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Changes of interpretations to some SANFL rules in 2011

Postby Big Phil » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:17 pm

There has been a bit of discussion scattered throughout the threads about the standard of umpiring so far in Round 1.

This might have something to do with it and will make for some interesting discussions and conjecture throughout the year:

SANFL Press Release wrote:
There have been some minor changes to the SANFL interpretations and laws for the 2011 season. Please see below.

1. HOLDING THE BALL:

2011: If a player doesn’t make a genuine attempt to either dispose of the ball or knock the ball on when legally tackled, the umpire will delay his whistle and if the ball does not come out, penalise the player for holding the ball.

2010: The umpire was more lenient with the player who made no genuine attempt, causing a ball-up.



2. DELIBERATE OUT-OF-BOUNDS:

2011: If a player’s intent is to go towards the boundary line with force and under no pressure, the field umpire will pay deliberate out-of-bounds.

2010: The interpretation was if a player made ground in his direction of goal, then the umpire would give the player the benefit of the doubt and a throw-in would occur.



3. DEMONSTRATIVE ABUSE TOWARDS UMPIRES:

2011: If a player is abusive or demonstrative towards an umpire, the player will be penalised either with a free kick or a 25m penalty.

2010: The umpire was more lenient in accepting demonstrative action from players.



4.THE ADVANTAGE PLAY: (New law in line with AFL’s requirements for State Leagues.)

2011: The player is now given the responsibility to play the ball to advantage. The umpire will no longer call the ball to advantage until the player with the ball has had an opportunity to dispose of the ball.

2010: It was the umpire’s responsibility to call the ball to advantage. If there was no advantage, the umpire would stop the play and reset the play with the free kick being awarded.


These interpretations have been introduced to keep the ball in motion and in play for the benefit of the style of game.
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Re: Changes of interpertations to some SANFL rules in 2011

Postby pipers » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:21 pm

Well, seeing as they haven't changed the interpretations of an open palm to the face being a free, or dropping the ball after one grab not-constituting a mark then the blokes at footy park today had a bad day out...
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Re: Changes of interpertations to some SANFL rules in 2011

Postby JK » Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:06 am

pipers wrote:Well, seeing as they haven't changed the interpretations of an open palm to the face being a free, or dropping the ball after one grab not-constituting a mark then the blokes at footy park today had a bad day out...


LMAO .. I know, after everything else I couldn't believe you didnt have that going for you
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Re: Changes of interpertations to some SANFL rules in 2011

Postby Big Phil » Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:27 am

I think fans might want to take a good look at these changes to interpertations for certain rules as I can see (plenty of examples tonight) of fans getting frustrated and critical if umpires for making what is now the 'correct' call.

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Re: Changes of interpertations to some SANFL rules in 2011

Postby Big Phil » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:57 am

Bit of a BUMP for this thread because I'm noticing people are still getting frustrated (on here and at the games themselves) at the umpiring.
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Re: Changes of interpertations to some SANFL rules in 2011

Postby gadj1976 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:00 am

How about the SANFL adopt the "common sense" policy?

These interpretations are greying the rules themselves and causing more frustration. Stick to what holding the ball (and all other rules) were and cut the grey areas out.

Oh yeh, that's right, common sense isn't that common.
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Re: Changes of interpertations to some SANFL rules in 2011

Postby HOORAY PUNT » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:06 am

gadj1976 wrote:How about the SANFL adopt the "common sense" policy?

These interpretations are greying the rules themselves and causing more frustration. Stick to what holding the ball (and all other rules) were and cut the grey areas out.

Oh yeh, that's right, common sense isn't that common.


Thats right and which is what I was referring to in another thread. The rules are messed around with all the time , just leave them alone .The holding the ball is a great example , a bloke who goes and gets the ball and is tackled and a pack form and basically sits on him and he has no chance to get rid of it should not be holding the ball. A bloke who gets it has time to dispose and is tackled with one arm pinned and cannot dispose of it ....holding the ball. Thats what causes the frustration.
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Re: Changes of interpertations to some SANFL rules in 2011

Postby nwdfanparade » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:53 am

In the game against PAM and last night against Glg, an opposition player came in (deliberate) contact with a Nwd player standing the mark (while an opposition player was about to take a kick). Both occasions the ump did nothing. I thought there was a rule against this but I can't find it on my pdf copy of the AFL 2011 rules? Can someone help me out.
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Re: Changes of interpertations to some SANFL rules in 2011

Postby Hopeful Jelly » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:55 am

HOORAY PUNT wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:How about the SANFL adopt the "common sense" policy?

These interpretations are greying the rules themselves and causing more frustration. Stick to what holding the ball (and all other rules) were and cut the grey areas out.

Oh yeh, that's right, common sense isn't that common.


Thats right and which is what I was referring to in another thread. The rules are messed around with all the time , just leave them alone .The holding the ball is a great example , a bloke who goes and gets the ball and is tackled and a pack form and basically sits on him and he has no chance to get rid of it should not be holding the ball. A bloke who gets it has time to dispose and is tackled with one arm pinned and cannot dispose of it ....holding the ball. Thats what causes the frustration.


Yes it seems like you are now more likely to have a free kick paid against you if you get the ball and a pack forms on top of you than if you get tackled and the ball comes loose as a result of being slung around in the tackle or just dropping the ball.

Definitely pay a free kick if no attempt is made when the ball could come out from a pack, but it just seems that there is still a bit too much guessing by the umpires in these circumstances when they aren't in the best position.
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Re: Changes of interpertations to some SANFL rules in 2011

Postby Hopeful Jelly » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:00 pm

nwdfanparade wrote:In the game against PAM and last night against Glg, an opposition player came in (deliberate) contact with a Nwd player standing the mark (while an opposition player was about to take a kick). Both occasions the ump did nothing. I thought there was a rule against this but I can't find it on my pdf copy of the AFL 2011 rules? Can someone help me out.

My understanding is that all players have to be 5 metres from the kicker and player standing the mark (but it doesn't seem to be enforced too much unless a player is kicking for goal). As soon as play on is called, then another player can come in to shepherd the player standing the mark as per during normal play.

In the past I have seen the umpire make the player take the kick again in the scenario you suggest, but it is a rarity.
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