to continue to go around in circles, whirl away.

[whufc]

If you cant see the contradiction i cant help you!

[Booney]

Ground location, like AO or Woodville Oval remains constant.

How long one takes to get there is individual, correct?

[whufc]

Ground location, like AO or Woodville Oval remains constant.

How long one takes to get there is individual, correct?

Why do you think Port 'may' get larger crowds at AO? Are these reasons not the same that may apply for supporters from other clubs and grounds they may go to.

I have no problem with whether you think it affects crowds or not i just laugh at the fact you think the Power may get larger crowds by playing at a different 'location' yet it is inconcievable to think 'location' may play a factor in games Central play.

Pretty simple hey!

[gossipgirl]

Ground location, like AO or Woodville Oval remains constant.

How long one takes to get there is individual, correct?

Why do you think Port 'may' get larger crowds at AO? Are these reasons not the same that may apply for supporters from other clubs and grounds they may go to.

I have no problem with whether you think it affects crowds or not i just laugh at the fact you think the Power may get larger crowds by playing at a different 'location' yet it is inconcievable to think 'location' may play a factor in games Central play.

Pretty simple hey!

I guess the evidence indicates that no matter where Centrals plays their crowds are poor

[Booney]

Ground location, like AO or Woodville Oval remains constant.

How long one takes to get there is individual, correct?

Why do you think Port 'may' get larger crowds at AO? Are these reasons not the same that may apply for supporters from other clubs and grounds they may go to.

I have no problem with whether you think it affects crowds or not i just laugh at the fact you think the Power may get larger crowds by playing at a different 'location' yet it is inconcievable to think 'location' may play a factor in games Central play.

Pretty simple hey!

You based your opening on travel times. 30 minutes or more for Central fans to go to away games, not where the ground is located, but how long it takes you to get there.

Do you all live at Elizabeth then?

[whufc]

i think it would be fair to say a very high percentage would live north of salisbury. you also realise if the game was played at ao 21k saca members would have got in for free and been able to watch from the comforts of their own members stand

[whufc]

to say distance has zero impact on whether people will or do attend games is ridiculous

[StrayDog]

You based your opening on travel times. 30 minutes or more for Central fans to go to away games, not where the ground is located, but how long it takes you to get there.

Do you all live at Elizabeth then?

A theoretical "centre of gravity" of the supporter base wouldn't be far away. 30 to 35 minutes wouldn't be a bad guess at an average travel time to away grounds.

I'd guess my travel time would be 5 to 10 minutes more than the "average". From out my way, personally, to Alberton about 35 minutes via the Port River Expressway. Glenelg about an hour via Tapleys Hill Road. Do your own maths for Noarlunga.

[udogs01]

CROWD: 4,054*

That is terrible.

* The best crowd at Woodville since 2000, the best crowd between these 2 clubs at this venue, ever.

That is even worse.

5551 Norwood v Glenelg at the parade on a friday night, perfect weather conditions, top of the table clash.


SHOCKING